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Gillard's Negotiating Skills
Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:15pm
 
Let’s take a quick flashback to August 2010 and the furious negotiations from Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott for the essential votes of the four independents and the Australian Greens, who would effectively choose which party would govern Australia. History of course, records that Julia Gillard’s negotiations were stunningly successful and she was able to form a fragile coalition government.

Many from both sides were secretly impressed with the way she managed to sway the votes of MPs whose electorates demonstrably wanted the opposite result.  Gillard was reputed to be an excellent negotiator and these skills were amply demonstrated. Now of course, we know what her secret ingredient is to successful negotiation.

LIE.

Tony Abbott never had a chance in his negotiations with the independents because, in the back of his mind, he had to consider how to keep his promises and that will always restrain an ethical negotiator. He couldn’t and wouldn’t promise more than he could deliver. Gillard however, was not at all constrained by such inconveniences.

Having already campaigned on a ‘no carbon tax’ platform, she broke her promise with the Australian electorate by secretly promising the Greens such a tax, in return for their single lower house vote and nine senators. The speed with which she did so - just days after the election - makes John Howard’s ‘non-core promise’ gaffe look like amateur hour. Gillard had quickly shown that she had NO core promises at all. Everything was negotiable, as long as honesty and integrity were to be excluded.

Andrew Wilkie was promised his no-pokies legislation and supported Labor in return. Of course, that promise was shredded, just like so many others. The Greens were promised substantial logging restrictions in Tasmania. Gillard ‘changed her mind’, presumably because there were political complications and no advantage to her.

Kevin Rudd has reason to be upset because all the time his supposedly loyal deputy was publicly declaring her unwavering support, she was going behind his back preparing to stab him. Weeks before Wilkie was shafted, Gillard phoned him to confirm her support for his legislation. There is a pattern developing here! A pattern, not just of broken promises, but blatant lies and deceit.

Gillard’s position as Prime Minister is becoming increasingly unstable, not because of her parlous polls, but because of her personal integrity and the fact that she has so little of it. No promise she makes, no commitment she enters into has any value any more. More than any Prime Minister before her, her word is worthless.

Be it the Private Health changes, the Carbon Tax or the pokies legislation, her promises are meaningless and her word not even worth repeating.

Politicians often lie. It is unfortunately sometimes part of the process. But Julia Gillard lies almost all of the time. It seems that even when she tells the truth, the only reason is that it is to her advantage.

There has never been a more self-serving, deceitful and morally-bankrupt Prime Minister than the one that currently sullies that great office. She is a disgrace and for that reason alone, the Labor party must remove her and install someone whose word might actually mean something.
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Reply #1 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:17pm
 
Howards record of being "mean and tricky" gives her a run for her money.
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Reply #2 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:23pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:17pm:
Howards record of being "mean and tricky" gives her a run for her money.


find a single things she has done that has been done from a position of principle and has cost her politically. every single action was for the purpose of supporting her political agenda.
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Reply #3 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:23pm
 
Wrongy you're wrong. King of the Weasel Words runs rings around her on the "self-serving, deceitful and morally-bankrupt" fronts. That was the reason I stopped voting for the maggot.
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Reply #4 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:25pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:17pm:
Howards record of being "mean and tricky" gives her a run for her money.


that is only said by a handful of wusses and wimps. Howard is rightly accorded his place as australias MOST POPULAR PM. Gillard could end up near the bottom of the pile vying for last place with McMahon.
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Reply #5 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:30pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:25pm:
adelcrow wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:17pm:
Howards record of being "mean and tricky" gives her a run for her money.


that is only said by a handful of wusses and wimps. Howard is rightly accorded his place as australias MOST POPULAR PM. Gillard could end up near the bottom of the pile vying for last place with McMahon.


It was said by the members of his own party.
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Reply #6 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 1:22pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:15pm:
Gillard’s position as Prime Minister is becoming increasingly unstable, not because of her parlous polls, but because of her personal integrity and the fact that she has so little of it. No promise she makes, no commitment she enters into has any value any more. More than any Prime Minister before her, her word is worthless.






I'd say that the former is heavily influenced by the latter.
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Reply #7 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 1:24pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:25pm:
adelcrow wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:17pm:
Howards record of being "mean and tricky" gives her a run for her money.


that is only said by a handful of wusses and wimps. Howard is rightly accorded his place as australias MOST POPULAR PM. Gillard could end up near the bottom of the pile vying for last place with McMahon.


You know skippy is going to show you you're wrong on that again don't you?  Smiley
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Reply #8 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 1:26pm
 
Gillards negotiating skills are the same as the Italians surrendering skills in WW2.

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Reply #9 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 1:27pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:15pm:
Let’s take a quick flashback to August 2010 and the furious negotiations from Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott for the essential votes of the four independents and the Australian Greens, who would effectively choose which party would govern Australia. History of course, records that Julia Gillard’s negotiations were stunningly successful and she was able to form a fragile coalition government.

Many from both sides were secretly impressed with the way she managed to sway the votes of MPs whose electorates demonstrably wanted the opposite result.  Gillard was reputed to be an excellent negotiator and these skills were amply demonstrated. Now of course, we know what her secret ingredient is to successful negotiation.

LIE.

Tony Abbott never had a chance in his negotiations with the independents because, in the back of his mind, he had to consider how to keep his promises and that will always restrain an ethical negotiator. He couldn’t and wouldn’t promise more than he could deliver. Gillard however, was not at all constrained by such inconveniences.

Having already campaigned on a ‘no carbon tax’ platform, she broke her promise with the Australian electorate by secretly promising the Greens such a tax, in return for their single lower house vote and nine senators. The speed with which she did so - just days after the election - makes John Howard’s ‘non-core promise’ gaffe look like amateur hour. Gillard had quickly shown that she had NO core promises at all. Everything was negotiable, as long as honesty and integrity were to be excluded.

Andrew Wilkie was promised his no-pokies legislation and supported Labor in return. Of course, that promise was shredded, just like so many others. The Greens were promised substantial logging restrictions in Tasmania. Gillard ‘changed her mind’, presumably because there were political complications and no advantage to her.

Kevin Rudd has reason to be upset because all the time his supposedly loyal deputy was publicly declaring her unwavering support, she was going behind his back preparing to stab him. Weeks before Wilkie was shafted, Gillard phoned him to confirm her support for his legislation. There is a pattern developing here! A pattern, not just of broken promises, but blatant lies and deceit.

Gillard’s position as Prime Minister is becoming increasingly unstable, not because of her parlous polls, but because of her personal integrity and the fact that she has so little of it. No promise she makes, no commitment she enters into has any value any more. More than any Prime Minister before her, her word is worthless.

Be it the Private Health changes, the Carbon Tax or the pokies legislation, her promises are meaningless and her word not even worth repeating.

Politicians often lie. It is unfortunately sometimes part of the process. But Julia Gillard lies almost all of the time. It seems that even when she tells the truth, the only reason is that it is to her advantage.

There has never been a more self-serving, deceitful and morally-bankrupt Prime Minister than the one that currently sullies that great office. She is a disgrace and for that reason alone, the Labor party must remove her and install someone whose word might actually mean something.



Great post!!

I think every accepts that pollies lie

But Gillard has taken this to a new low and she continues to sink lower by the day

Gillard's negotiation skills are about on par as the Greeks

They signed up to the rescue package and fail to meet the first condition 2 days later
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Reply #10 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 2:13pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:30pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:25pm:
adelcrow wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:17pm:
Howards record of being "mean and tricky" gives her a run for her money.


that is only said by a handful of wusses and wimps. Howard is rightly accorded his place as australias MOST POPULAR PM. Gillard could end up near the bottom of the pile vying for last place with McMahon.


It was said by the members of his own party.


so? you want that we shoudl record what members of evry party say about their leaders? what matters is what the community as a whole think. The love Howard and believe Gillard is a liar.
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Reply #11 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 2:14pm
 
Gist wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 1:24pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:25pm:
adelcrow wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 12:17pm:
Howards record of being "mean and tricky" gives her a run for her money.


that is only said by a handful of wusses and wimps. Howard is rightly accorded his place as australias MOST POPULAR PM. Gillard could end up near the bottom of the pile vying for last place with McMahon.


You know skippy is going to show you you're wrong on that again don't you?  Smiley


you do know that almost NOTHING skippy says is considereed valuable by almost everybody?  he tells as much truth as Gillard while lacking her intelligence. He still thinks labor can win the election. his opinion is worthless.
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Reply #12 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 2:15pm
 
blackadder wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 1:26pm:
Gillards negotiating skills are the same as the Italians surrendering skills in WW2.



Im astonished by how much Gillard lies. she seems to have no principles or ethics. no agreement cant be broken if it advantages her.
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Reply #13 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 2:16pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 2:15pm:
blackadder wrote on Feb 15th, 2012 at 1:26pm:
Gillards negotiating skills are the same as the Italians surrendering skills in WW2.



Im astonished by how much Gillard lies. she seems to have no principles or ethics. no agreement cant be broken if it advantages her.


What agreements?
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Reply #14 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 2:32pm
 
So you believe 100% Wilkie would have got his billion???

Abbott negotiated as hard as Gillard & would have gone back on his word just as quick if not faster had he pulled off the speaker as Gillard did, not that I think he would have been capable of doing that.

Talk him up all you want but he will be & is just as hopeless as Gillard is, no actually more so, Gillard can at least get the parliament working I doubt Tony would be able to achieve that.
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