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olde.sault

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A change in our constitution needed desperately
Feb 11^th, 2012 at 1:09am

This being, that a candidate should remain with the party he represented during the election.

This metamorphous-ing to independent or turncoat-ing is just not fair to his colleagues nor constituents.

Alternatively, he should pay for his own bi-election - give his area the option to re-elect him on his change of sides.

Why haven't our dumb politicians worked this out long ago?

Wish that I was younger or stronger so that I could make a few changes.

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Re: A change in our constitution needed desperately
Reply #1 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 1:52am

olde.sault wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 1:09am:

This being, that a candidate should remain with the party he represented during the election.

This metamorphous-ing to independent or turncoat-ing is just not fair to his colleagues nor constituents.

Alternatively, he should pay for his own bi-election - give his area the option to re-elect him on his change of sides.

Why haven't our dumb politicians worked this out long ago?

Wish that I was younger or stronger so that I could make a few changes.

Boring facts ...

The Australian Constitution makes no mention of political parties, the position of Prime Minister, or the Cabinet. And, there's no rule that says the Prime Minister must be a member of the House of Representatives.

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Reply #2 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 2:02am

olde.sault wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 1:09am:

This being, that a candidate should remain with the party he represented during the election.

This metamorphous-ing to independent or turncoat-ing is just not fair to his colleagues nor constituents.

Alternatively, he should pay for his own bi-election - give his area the option to re-elect him on his change of sides.

Why haven't our dumb politicians worked this out long ago?

Wish that I was younger or stronger so that I could make a few changes.

Your constitution and your illegitimate Government has no sovereignty over me. Cool

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GoddyofOz Gold Member Offline Vote 1 for Sex, cause you're gay if you don't Posts: 2397	Re: A change in our constitution needed desperately Reply #3 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 2:56am All I'm seeing here Olde is you chucking a tantrum because it was the Libs who lost an MP, and not the Government.
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olde.sault

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Re: A change in our constitution needed desperately
Reply #4 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 5:53am

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 1:52am:

olde.sault wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 1:09am:

This being, that a candidate should remain with the party he represented during the election.

This metamorphous-ing to independent or turncoat-ing is just not fair to his colleagues nor constituents.

Alternatively, he should pay for his own bi-election - give his area the option to re-elect him on his change of sides.

Why haven't our dumb politicians worked this out long ago?

Wish that I was younger or stronger so that I could make a few changes.

Boring facts ...

The Australian Constitution makes no mention of political parties, the position of Prime Minister, or the Cabinet. And, there's no rule that says the Prime Minister must be a member of the House of Representatives.

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Shows that I'm not versed in every part of the constitution but also, its weaknesses!

No wonder there is so much unrest and misbehaviour among those we trust.

As you seem to know so much, you should recognise the truth in what I write--

unless, of course, you are a confirmed leftard in case I shouldn't even be responding to you.

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Reply #5 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:16am

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 2:02am:

Your constitution and your illegitimate Government has no sovereignty over me. Cool

We the people of Australia and through our government, fund you and your corpulent lifestyle, not only do we have sovereignty, we own your fat lazy arse.

Not worth the money we pay, but you give us someone to despise and disrespect. Grin

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Re: A change in our constitution needed desperately
Reply #6 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:41am

GoddyofOz wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 2:56am:

All I'm seeing here Olde is you chucking a tantrum because it was the Libs who lost an MP, and not the Government.

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Really?

I don't think that the Coalition would be happy to accept any turncoat - for a start, they would be as trustworthy as marital cheats.

I remember Don Chipp getting the sulks and forming Australian Democrats.

That hadn't impressed me in the least!

Cheryl Kernot was lured by the Labor Party and lost out in the process.

Let me reiterate, that if one wins a seat standing for a party, they have an obligation to remain in that party until the following election or, if they resign without good reason, pay for a bi-election.

If that rule doesn't belong in the constitution then it has to be enshrined in protocol.

Voters have to be respected.

Naturally, as you are not a conservative, this will sail over your head!
me.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: A change in our constitution needed desperately Reply #7 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:52am Some of the changes we need in federal politics is an end to tax payer funded superannuation, doubling of salaries, yearly published performance appraisals from an independant auditor and fixed 4 yr terms.
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Reply #8 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:56am

adelcrow wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

Some of the changes we need in federal politics is an end to tax payer funded superannuation, doubling of salaries, yearly published performance appraisals from an independant auditor and fixed 4 yr terms.

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I agree on some point but truly, would you like another year of PM JuLiar Gillard?

LOL

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Reply #9 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 8:28am

olde.sault wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:56am:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

Some of the changes we need in federal politics is an end to tax payer funded superannuation, doubling of salaries, yearly published performance appraisals from an independant auditor and fixed 4 yr terms.

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I agree on some point but truly, would you like another year of PM JuLiar Gillard?

LOL

I rather like the 3 year terms but another year of Julia would be a good thing in my opinion compared to the other option.

Fixed terms may have put the opposition in the position of trying to make decisions for the benefit of Australia instead of focusing on making mischief and creating instability on any possible issue.

The poor behaviour of the current opposition has been a disgrace.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62430 Here Gender:	Re: A change in our constitution needed desperately Reply #10 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 8:31am olde.sault wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 1:09am: This being, that a candidate should remain with the party he represented during the election. This is a double edged sword - it infers that the party should also not be able to throw out a member, not sure they would like that very much.
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Re: A change in our constitution needed desperately
Reply #11 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 8:45am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 8:28am:

olde.sault wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:56am:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

Some of the changes we need in federal politics is an end to tax payer funded superannuation, doubling of salaries, yearly published performance appraisals from an independant auditor and fixed 4 yr terms.

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I agree on some point but truly, would you like another year of PM JuLiar Gillard?

LOL

I rather like the 3 year terms but another year of Julia would be a good thing in my opinion compared to the other option.

Fixed terms may have put the opposition in the position of trying to make decisions for the benefit of Australia instead of focusing on making mischief and creating instability on any possible issue.

The poor behaviour of the current opposition has been a disgrace.

Really?

How about JuLIAR's behaviour, the lies, the broken promises?

Take off your blindfold, mate!

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Re: A change in our constitution needed desperately
Reply #12 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 8:49am

olde.sault wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:56am:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

Some of the changes we need in federal politics is an end to tax payer funded superannuation, doubling of salaries, yearly published performance appraisals from an independant auditor and fixed 4 yr terms.

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I agree on some point but truly, would you like another year of PM JuLiar Gillard?

LOL

Three years is to short ..I couldnt stand Howard and the thought of Abbott running the country makes me dry reach but if the majority of the people vote someone in they should be given a fair chance to govern. And a fixed four year term is a much better time span to impliment the changes the voters voted for. It also gives people a chance to see the results of those changes and I also think two four year terms is long enough for anyone..after that they should nick off.

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Reply #13 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 8:51am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 8:31am:

olde.sault wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 1:09am:

This being, that a candidate should remain with the party he represented during the election.

This is a double edged sword - it infers that the party should also not be able to throw out a member, not sure they would like that very much.

What? Today, a party can't throw out a member for bad behaviour?

Not even if that member is being investigated by the police as is today's pelican, Craig Thompson?

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Reply #14 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 8:52am

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:16am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 2:02am:

Your constitution and your illegitimate Government has no sovereignty over me. Cool

We the people of Australia and through our government, fund you and your corpulent lifestyle, not only do we have sovereignty, we own your fat lazy arse.

Not worth the money we pay, but you give us someone to despise and disrespect. Grin

Your Parliament is the Tabernacle of Feces, its members are apostles of hell, your constitution is a doctrine of devils. My constitution is written in me, I am the Parliament of the living God, your order of things and its age are passing away. Cool

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