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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #15 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:37pm Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:32pm: ... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:01pm: I want to know what it is that makes lefties so superior to righties. Egalitarianism and rationality, for starters. You'll have to expand on that.
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Reply #16 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:37pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:34pm:

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So you'd agree that

A declaration of war against the order of things which exist, against the state of things which exist, in a word, against the structure of the world which presently exists”.

adequately sums up progressive goals?

Nope.

Why not? Isn't it the very definiton of 'progress' and thus 'progressive' to do away with the existing order and bring in a new one? Isn't conservative, the opposite of progress, the idea of preserving what exists?

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Reply #17 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:39pm

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:37pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:34pm:

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:13pm:

So you'd agree that

A declaration of war against the order of things which exist, against the state of things which exist, in a word, against the structure of the world which presently exists”.

adequately sums up progressive goals?

Nope.

Why not? Isn't it the very definiton of 'progress' and thus 'progressive' to do away with the existing order and bring in a new one? Isn't conservative, the opposite of progress, the idea of preserving what exists?

I wouldn't call it a declaration of war.

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Reply #18 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:42pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:39pm:

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:37pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:34pm:

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:13pm:

So you'd agree that

A declaration of war against the order of things which exist, against the state of things which exist, in a word, against the structure of the world which presently exists”.

adequately sums up progressive goals?

Nope.

Why not? Isn't it the very definiton of 'progress' and thus 'progressive' to do away with the existing order and bring in a new one? Isn't conservative, the opposite of progress, the idea of preserving what exists?

I wouldn't call it a declaration of war.

so it's not the sentiment itself, but you just feel it's worded a bit strongly?

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Reply #19 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 6:13pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:32pm:

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

I want to know what it is that makes lefties so superior to righties.

Egalitarianism and rationality, for starters.

The 2 are mutually exclusive.

Saying all things are equal, when by any measure they are not, cannot be called rational.

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Reply #20 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 6:40pm

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:39pm:

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A declaration of war against the order of things which exist, against the state of things which exist, in a word, against the structure of the world which presently exists”.

Pretty much.

They definitely hold a gloomy and pessimistic view of the world. Contentment or happiness only seems to exist in some idealized future. Funnily enough, that future never seems to arrive.

I bring it all back to physiology.
Lefties have a depressive and/or neurotic constitution. Their world outlook is only a manifestation of that constitution.
If their souls are sick, then it's a given their philosophy will be sick.

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Reply #21 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 7:23pm

pro·gres·sive [pruh-gres-iv] Show IPA
adjective
1.
favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, especially in political matters: a progressive mayor.
2.
making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community.
3.
characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement.
4.
( initial capital letter ) of or pertaining to any of the Progressive parties in politics.
5.
going forward or onward; passing successively from one member of a series to the next; proceeding step by step.

Improvement seems to be the underlying point about the term "progressive".

Come on wesley.

Let's hear you argue against improvement.

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Reply #22 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 7:27pm

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 7:23pm:

pro·gres·sive [pruh-gres-iv] Show IPA
adjective
1.
favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, especially in political matters: a progressive mayor.
2.
making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community.
3.
characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement.
4.
( initial capital letter ) of or pertaining to any of the Progressive parties in politics.
5.
going forward or onward; passing successively from one member of a series to the next; proceeding step by step.

Improvement seems to be the underlying point about the term "progressive".

Come on wesley.

Let's hear you argue against improvement.

Where did that fluff piece come from? Sounds like something a progressive wrote themselves, not from an outside observer.

Just like to point something out to you just in case.

Change + progress does not mean it is the right change or the right direction just because a progressive suggested it.

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Reply #23 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 7:29pm

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 7:23pm:

pro·gres·sive [pruh-gres-iv] Show IPA
adjective
1.
favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, especially in political matters: a progressive mayor.
2.
making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community.
3.
characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement.
4.
( initial capital letter ) of or pertaining to any of the Progressive parties in politics.
5.
going forward or onward; passing successively from one member of a series to the next; proceeding step by step.

Improvement seems to be the underlying point about the term "progressive".

Come on wesley.

Let's hear you argue against improvement.

Where did that fluff piece come from? Sounds like something a progressive wrote themselves, not from an outside observer.

Just like to point something out to you just in case.

Change + progress does not mean it is the right change or the right direction just because a progressive suggested it.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/progressive

That well known leftist organization dictionary.com

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Reply #24 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 7:36pm

pro·gres·sive
(pr-grsv)
adj.
1. Moving forward; advancing.
2. Proceeding in steps; continuing steadily by increments: progressive change.
3. Promoting or favoring progress toward better conditions or new policies, ideas, or methods: a progressive politician; progressive business leadership.
4. Progressive Of or relating to a Progressive Party: the Progressive platform of 1924.
5. Of or relating to progressive education: a progressive school.
6. Increasing in rate as the taxable amount increases: a progressive income tax.
7. Pathology Tending to become more severe or wider in scope: progressive paralysis.
8. Grammar Designating a verb form that expresses an action or condition in progress.
n.
1. A person who actively favors or strives for progress toward better conditions, as in society or government.
2. Progressive A member or supporter of a Progressive Party.
3. Grammar A progressive verb form.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/progressive

ANOTHER leftist marxist pinko dictionary.

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darkhall67 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1935	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #25 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 7:39pm Synonyms: developed, evolved, forward, high, higher, improved, late, advanced, refined Antonyms: backward, low, lower, nonprogressive, primitive, retarded, rude, rudimentary, undeveloped http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/progressive They're EVERYWHERE. It's a CONSPIRACY.
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Reply #26 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 9:45pm

Every progressive Christian worth his/her/its "pillar of salt" is sure to enjoy the revised story of Moses, whose crusading band of Zionist aggressors ambushed the disenfranchised Egyptian freedom fighters in what became known as the "Red Sea Massacre." Other revised inspirational stories of moral relativism include:

The Organic Garden of Eden
Pharaoh Has Two Mummies
What Happens in Sodom and Gomorrah Stays in Sodom and Gomorrah
Noah Builds Ark to Survive Global Warming
Jonah Saves the Whale
David Appeases Goliath
The Bilingual Writing on the Wall
The Tower of Babel & The Controlled Demolition Theory
Uncle Samson & The NY Times Reporter Delilah
Judas The ACLU Lawyer
Joseph & Mary Celebrate Holiday Season By Donating Fetus To Federal Embryonic Stem Cell Bank
Government Program Feeds The Multitudes with Five "Whole Grain" Loaves And Two Non-Endangered Fishes

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Reply #27 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 9:56pm

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:58pm:

So is there any specific thing about 'the order of things' that you hate, and feel the burning need to dismantle? What would you replace the "order that exists" with?

Seems a bit like change for the sake of it otherwise.

Hi Honkytonk

The world as it is today is ruled by the few for the many.

Its called broken capatalism which is one mans dream Milton Freidmanism and is just as bad as communism or any isms you might like to recite.

What would i do, i would like our government to rule Australia not coporatism, we have all experienced both and i say the government is better.

First our governments should buy back all our utilities ie. gas electricity, water, public transport, telstra etc.

Second our governments should get control of the Australian reserve bank, as i'm sure it was sold into private hands in 1963 but treasury still has an influence on policy thank goodness its not the way of the US reserve bank.

Third we should also have an Australian commercial bank owned by the government like for example the commonwealth.

Fourth we should kick out all these looters and pilagers that are raping Australia's wealth and paying pitence in return.

The government of Australia should mine Australia's wealth like coal, oil and gas, copper, gold etc etc.

If we did all these things, we would indeed be the lucky country made of milk and honey.

As it stands at the moment corporations rule this country and are getting fat of the land, while Australians recieve peanuts.

Thing is it wont last for ever and when all has dried up corporations will be outta here faster than you can drop a hot patatoe.

I say while its there lets exploit it ourselves.

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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
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Reply #28 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 10:04pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:32pm:

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

I want to know what it is that makes lefties so superior to righties.

Egalitarianism and rationality, for starters.

"Egalitarianism and rationality, for starters."

Socialists, lefties, are about 'do-gooding', .......to 'me', 'me', 'me'.

They are thieves.

They embrace a philosophy of thievery.

They want to steal from those who create and produce goods and ideas, and give that real wealth to the unworthy and to the lazy, for no other reason than to 'feed' their profligate consumption.

IMO, lefties wouldn't know what the ideals of egalitarianism, or rationality were, if it bit them on the ar$e.

Dictionary;
profligate = = recklessly extravagant or wasteful. licentious; dissolute.

Yadda, the 'irrational', 'red-neck'

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #29 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 10:10pm

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:39pm:

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A declaration of war against the order of things which exist, against the state of things which exist, in a word, against the structure of the world which presently exists”.

Translate, anyone who will not bow down in submission & worship to the rightard false baal god and his doctrines and dares to think for himself is a heretic worthy of death by torture and boiling alive in oil... Roll Eyes

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