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Reply #15 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:37pm

Templeton wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

Abbott will dump the carbon tax and the cheering from Australians will be heard around the world.

Abbott will not introduce any of his carbon reduction measures. He will defer any action until Canada, Japan, China, Brazil, USA, South East Asia, Africa (particularly South Africa), the Middle East and South American countries (particular power house Brazil) agree to do anything. Which at the moment they are doing nothing.
Abbott will cite the collapse of the EU trading scheme price and the fact those Euro countries are now exporting their manufacturing jobs to China and India because of ETS imposts.

Abbott will set up an IR productivity enquiry. It will focus on the workings of the draconian changes instigated by unions' wish lists of demands and dutifully implemented by Gillard. The findings will result in the dismantling of the union run Fair Work Australia. The ABCC will be re-established to belt the bejesus out of the militant union thugs and again kick their sorry arses off the building sites. Productivity will rise and worker employee relationships will again thrive. The pointless us and them mentality encouraged by the unions will fade away again.

Abbott will abandon the wasteful green schemes saving tax payers billions. The wailing of Bob Brown and the greens will be heard around the world. Suck it up idiots.

Abbott will call a double dissolution and the Greens will be decimated.

Abbott will reopen Nauru, reintroduce temporary protection visas and turn the boats back.

Abbott will repair relations with Indonesia caused by stupid Gillard and the live cattle trade debacle.

Abbott will restore Australia's finances and begin to pay off yet another Labor debt legacy.

You seam pretty sure you know what Abbott will do....Are you Tony Abbott???

I agree Abbott will do nothing to reduce Australia's carbon output and to tell you truth I would prefer that to his direct action policy which will cost billions and is the most expensive way to reduce emissions.....It will also cost the budget billions once he scraps the carbon tax!!!

Jobs are going off shore because of the high Australian dollar and high manufacturing costs which have nothing to do with the carbon tax or an ETS but you would either know that you are a liar or you are stupid!!!

I agree Abbott will probably bring in an industrial relations policy but I doubt it will be as ruthless as work choices and will have a no disadvantage test this time one would think!!!

I agree he will try to destroy the unions reducing wages and conditions for Australian workers and cause industrial action in the process!!!

Abbott will try to reopen Nauru but might find it difficult and Indonesia have already said the WILL NOT accept any boats turned back from Australia so relations will not improve and will in fact get worse as Abbott will also cut foreign aid to Indonesia as he has already stated!!!

He will dump the NBN.....Something Australia needs and should have to provide revenue for the future!!!

He will dump the mining tax.....Something Australia needs and should have to provide revenue for the future!!!

He will introduce an inequitable paid maternity leave scheme that will cost business billions and then when the budget returns to surplus taxpayers will be paying for it!!!

He will reinstate the health care bonus which will cost the budget billions!!!

He will provide high end tax cuts without raising taxes that will cost the budget billions!!!

How will Abbott pay for all his promises and keep taxes down whilst paying off debt.....He is either a bullshit artist or a liar.....My guess is he is both!!!

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Re: What will Abbott do???
Reply #16 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:40pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:32pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:35pm:

You don't need so many lines to answer a simple question.

He will cut everything, including taxes for high income earners.

Which are far too high

Yes they could be lower if we didn't need to collect them and then give a portion back to people who don't need it.

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If we want lower taxes we're going to have to dump the middle and upper-class welfare.

HERE'S something I think we can all agree on (but for different reasons): rich people shouldn't get government assistance. For the bleeding-heart lefties out there, this notion probably appeals in a fairness sense and means more money to splash on the truly needy. For liberals (small-''l'', anyway) and economic rationalists it appeals to their desire to minimise the government's intrusion into the economy. After all, every dollar less spent is a dollar less that has to be raised in taxes.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/you-cant-have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too-20...

Perhaps you will familarize yourself with the article.
Not that you should have to, its pretty basic stuff and you are supposed to be an accountant

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Re: What will Abbott do???
Reply #17 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:42pm

cods wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:28pm:

how about we ask WHAT WILL RUDDS Policies be???

LOL

as it seems imminent that he could be PM next week I would think what he would do is far more important than what abbott may or may not do..

as it is... just about everything this govt has touched has turned to porridge...so maybe by the time Abbott gets in none of phils forecasts will be anything to worry about..

as they will all have folded under their own..deluge of mismanagement and ineptness or just plain run out of money...

I am not surprised you do not want to debate what Tony Abbott will do Cods....even you know his policies are crap and populist bullshit don't you.....The so called forecasts I posted are taken from the Abbott's own promises so what is not true about what I posted???

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Re: What will Abbott do???
Reply #18 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:48pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 6:26pm:

Clanky wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 5:34pm:

You forgot to add Workchoices.
Once the Libs are back in, and at this rate, with Labor infighting and 95% of Australian media owned by regressive right wingers... they will get in.

Number 1 priority will be to implement WorkChoices. This time it will probably be more extreme (as a sort of revenge against the Australian people).

I imagine minimum wage will be lowered, Holiday pay, overtime and Sunday loadings will go. Holidays will be reduced or removed altogether. In America, the normal is 2 weeks a year if you are lucky. Hours work will be increased, whereas overall pay will be lowered.

Tax on the lower income earners will be increased, whereas millionaires will get a tax cut.

This is where Australia is headed. It's a race to the bottom.

you are an idiot. no other commentary is needed.

Loser...

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Reply #20 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:53pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 6:26pm:

Clanky wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 5:34pm:

You forgot to add Workchoices.
Once the Libs are back in, and at this rate, with Labor infighting and 95% of Australian media owned by regressive right wingers... they will get in.

Number 1 priority will be to implement WorkChoices. This time it will probably be more extreme (as a sort of revenge against the Australian people).

I imagine minimum wage will be lowered, Holiday pay, overtime and Sunday loadings will go. Holidays will be reduced or removed altogether. In America, the normal is 2 weeks a year if you are lucky. Hours work will be increased, whereas overall pay will be lowered.

Tax on the lower income earners will be increased, whereas millionaires will get a tax cut.

This is where Australia is headed. It's a race to the bottom.

you are an idiot. no other commentary is needed.

Poor form but something I have come to expect from you Longy.....Nice way to treat a new member when you have nothing to refute his argument.....That is why you where such a crap moderator!!!

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Reply #21 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:56pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:53pm:

The Labour Party is just as full of nutjobs as the Coalition, only the Greens make them look good by comparison, but that is probably the whole point of this corrupt political charade. The Ausrtralian people need to see this corrupt corporate political class for the one Red Communist wealthfare entity it is. Cool

It is the Labor party in Australia.....Take a look at yourself if you can stand the sight!!!

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Re: What will Abbott do???
Reply #22 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:05pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:56pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:53pm:

The Labour Party is just as full of nutjobs as the Coalition, only the Greens make them look good by comparison, but that is probably the whole point of this corrupt political charade. The Ausrtralian people need to see this corrupt corporate political class for the one Red Communist wealthfare entity it is. Cool

It is the Labor party in Australia.....Take a look at yourself if you can stand the sight!!!

Idleness and lack of occupation tend - nay are dragged - towards evil.
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Aye - that would be the Corporate welfare Red Communist class who expect us to slave for their welfare...." and nothing for us...:rseholes like Gillard, Rudd, Brown, Abbott, Turnbull and the rest - our very own Khmer Rouge...

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Re: What will Abbott do???
Reply #23 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:09pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:56pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:53pm:

The Labour Party is just as full of nutjobs as the Coalition, only the Greens make them look good by comparison, but that is probably the whole point of this corrupt political charade. The Ausrtralian people need to see this corrupt corporate political class for the one Red Communist wealthfare entity it is. Cool

It is the Labor party in Australia.....Take a look at yourself if you can stand the sight!!!

Idleness and lack of occupation tend - nay are dragged - towards evil.
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Re: What will Abbott do???
Reply #24 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:10pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:05pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:56pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:53pm:

The Labour Party is just as full of nutjobs as the Coalition, only the Greens make them look good by comparison, but that is probably the whole point of this corrupt political charade. The Ausrtralian people need to see this corrupt corporate political class for the one Red Communist wealthfare entity it is. Cool

It is the Labor party in Australia.....Take a look at yourself if you can stand the sight!!!

Idleness and lack of occupation tend - nay are dragged - towards evil.
Hippocrates (460 BC - 377 BC), Decorum

Aye - that would be the Corporate welfare Red Communist class who expect us to slave for their welfare...." and nothing for us...:rseholes like Gillard, Rudd, Brown, Abbott, Turnbull and the rest - our very own Khmer Rouge...

Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.
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This is not one of those moments!!!

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Re: What will Abbott do???
Reply #25 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:10pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:56pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:53pm:

The Labour Party is just as full of nutjobs as the Coalition, only the Greens make them look good by comparison, but that is probably the whole point of this corrupt political charade. The Ausrtralian people need to see this corrupt corporate political class for the one Red Communist wealthfare entity it is. Cool

It is the Labor party in Australia.....Take a look at yourself if you can stand the sight!!!

Idleness and lack of occupation tend - nay are dragged - towards evil.
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Australia follows the British-English spelling system.

Where did they lose the "U"???

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: What will Abbott do??? Reply #26 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:11pm I do think the tax system needs overhauling. I found so many loopholes in it from my experience, it was like swiss cheese!
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Reply #27 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:15pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:11pm:

I do think the tax system needs overhauling.

I found so many loopholes in it from my experience, it was like swiss cheese!

I agree....however if Tony Abbott becomes PM you can guarantee they will become holes big enough to drive a truck through.....The economy cannot afford Tony Abbott!!!

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Reply #28 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:19pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:15pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:11pm:

I do think the tax system needs overhauling.

I found so many loopholes in it from my experience, it was like swiss cheese!

I agree....however if Tony Abbott becomes PM you can guarantee they will become holes big enough to drive a truck through.....The economy cannot afford Tony Abbott!!!

I think you are over-playing the hand of the PM there Phil.
The tax system/structure is decided over a long period of time in reviews and tax workbooks.

Look how long the Henry Review took and in the end the Labor Government totally copped out and implemented less than 5% of it.

The civil servants decide the tax system - the PM makes some noise and thats about it.

I spent a fair time looking through the system from an FBT, tax offset, credit allowances and rebates scenario and there are still loads of avenues if you are resolute enough and have the good sense to think ahead.

I think I paid something like 6% in the end in AUS?

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Reply #29 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:21pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:10pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:56pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:53pm:

The Labour Party is just as full of nutjobs as the Coalition, only the Greens make them look good by comparison, but that is probably the whole point of this corrupt political charade. The Ausrtralian people need to see this corrupt corporate political class for the one Red Communist wealthfare entity it is. Cool

It is the Labor party in Australia.....Take a look at yourself if you can stand the sight!!!

Idleness and lack of occupation tend - nay are dragged - towards evil.
Hippocrates (460 BC - 377 BC), Decorum

Australia follows the British-English spelling system.

Where did they lose the "U"???

When we decided the POMS where a bunch of self serving assholes and we wanted to differentiate ourselves from their brand of exploitation.....That's what happens when you conquer a bunch of countries and make them British subjects Andre.....The chickens come home to roost!!!

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