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Re: Some want Rudd back as PM - I certainly don't!!!
Reply #30 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:18am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Not hard to do when the previous President was an unsuccessful peacenik in a militaristic society.

True but this was in 1984 when Reagan was running on his own record of achievement.
Makes the result that more impressive.

Never mind the Iran-Contra affair... And his covert dealings with Iran to destabilise Carter's campaign for a second term... Echoes of Nixon and his promises of "peace" with the North Vietnamese.

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Reply #31 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:19am

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Some want Abbott as PM. I certainly don't either. In any case thank goodness, for the Australian Greens. Of which who ever wins in 2013, will have to negotiate with them.

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Are you clairvoyant or something?

How can you judge Abbott when he has not yet shown what he can do or will?

At the moment, Abbott and Co are simply doing what the country pays them to do - watch the government and reveal how this government is running us into the ground with a deficit that will bite into the earnings of our great grandchildren.

You might be in a good position in the government's employ BUT remember, this governmnt is sucking dry the taxpayers and one day, that'll come to a full stop.

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Re: Some want Rudd back as PM - I certainly don't!!!
Reply #32 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:20am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:18am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Not hard to do when the previous President was an unsuccessful peacenik in a militaristic society.

True but this was in 1984 when Reagan was running on his own record of achievement.
Makes the result that more impressive.

Never mind the Iran-Contra affair... And his covert dealings with Iran to destabilise Carter's campaign for a second term... Echoes of Nixon and his promises of "peace" with the North Vietnamese.

You'll struggle to blot Reagan's name with the American people.
The man has mythical status for what he achieved and for his defeating of Communism.

You know what - given the choice between living in America under Reagan and living now under this idiot in the White House - you ask everyday Americans what they would prefer?
I could guess at the answer.....

1980 - 1988 in America was an infinitely better place and society than it is now.
Reagan can take a lot of that credit.

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Re: Some want Rudd back as PM - I certainly don't!!!
Reply #33 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:21am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:14am:

Anyway I digress - my point goes back to Rudd.

People when under the leadership of poor, out of touch weak leaders revert to wanting to be back under when times were better.

This is true for Australia now and for the US.

Times ain't all that bad here... Nothing like what's happening in the US... Having been sucked into the maelstrom of its own greed, and dragging most of the west with it.

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Reply #34 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:22am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:21am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:14am:

Anyway I digress - my point goes back to Rudd.

People when under the leadership of poor, out of touch weak leaders revert to wanting to be back under when times were better.

This is true for Australia now and for the US.

Times ain't all that bad here... Nothing like what's happening in the US... Having been sucked into the maelstrom of its own greed, and dragging most of the west with it.

Have you seen the responses of the Australians asked on their views on the economy and the performance of the current Australian Government??

They don't seem to share your view for the most part.

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Reply #35 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:24am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:18am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Not hard to do when the previous President was an unsuccessful peacenik in a militaristic society.

True but this was in 1984 when Reagan was running on his own record of achievement.
Makes the result that more impressive.

Never mind the Iran-Contra affair... And his covert dealings with Iran to destabilise Carter's campaign for a second term... Echoes of Nixon and his promises of "peace" with the North Vietnamese.

You'll struggle to blot Reagan's name with the American people.
The man has mythical status for what he achieved and for his defeating of Communism.

You know what - given the choice between living in America under Reagan and living now under this idiot in the White House - you ask everyday Americans what they would prefer?
I could guess at the answer.....

1980 - 1988 in America was an infinitely better place and society than it is now.
Reagan can take a lot of that credit.

Well, of course they would (that's as far back as most can remember).

Look at the mess they've made of their society... And their nostalgic "good times" were characterised by what? Wall Street greed! Somewhat Jungian that they should be haunted again by (and hanker for) their innate dark side barely 2 decades later.

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Re: Some want Rudd back as PM - I certainly don't!!!
Reply #36 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:26am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:42am:

Rudd is a tantrum-throwing pansy.

Who can work with him?

I'm bemused as to how he could still figure as a popular choice for PM.

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Maybe Rudd(like Faust) made a deal with the devil and now is in possession of the magic wand -

one that will put the cancerous deficit into remission..

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Reply #37 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:26am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:22am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:21am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:14am:

Anyway I digress - my point goes back to Rudd.

People when under the leadership of poor, out of touch weak leaders revert to wanting to be back under when times were better.

This is true for Australia now and for the US.

Times ain't all that bad here... Nothing like what's happening in the US... Having been sucked into the maelstrom of its own greed, and dragging most of the west with it.

Have you seen the responses of the Australians asked on their views on the economy and the performance of the current Australian Government??

They don't seem to share your view for the most part.

Guess I'm lucky to be living way out west where the rain don't fall where they drill for gas and dig for red oil... Grin

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Re: Some want Rudd back as PM - I certainly don't!!!
Reply #38 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:27am

It's not greed.

It's success.

My aims in my career are to get as high as I can, hold as much power as I can and earn as much money as possible.

That's society, that's capitalism.
That's just how it is.

if people don;t like that they can go live in Albania and plant potatoes with an ox or something.

Come on, there was nothing wrong with the success of America and the society of the 1980s was an open, better society than now.

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Reply #39 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:29am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:27am:

It's not greed.

It's success.

My aims in my career are to get as high as I can, hold as much power as I can and earn as much money as possible.

That's society, that's capitalism.
That's just how it is.

keep thinking that... And get in early to be part of the 2025 meltdown...

Start listening to those 3:00AM voices... Wink

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Reply #40 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:33am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 9:35pm:

Watch this petulant, expletive-ridden tirade by one of the most incompetent and controlling PM's we've ever had. I sure don't want an idiot who behaves like such a child to be my PM. Do you???

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/swearing-kevin-rudd-video-posted-on-you-tu...

The only way Rudd could get in good with the electorate is to postpone the carbon tax but that would displease Bob Brown*urd.

However, Bobby won't take his bat and go home because he knows that an election would end his traitorous intent.

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