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Reply #30 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 1:57am
 
falah wrote on Feb 11th, 2012 at 10:32am:
muso wrote on Feb 11th, 2012 at 8:51am:
Adamant wrote on Feb 11th, 2012 at 1:14am:
More stuff on those well loved to death Copts in Egypt



For what it's worth, Syrian Christians are extremely worried that Islamists will take over Syria. At least they get respect and tolerance from the current regime. There is concern that the situation will become like that in Egypt.

In Egypt, the problem right now is lawlessness. Pure and simple.


But persecution against Muslims is ignored by people like you. Only a few days a go a Muslim restaurant in melbourne was raided by Syrian Alawites who robbed the store terrorised staff with knives whilst shouting support for president Al-Assad. They even stole driving licenses of the staff.

If these Alawite thugs will even target Muslims in Australia, how much is the persecution of muslims actually inside Syria?





An analogy;

Letting PREDATORS, like crocodiles, live together is not 'persecution', it is 'natural selection'.

Crocodiles predating upon other crocodiles [and they do!], is not 'persecution', it is 'natural selection'.

So when at the zoo, you have a new crocodile [a predator] arrive, the zoo keeper should put the crocodile into the crocodile enclosure.

Persecution, would be putting the new crocodile in the sheep enclosure.

That would be persecution, for the sheep.



In the human family, moslems are predators.

ISLAM teaches moslems predation [....upon those deemed to be non-moslems].

ISLAM teaches moslems that predation is lawful and 'natural' for themselves.


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29



Google;
house of war, Dar al-Harb


Google;
divisions of the world, in islam, Dar al-Harb




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Non-moslems who believe moslems are 'like us', are willingly ignorant, willingly naive.

Why so ?

Q.
Why do some non-moslems so blatantly hate truth ?

A.
Because, for some non-moslems, they have learnt that truth does not serve them [i.e. they know that truth does not, will not, serve them, in their seeking to achieve their desires].   [....therefore they hate truth.]






Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.



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Reply #31 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 1:23pm
 
Yadda wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 1:57am:
In the human family, moslems are predators.


That is why, in the last 60 years, the Christian USA invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, Vietnam, Philippines, Lebanon, Grenada, Cuba, Cambodia, Dominican Republic, Laos, Panama and Korea.

In the same period, the Christian USA has bombed the Philippines, Somalia, Lybia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Korea.

Who is the only people to ever drop a nuclear bomb on civilian targets? Christian USA.

Who firebombed Japan and Germany destroying up to 90% of some cities? Christian USA.

Who Killed 6 million people in WWII? Christian hitler.

Who killed 3 million people in Cambodia? Atheist Pol Pot.

Who killed 20 million people in USSR? Atheist Stalin.

Who killed 50 million people in China? Atheist Mao.

Who Conducted the Spanish inquisition? The Catholic Church.

My Lai Massacre of Civlilian Vietnamese by Christian US Soldiers


mass murder of between 347 and 504 unarmed civilians in South Vietnam on March 16, 1968, by United States Army soldiers of "Charlie" Company of 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai
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Reply #32 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 3:11pm
 
falah wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 1:23pm:
Yadda wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 1:57am:
In the human family, moslems are predators.


That is why, in the last 60 years, the Christian USA invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, Vietnam, Philippines, Lebanon, Grenada, Cuba, Cambodia, Dominican Republic, Laos, Panama and Korea.

In the same period, the Christian USA has bombed the Philippines, Somalia, Lybia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Korea.

Who is the only people to ever drop a nuclear bomb on civilian targets? Christian USA.

Who firebombed Japan and Germany destroying up to 90% of some cities? Christian USA.

Who Killed 6 million people in WWII? Christian hitler.

Who killed 3 million people in Cambodia? Atheist Pol Pot.

Who killed 20 million people in USSR? Atheist Stalin.

Who killed 50 million people in China? Atheist Mao.

Who Conducted the Spanish inquisition? The Catholic Church.




You left Bosnia off your list Falah do you recall the USA helping that war criminal muslim called  Naser Oric?


You should read the USA constitution before making absurd claims Falah or you might end up looking like a dumbfvckistani.

  "Nowhere in the USA constitution do we have a single mention of christianity,God,jesus or any supreme being.

There occurs only 2 references to religion and they both use exclusionary wording.

The first amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion".

Article IV section 3 - No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United states.


The USA is a secular country as defined by their constitution that makes your post full of lies falah.

The first muslim massacre in a long list dating back around 1400 years of jews known as the genocide of the Banu Qurayza-
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Genocide_of_Banu_Qurayza
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Reply #33 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 3:45pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 3:11pm:
  "Nowhere in the USA constitution do we have a single mention of christianity,God,jesus or any supreme being.

There occurs only 2 references to religion and they both use exclusionary wording.

The first amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion".

Article IV section 3 - No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United states.


The USA is a secular country as defined by their constitution that makes your post full of lies falah.


American voters, politicians & soldiers are all secular atheists then are they?

The fact is that the US is one of the most religious Christian countries in the world. There 90 million Evangelical Christians in the US. Nearly 1 in 3 voters in the US are fanatical Evangelicals.

To say that the actions of the US government do not reflect their Christian values is absurd.

On his first day in office, President Bush implemented the Mexico City Policy; this policy required nongovernmental organizations receiving federal funds to agree not to perform abortions or to actively promote abortion as a method of family planning in other nations.

Bush banned embryonic stem cell research.

The Bush administration promoted a policy of abstinence only sex education, denying federal funding for any other type of sexual health education.

It is ludicrous to suggest that Bush's policies were not rooted in the Christian religion.

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 3:11pm:
The first muslim massacre in a long list dating back around 1400 years of jews known as the genocide of the Banu Qurayza-
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Genocide_of_Banu_Qurayza


Only an idiot would take the wikiislam anti-Muslim propganda site seriously.

You may as well get information about black people from a KKK or David Duke website if you are going to get "information" about Islam from a hate-site.
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Reply #34 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 4:28pm
 
falah wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 3:45pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 3:11pm:
  "Nowhere in the USA constitution do we have a single mention of christianity,God,jesus or any supreme being.

There occurs only 2 references to religion and they both use exclusionary wording.

The first amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion".

Article IV section 3 - No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United states.


The USA is a secular country as defined by their constitution that makes your post full of lies falah.


American voters, politicians & soldiers are all secular atheists then are they?



That question indicates you are ignorant of what a secular state or country is falah.

Australia is a secular country as is most of the world check out the red on the map.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_state

Only a dumbfvckistani muslim would claim a secular country is a christian country.

Wiki islam was set up by ex muslims, the same people who you think it is ok to kill for apostasy.
Killing an ex muslim for leaving Islam is a hate crime you hypocrite!i
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Reply #35 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 5:11pm
 
A) Is the USA a democracy?

B) Are the vast overwhelming majority of US politicians and voters Christians?

Now you do the math. The American Government does not represent an atheist majority.
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Reply #36 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 5:33pm
 
falah wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 5:11pm:
A) Is the USA a democracy?

B) Are the vast overwhelming majority of US politicians and voters Christians?

Now you do the math. The American Government does not represent an atheist majority.


The USA like Australia is a secular country,do you even know what a secular country is falah?

Have you ever heard the term "Separation of church and state"?
Do you comprehend what that means?

Which one is the majority in the USA falah can you make up your mind is it the christians or atheists?



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Reply #37 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 7:13pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 5:33pm:
The USA like Australia is a secular country,do you even know what a secular country is falah?

Have you ever heard the term "Separation of church and state"?
Do you comprehend what that means?

Which one is the majority in the USA falah can you make up your mind is it the christians or atheists?





This might be a bit complicated for you, but America is a secular state with an overwhelming Christian majority electorate who vote Christian presidents to determine their foreign policy.

Does the US constitution say that Christian politicians cannot control US foreign policy?




Atheists are relatively few in the US, where nearly 80% of the population claims to be Christian:

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Reply #38 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 8:28pm
 
falah wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 7:13pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 5:33pm:
The USA like Australia is a secular country,do you even know what a secular country is falah?

Have you ever heard the term "Separation of church and state"?
Do you comprehend what that means?

Which one is the majority in the USA falah can you make up your mind is it the christians or atheists?





This might be a bit complicated for you, but America is a secular state with an overwhelming Christian majority

Does the US constitution say that...

Atheists are relatively few in the US, where nearly 80% of the population claims to be Christian:


You should read the American constitution instead of listening to your imam.

The National Academy of Sciences did a survey on the religion of their members and 93% of them are atheist or agnostic.

I would say atheists are very common among the educated only stupid people believe in fairy tales and jinns.

Read this Falah why are 93% atheist or agnostic with this demographic from the USA?
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/news/file002.html


You dont believe in christianity or judiasm or any other beliefs so you are an atheist when it comes to all religions except Islam.




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Reply #39 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 10:37pm
 
People who believe in God are not allowed by the Darwinist establishment to become scientists.

These days there are obstacles put in the way for Believers to enter science.

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"Our study data do not strongly support the idea that scientists simply drop their religious identities upon professional training, due to an inherent conflict between science and faith, or to institutional pressure to conform," Ecklund says...

...Among scientists, as in the general population, being raised in a home in which religion and religious practice were valued is the most important predictor of present religiosity among the subjects.

Ecklund and Scheitle concluded that the assumption that becoming a scientist necessarily leads to loss of religion is untenable.

Ecklund says, "It appears that those from non-religious backgrounds disproportionately self-select into scientific professions. This may reflect the fact that there is tension between the religious tenets of some groups and the theories and methods of particular sciences and it contributes to the large number of non-religious scientists."...

http://www.physorg.com/news102700045.html



What the US studies have found is that scientists are far less likely to be Christian than the rest of the US population. However, there is a suggestion that people from other religions may be more inclined to be scientists:

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while nearly 14 percent of the U.S. population who responded to the GSS describe themselves as "evangelical" or "fundamentalist," [Christian] less than 2 percent of the RAAS population identifies with either label.

The only traditional religious identity category where the RAAS population has a much higher proportion of religious adherents than the general population is among those who identify as Jewish -- 15 percent compared to 2 percent of the general population.

http://www.physorg.com/news102700045.html



Before the Darwinist extremists took over, there were plenty of scientists who believed in God:

Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Max Planck (1858-1947)

Planck made many contributions to physics, but is best known for quantum theory, which revolutionized our understanding of the atomic and sub-atomic worlds. In his 1937 lecture "Religion and Naturwissenschaft," Planck held that "the holiness of the unintelligible Godhead is conveyed by the holiness of symbols." Atheists, he thought, attach too much importance to what are merely symbols. Planck was a churchwarden from 1920 until his death, and believed in an almighty, all-knowing, beneficent God (though not necessarily a personal one). Both science and religion wage a "tireless battle against skepticism and dogmatism, against unbelief and superstition" with the goal "toward God!"


William Thomson Kelvin (1824-1907)
Kelvin was foremost among the small group of British scientists who helped to lay the foundations of modern physics. His work covered many areas of physics, and he was said to have more letters after his name than anyone else in the Commonwealth, since he received numerous honorary degrees from European Universities, which recognized the value of his work. He was a very committed Christian, who was certainly more religious than the average for his era. Interestingly, his fellow physicists George Gabriel Stokes (1819-1903) and James Clerk Maxwell (1831-1879) were also men of deep Christian commitment, in an era when many were nominal, apathetic, or anti-Christian. The Encyclopedia Britannica says "Maxwell is regarded by most modern physicists as the scientist of the 19th century who had the greatest influence on 20th century physics; he is ranked with Sir Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein for the fundamental nature of his contributions." Lord Kelvin was an Old Earth creationist, who estimated the Earth's age to be somewhere between 20 million and 100 million years, with an upper limit at 500 million years based on cooling rates (a low estimate due to his lack of knowledge about radiogenic heating).


Gregor Mendel (1822-1884)
Mendel was the first to lay the mathematical foundations of genetics, in what came to be called "Mendelianism". He began his research in 1856 (three years before Darwin published his Origin of Species) in the garden of the Monastery in which he was a monk. Mendel was elected Abbot of his Monastery in 1868. His work remained comparatively unknown until the turn of the century, when a new generation of botanists began finding similar results and "rediscovered" him (though their ideas were not identical to his). An interesting point is that the 1860's was notable for formation of the X-Club, which was dedicated to lessening religious influences and propagating an image of "conflict" between science and religion. One sympathizer was Darwin's cousin Francis Galton, whose scientific interest was in genetics (a proponent of eugenics - selective breeding among humans to "improve" the stock). He was writing how the "priestly mind" was not conducive to science while, at around the same time, an Austrian monk was making the breakthrough in genetics. The rediscovery of the work of Mendel came too late to affect Galton's contribution.


Michael Faraday (1791-1867)
Michael Faraday was the son of a blacksmith who became one of the greatest scientists of the 19th century. His work on electricity and magnetism not only revolutionized physics, but led to much of our lifestyles today, which depends on them (including computers and telephone lines and, so, web sites). Faraday was a devoutly Christian member of the Sandemanians, which significantly influenced him and strongly affected the way in which he approached and interpreted nature. Originating from Presbyterians, the Sandemanians rejected the idea of state churches, and tried to go back to a New Testament type of Christianity.


Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
In optics, mechanics, and mathematics, Newton was a figure of undisputed genius and innovation. In all his science (including chemistry) he saw mathematics and numbers as central. What is less well known is that he was devoutly religious and saw numbers as involved in understanding God's plan for history from the Bible. He did a considerable work on biblical numerology, and, though aspects of his beliefs were not orthodox, he thought theology was very important. In his system of physics, God was essential to the nature and absoluteness of space. In Principia he stated, "The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being."

Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1627)
Bacon was a philosopher who is known for establishing the scientific method of inquiry based on experimentation and inductive reasoning. In De Interpretatione Naturae Prooemium, Bacon established his goals as being the discovery of truth, service to his country, and service to the church. Although his work was based upon experimentation and reasoning, he rejected atheism as being the result of insufficient depth of philosophy, stating, "It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion; for while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the chain of them confederate, and linked together, it must needs fly to Providence and Deity."


Anyway there may be a returning to religion amongst scientists:

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RAAS data reveal that younger scientists are more likely to believe in God than older scientists, and more likely to report attending religious services over the past year. "If this holds throughout the career life-course for this cohort of academic scientists," Ecklund says, "it could indicate an overall shift in attitudes toward religion among those in the academy."
http://www.physorg.com/news102700045.html



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Reply #40 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 10:53pm
 
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...disdain for religion is far from universal among scientists...scientists who embrace religion are beginning to speak out about their faith.

"It should not be a taboo subject, but frankly it often is in scientific circles," said Francis S. Collins, who directs the National Human Genome Research Institute and who speaks freely about his Christian faith.

Although they embrace religious faith, these scientists also embrace science as it has been defined for centuries. That is, they look to the natural world for explanations of what happens in the natural world and they recognize that scientific ideas must be provisional - capable of being overturned by evidence from experimentation and observation. This belief in science sets them apart from those who endorse creationism or its doctrinal cousin, intelligent design, both of which depend on the existence of a supernatural force.

Their belief in God challenges scientists who regard religious belief as little more than magical thinking, as some do. Their faith also challenges believers who denounce science as a godless enterprise and scientists as secular elitists contemptuous of God-fearing people...

...When the American Association for the Advancement of Science devoted a session to this idea of separation at its annual meeting this year, scores of scientists crowded into a room to hear it.

Some of them said they were unsatisfied with the idea, because they believe scientists' moral values must inevitably affect their work, others because so much of science has so many ethical implications in the real world.

One panelist, Dr. Noah Efron of Bar-Ilan University in Israel, said scientists, like other people, were guided by their own human purposes, meaning and values. The idea that fact can be separated from values and meaning "jibes poorly with what we know of the history of science," Dr. Efron said.

Dr. Collins, who is working on a book about his religious faith, also believes that people should not have to keep religious beliefs and scientific theories strictly separate. "I don't find it very satisfactory and I don't find it very necessary," he said in an interview. He noted that until relatively recently, most scientists were believers. "Isaac Newton wrote a lot more about the Bible than the laws of nature," he said...

...Dr. Collins was a nonbeliever until he was 27 - "more and more into the mode of being not only agnostic but being an atheist," as he put it. All that changed after he completed his doctorate in physics and was at work on his medical degree, when he was among those treating a woman dying of heart disease. "She was very clear about her faith and she looked me square in the eye and she said, 'what do you believe?' " he recalled. "I sort of stammered out, 'I am not sure.' "

He said he realized then that he had never considered the matter seriously, the way a scientist should. He began reading about various religious beliefs, which only confused him. Finally, a Methodist minister gave him a book, "Mere Christianity," by C. S. Lewis. In the book Lewis, an atheist until he was a grown man, argues that the idea of right and wrong is universal among people, a moral law they "did not make, and cannot quite forget even when they try." This universal feeling, he said, is evidence for the plausibility of God.

When he read the book, Dr. Collins said, "I thought, my gosh, this guy is me."

Today, Dr. Collins said, he does not embrace any particular denomination, but he is a Christian...he said he had discovered in talking to students and colleagues that "there is a great deal of interest in this topic."

Polling Scientists on Beliefs

According to a much-discussed survey reported in the journal Nature in 1997, 40 percent of biologists, physicists and mathematicians said they believed in God - and not just a nonspecific transcendental presence but, as the survey put it, a God to whom one may pray "in expectation of receiving an answer."...

...This response is not surprising to researchers like Steven Weinberg, a physicist at the University of Texas, a member of the academy and a winner of the Nobel Prize in 1979 for his work in particle physics. He said he could understand why religious people would believe that anything that eroded belief was destructive...

...He rejects the idea that scientists who reject religion are arrogant. "We know how many mistakes we've made," Dr. Weinberg said..."Most scientists I know simply don't think about it very much. They don't think about religion enough to qualify as practicing atheists."...

...Kenneth R. Miller, a biology professor at Brown, said his students were often surprised to find that he was religious, especially when they realized that his faith was not some sort of vague theism but observant Roman Catholicism.

Dr. Miller, whose book, "Finding Darwin's God," explains his reconciliation of the theory of evolution with his religious faith, said he was usually challenged in his biology classes by one or two students whose religions did not accept evolution, who asked how important the theory would be in the course.

"What they are really asking me is "do I have to believe in this stuff to get an A?,' " he said...

...Dr. Murray, who describes himself as "a cradle Catholic" who has rarely missed weekly Mass and who prays every morning, said that when he was preparing for the first ever human organ transplant, a kidney that a young man had donated to his identical twin, he and his colleagues consulted a number of religious leaders about whether they were doing the right thing. "It seemed natural," he said...

...Since his appearance at the City College panel, when he was dismayed by the tepid reception received by his remarks on the incompatibility of good science and religious belief, Dr. Hauptman said he had been discussing the issue with colleagues in Buffalo, where he is president of the Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute.

"I think almost without exception the people I have spoken to are scientists and they do believe in the existence of a supreme being," he said. "If you ask me to explain it - I cannot explain it at all."...

...Dr. Collins said he believed that some scientists were unwilling to profess faith in public "because the assumption is if you are a scientist you don't have any need of action of the supernatural sort," or because of pride in the idea that science is the ultimate source of intellectual meaning.

But he said he believed that some scientists were simply unwilling to confront the big questions religion tried to answer. "You will never understand what it means to be a human being through naturalistic observation," he said. "You won't understand why you are here and what the meaning is. Science has no power to address these questions - and are they not the most important questions we ask ourselves?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/23/national/23believers.html?pagewanted=3



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...What do scientists actually believe when it comes to religion? Almost three-quarters say “there are basic truths in many religions.” This compares with just over 80% of Americans who believe the same...

http://www.annarbor.com/faith/science-vs-religion-what-are-scientists-religious-beliefs/

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Reply #41 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 10:57pm
 
Einstein was an atheist we have been through this how thick are you?

93% of the National Academy of science members do not believe in god.

That is less than 1/10 who do believe in god, who is the odd one out in that group falah?

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Reply #42 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 10:07am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 10:57pm:
Einstein was an atheist we have been through this how thick are you?

93% of the National Academy of science members do not believe in god.

That is less than 1/10 who do believe in god, who is the odd one out in that group falah?



lol...mate your so full of sh(t. Einstein was athiest? lol...now I've heard it all.

'God does not play chance'....now who was it that said that?

Einstein was actually put forward as a candidate for the Israeli leadership.....being a practising Jew.

Seriously...some of the crap that comes out of your mouth is amazing. You make it up as you go along....

http://www.bigquestionsonline.com/columns/michael-shermer/einstein%E2%80%99s-god

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When he turned 50, Einstein granted an interview in which he was asked point-blank, do you believe in God? “I am not an atheist,” he began. “The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn’t know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws.”



Not sure how much more clearer you would like it to be. 'I am not an athiest'....lol, yet doesn't stop douchebags like you making up lies.

Lol...and you wonder why we don't take anything you say seriously.


Oh...and speaking about secular countries? You do realise that Iraq was secular under Saddam...as was Egypt under Mubarak. Yet that didn't stop scum like you repeating time and time again that they are 'muslim'.

Fool....
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Reply #43 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 11:11am
 
Lestat wrote on Feb 13th, 2012 at 10:07am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 10:57pm:
Einstein was an atheist we have been through this how thick are you?

93% of the National Academy of science members do not believe in god.

That is less than 1/10 who do believe in god, who is the odd one out in that group falah?



lol...mate your so full of sh(t. Einstein was athiest? lol...now I've heard it all.

'God does not play chance'....now who was it that said that?

Einstein was actually put forward as a candidate for the Israeli leadership.....being a practising Jew.

Seriously...some of the crap that comes out of your mouth is amazing. You make it up as you go along....

http://www.bigquestionsonline.com/columns/michael-shermer/einstein%E2%80%99s-god

Quote:
When he turned 50, Einstein granted an interview in which he was asked point-blank, do you believe in God? “I am not an atheist,” he began. “The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn’t know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws.”



Not sure how much more clearer you would like it to be. 'I am not an athiest'....lol, yet doesn't stop douchebags like you making up lies.

Lol...and you wonder why we don't take anything you say seriously.


Oh...and speaking about secular countries? You do realise that Iraq was secular under Saddam...as was Egypt under Mubarak. Yet that didn't stop scum like you repeating time and time again that they are 'muslim'.

Fool....


Einstein did not believe in god.

Do Agnostics believe in god lestat?

Why dont you read what Einstein really thought about religion here it even cites where the quote came from -
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/quotes_einstein.html

Did Saddam or Egypt sign the Universal Declaration of human rights or was Iraq and Egypt like Iran and Saudi Arabia in saying the Universal declaration of human rights violates Islamic law.



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Reply #44 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 4:21pm
 
Baron,

Why do you always move the goal posts when your lies are exposed...time and time again.

You quite clearly stated that Einstein was an athiest. I have provided you a quote where he quite clearly states 'I AM NOT AN ATHIEST'.

Not sure how much more clearer it can be. Now that your lie has been exposed...you slightly shift the goal posts...and claim he is 'agnostic'...or not 'religous'.

But you didn't say that...did you. No..you quite clearly stated that he was an athiest.

Do you admit that you just made that up?

Secondly, he did believe in God, and has stated so publicly...many times. Do you really want me to make you look the fool a second time?

If you do, just say the word.

So Einstien rejected his native Judism and Christianity. So what...I can understand why? Anyone with a semblence of logic would reject these two pagan cults. Its no surprise whatsoever. However, to claim that he is an athiest when he is not...is just outright misleading.

Its no coincidence....many people raised Christian/Jew become agnostic. Deep inside they believe in a creator...a higher being, however, they cannot accept the numerous contradictions/and and outright lies and errors in the Bible/Torah...

Many become muslims.

Besides...I suggest you read the very quotes from Einstein you posted. It appears clearly, that he rejects the idea of a 'personal God'. He states so quite clearly.

Quote:
The idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I am unable to take seriously.”



The concept of a 'personal God' is very much Judeo Christian concept.


Really...your not telling us anything we don't already know.

And on your final point. Once again...what has the 'universal declaration of human rights' have to do with secularism?

Nothing..thats what. Just another pathetic attempt by yourself to divert from the facts. Egypt and Iraq were both secular nations, yet it doesn't stop you labelling them as muslim. No different then Falah labelling the US as Christians.

Besides...I'm pretty sure that the declaration of human rights says something about indefinate detention for political reasons. Hows the US track record with that? Guantanemo ring a bell?

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