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Reply #15 - Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:50pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:24pm:

How many threads do we need on this rumour???

I lost interest after we where told it would happen before Christmas!!!

The righty wankfest is a moveable feast.

It will definitely happen in October 2011.

They gave us a cast iron guarantee. We waited with bated breath (well, OK, more like scornful derision). And what happened.

NOTHING!!

Did they forget to carry the one?? Or maybe it was a Tony guarantee... y'know dead, buried, cremated. Just not in writing. Certainly not a core promise.

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Reply #16 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:54am

Gist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:50pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:24pm:

How many threads do we need on this rumour???

I lost interest after we where told it would happen before Christmas!!!

The righty wankfest is a moveable feast.

It will definitely happen in October 2011.

They gave us a cast iron guarantee. We waited with bated breath (well, OK, more like scornful derision). And what happened.

NOTHING!!

Did they forget to carry the one?? Or maybe it was a Tony guarantee... y'know dead, buried, cremated. Just not in writing. Certainly not a core promise.

its looking pretty much like it wil happen now. what exactly is your beef anyhow? predicting anything in the political spehere is diffcult. it doesnt meant that the prediction was wrong just because ti didnt happen the month originally expected.

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Re: Labor Leadership Challenge Looms ever closer
Reply #17 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 12:25pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:54am:

Gist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:50pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:24pm:

How many threads do we need on this rumour???

I lost interest after we where told it would happen before Christmas!!!

The righty wankfest is a moveable feast.

It will definitely happen in October 2011.

They gave us a cast iron guarantee. We waited with bated breath (well, OK, more like scornful derision). And what happened.

NOTHING!!

Did they forget to carry the one?? Or maybe it was a Tony guarantee... y'know dead, buried, cremated. Just not in writing. Certainly not a core promise.

its looking pretty much like it wil happen now. what exactly is your beef anyhow? predicting anything in the political spehere is diffcult. it doesnt meant that the prediction was wrong just because ti didnt happen the month originally expected.

Hard? No, it's dead easy when you lot come out 6 times a day every day for years predicting a challenge. I count 6 threads on this topic on the front page right now. And that's just today!

One day of course you'll be right, there will be a challenge by someone on Gillard and she'll lose the leadership. Then you lot will probably come out and try to tell us what geniuses you all are because you got it right.

Once.

I guess we're supposed to forget about the 3,417 times you've got it wrong to date (so far).

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Re: Labor Leadership Challenge Looms ever closer
Reply #18 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 12:30pm

Gist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:50pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:24pm:

How many threads do we need on this rumour???

I lost interest after we where told it would happen before Christmas!!!

The righty wankfest is a moveable feast.

It will definitely happen in October 2011.

They gave us a cast iron guarantee. We waited with bated breath (well, OK, more like scornful derision). And what happened.

NOTHING!!

Did they forget to carry the one?? Or maybe it was a Tony guarantee... y'know dead, buried, cremated. Just not in writing. Certainly not a core promise.

They are covering up the anti-NBN-case disgrace!

END OF STORY!!

Oh, and their associated inability to understand the basics of econonomic concepts such as PRODUCTIVITY!

Grin

TRUE STORY BTW!! Roll Eyes

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Re: Labor Leadership Challenge Looms ever closer
Reply #19 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 12:42pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 12:30pm:

Gist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:50pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:24pm:

How many threads do we need on this rumour???

I lost interest after we where told it would happen before Christmas!!!

The righty wankfest is a moveable feast.

It will definitely happen in October 2011.

They gave us a cast iron guarantee. We waited with bated breath (well, OK, more like scornful derision). And what happened.

NOTHING!!

Did they forget to carry the one?? Or maybe it was a Tony guarantee... y'know dead, buried, cremated. Just not in writing. Certainly not a core promise.

They are covering up the anti-NBN-case disgrace!

END OF STORY!!

Oh, and their associated inability to understand the basics of econonomic concepts such as PRODUCTIVITY!

Grin

TRUE STORY BTW!! Roll Eyes

I know its been said before but

You really are as mad as a hatter
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Reply #20 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 12:45pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:54am:

Gist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:50pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:24pm:

How many threads do we need on this rumour???

I lost interest after we where told it would happen before Christmas!!!

The righty wankfest is a moveable feast.

It will definitely happen in October 2011.

They gave us a cast iron guarantee. We waited with bated breath (well, OK, more like scornful derision). And what happened.

NOTHING!!

Did they forget to carry the one?? Or maybe it was a Tony guarantee... y'know dead, buried, cremated. Just not in writing. Certainly not a core promise.

its looking pretty much like it wil happen now. what exactly is your beef anyhow? predicting anything in the political spehere is diffcult. it doesnt meant that the prediction was wrong just because ti didnt happen the month originally expected.

WOW ,you claim his prediction is wrong, you have been saying for over a year it will never happen, goes to show how inept your radar is.

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Re: Labor Leadership Challenge Looms ever closer
Reply #21 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 3:31pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 9:24am:

The battle lines are being drawn as reports emerged that senior Labor MPs were warning Kevin Rudd supporters to back embattled Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

Speculation has mounted that senior MPs were trying to shore up support for Ms Gillard, as the nervous wait continues to find out just what Mr Rudd will do.

An MP speaking to a News Limited newspaper revealed that MPs were now being openly canvassed.

"A lot of people have definitely been deployed to start speaking to the troops on behalf of the PM. There were conversations happening all over Parliament House," the MP said.

Mr Rudd has consistently been ahead of Ms Gillard in preferred Prime Minister polls, and some within the Labor party believe a change back to the former leader is the only way to turn around a government under huge pressure.

One MP told Fairfax they had to kill off any potential challenge now before it was too late.

"I don't want them to be under any illusion about how bad it was and how bad it will be," the minister said anonymously.

"If we don't start doing this, it will get a bigger head of steam than it already has."

One of the most vocal supporters for Ms Gillard, Attorney General Nicola Roxon, has warned returning to Mr Rudd would be a disaster for the party.

"Nicola was telling anyone who would listen that Rudd would be a disaster," one MP told News Limited. "It seemed to me that panic has set in, and they know Gillard is in trouble."
However it is believed that even if Mr Rudd challenged, he wouldn't have the numbers to regain the Prime Ministership.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/12945325/giilard-canvasses-numbers-as-showdown-looms

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We are no better off which one of these two bast*ads gets the seat.

Neither will change their policies, policies that have got them into this mess. I doubt that neither knows the score and, even if they knew, they have two things in common - unrelenting ambition and stubbornness.

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Reply #22 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 3:58pm

Gist wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:54am:

Gist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:50pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:24pm:

How many threads do we need on this rumour???

I lost interest after we where told it would happen before Christmas!!!

The righty wankfest is a moveable feast.

It will definitely happen in October 2011.

They gave us a cast iron guarantee. We waited with bated breath (well, OK, more like scornful derision). And what happened.

NOTHING!!

Did they forget to carry the one?? Or maybe it was a Tony guarantee... y'know dead, buried, cremated. Just not in writing. Certainly not a core promise.

its looking pretty much like it wil happen now. what exactly is your beef anyhow? predicting anything in the political spehere is diffcult. it doesnt meant that the prediction was wrong just because ti didnt happen the month originally expected.

Hard? No, it's dead easy when you lot come out 6 times a day every day for years predicting a challenge. I count 6 threads on this topic on the front page right now. And that's just today!

One day of course you'll be right, there will be a challenge by someone on Gillard and she'll lose the leadership. Then you lot will probably come out and try to tell us what geniuses you all are because you got it right.

Once.

I guess we're supposed to forget about the 3,417 times you've got it wrong to date (so far).

Longy has got it wrong 14 228 times so far!!!

Smiley

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Reply #23 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 4:57pm

While I hate to agree with LW and Andrei, I have to say it is looking more likely now then it ever has. With the QLD election looming, it is the perfect time for Rudd to make a move. If he was ever going to, it will be before those polls open.

And it isn't the Media and Lib rabble rousing that has convinced me either; it's the silence of most of the Labor front bench. If Gillard was as safe as has been claimed, the ones with the biggest vested interest in keeping Rudd away like Shorten and Abib would be screaming it from the rooftops that Rudd will never again be PM.

Instead, we have Tanya Plibersek on the ABC stating in political spin that she is basically on the fence. All I'm saying is, if it were EVER going to happen, it will be within the next month.

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Reply #24 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 5:01pm

GoddyofOz wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 4:57pm:

While I hate to agree with LW and Andrei, I have to say it is looking more likely now then it ever has. With the QLD election looming, it is the perfect time for Rudd to make a move. If he was ever going to, it will be before those polls open.

And it isn't the Media and Lib rabble rousing that has convinced me either; it's the silence of most of the Labor front bench. If Gillard was as safe as has been claimed, the ones with the biggest vested interest in keeping Rudd away like Shorten and Abib would be screaming it from the rooftops that Rudd will never again be PM.

Instead, we have Tanya Plibersek on the ABC stating in political spin that she is basically on the fence. All I'm saying is, if it were EVER going to happen, it will be within the next month.

Barry Cassidy doesn't usually play those political games, today he said there WILL BE A CHALLENGE tomorrow week, he doesn't usually make outrageous predictions like that unless he is pretty certain they will happen. So, I think its on, though I think Rudd will lose, THE FIRST TIME.

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warrigal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2569 australia Gender:	Re: Labor Leadership Challenge Looms ever closer Reply #25 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 5:29pm It will never happen MR K. Rudd has got it too good now as Forigin minister for Australia Maybe K. Rudd should stand for Election in Qld He will be seen a More Popular than our Anna
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Reply #26 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 5:31pm

skippy. wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 4:57pm:

While I hate to agree with LW and Andrei, I have to say it is looking more likely now then it ever has. With the QLD election looming, it is the perfect time for Rudd to make a move. If he was ever going to, it will be before those polls open.

And it isn't the Media and Lib rabble rousing that has convinced me either; it's the silence of most of the Labor front bench. If Gillard was as safe as has been claimed, the ones with the biggest vested interest in keeping Rudd away like Shorten and Abib would be screaming it from the rooftops that Rudd will never again be PM.

Instead, we have Tanya Plibersek on the ABC stating in political spin that she is basically on the fence. All I'm saying is, if it were EVER going to happen, it will be within the next month.

Barry Cassidy doesn't usually play those political games, today he said there WILL BE A CHALLENGE tomorrow week, he doesn't usually make outrageous predictions like that unless he is pretty certain they will happen. So, I think its on, though I think Rudd will lose, THE FIRST TIME.

That post of mine is actually the first time I have said I think there will be a challenge. This is because this is the first time I think there is one likely.

However I think both are on a loser.

I think Rudd will not have the numbers to get over the line.

However for Gillard, if the predicted 1/3rd of MPs don't back her, then her credibility is shot through as well.

How can you continue to lead when so many have voted for you to go??

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Reply #28 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 5:34pm

Who knows, goddy. The leader only has the job while they have the majority of supporters. The second they lose that, they've lost the leadership. That's the same on either side. So if Rudd had the numbers we wouldn't be talking about it, he would already be leader.

But all I can say is if Labor do ditch Gillard for Rudd then they'll have lost the plot completely as far as I'm concerned. We'll go back to all the reasons for changing over in the first place just when Gillard has finally finished clearing the log jam created by Rudd in the first place.

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Reply #29 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 6:00pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 7:37pm:

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Big mining, the business lobbies, News Ltd, and the ones we don't even know about. These are the forces that are driving this country, and as dark as it is, these are the forces that will determine our destiny.

Yes, I agree 100% with what you have said. Labor have botched it up. They will go, and the future will be very dim for people who don't live in Sydney's North Shore mansions.

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