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The myth of global warming.
Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:26am

Why are people still peddling this obvious hoax, scare campaign, and blatant lie of global warming? Studies show that it holds no basis in fact whatsoever, and it's also interesting to note that the name was originally the very specific 'global warming', but now has gone to the very generic and broad 'climate change'. Tim Flannery and Ross Garnaut predicted that rain would be a thing of the past. The climate would reach unrelenting and unbearable high temperatues. Well, we've all seen what's happened, haven't we? People freezing to death in Europe with unbearable cold temperatures, and floodings of dams all over the world. Let's look a little closer to home. Australia had its coldest start to summer this year, since 1960. Temperatures have been consistently cold everywhere this summer, except for Darwin, which is always hot anyway. But even there, Darwin had its cloldest July in 50 years last year, as did Sydney. Of course, one need only look at parts of Queensland and Northern New South Wales. WHERE IS MR FLANNERY AND WHERE IS MR GARNAUT? COME ON, OVER HERE AND EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!!!

Global warming is a hoax targeted at the weak, the fearful, the naive, and the downright stupid.

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barnaby joe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1992 euchareena	Re: The myth of global warming. Reply #1 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:40am Studies show that it holds no basis in fact whatsoever
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: The myth of global warming. Reply #2 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:43am Hard Right Matty, a thread already exists http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1328386237
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Re: The myth of global warming.
Reply #3 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 9:24am

matty wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:26am:

Why are people still peddling this obvious hoax, scare campaign, and blatant lie of global warming? Studies show that it holds no basis in fact whatsoever, and it's also interesting to note that the name was originally the very specific 'global warming', but now has gone to the very generic and broad 'climate change'. Tim Flannery and Ross Garnaut predicted that rain would be a thing of the past. The climate would reach unrelenting and unbearable high temperatues. Well, we've all seen what's happened, haven't we? People freezing to death in Europe with unbearable cold temperatures, and floodings of dams all over the world. Let's look a little closer to home. Australia had its coldest start to summer this year, since 1960. Temperatures have been consistently cold everywhere this summer, except for Darwin, which is always hot anyway. But even there, Darwin had its cloldest July in 50 years last year, as did Sydney. Of course, one need only look at parts of Queensland and Northern New South Wales. WHERE IS MR FLANNERY AND WHERE IS MR GARNAUT? COME ON, OVER HERE AND EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!!!

Global warming is a hoax targeted at the weak, the fearful, the naive, and the downright stupid.

Damn!, so John Howard, Malcolm Turnbull and Margaret Thatcher - not to mention Roger Scruton, are among the perpetrators of this hoax, together with every Academy of Sciences in the world?

Seems a little far fetched to say that it's a hoax.

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Reply #4 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 2:18pm

muso wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 9:24am:

matty wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:26am:

Why are people still peddling this obvious hoax, scare campaign, and blatant lie of global warming? Studies show that it holds no basis in fact whatsoever, and it's also interesting to note that the name was originally the very specific 'global warming', but now has gone to the very generic and broad 'climate change'. Tim Flannery and Ross Garnaut predicted that rain would be a thing of the past. The climate would reach unrelenting and unbearable high temperatues. Well, we've all seen what's happened, haven't we? People freezing to death in Europe with unbearable cold temperatures, and floodings of dams all over the world. Let's look a little closer to home. Australia had its coldest start to summer this year, since 1960. Temperatures have been consistently cold everywhere this summer, except for Darwin, which is always hot anyway. But even there, Darwin had its cloldest July in 50 years last year, as did Sydney. Of course, one need only look at parts of Queensland and Northern New South Wales. WHERE IS MR FLANNERY AND WHERE IS MR GARNAUT? COME ON, OVER HERE AND EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!!!

Global warming is a hoax targeted at the weak, the fearful, the naive, and the downright stupid.

Damn!, so John Howard, Malcolm Turnbull and Margaret Thatcher - not to mention Roger Scruton, are among the perpetrators of this hoax, together with every Academy of Sciences in the world?

Seems a little far fetched to say that it's a hoax.

All very eminent scientists to be sure.

A thousand politicians lined up nodding their heads doesn't make it so.

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Reply #5 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 2:36pm

matty wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:26am:

Let's look a little closer to home. Australia had its coldest start to summer this year, since 1960. Temperatures have been consistently cold everywhere this summer, except for Darwin, which is always hot anyway. But even there, Darwin had its cloldest July in 50 years last year, as did Sydney. Of course, one need only look at parts of Queensland and Northern New South Wales. WHERE IS MR FLANNERY AND WHERE IS MR GARNAUT? COME ON, OVER HERE AND EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!!!

Global warming is a hoax targeted at the weak, the fearful, the naive, and the downright stupid.

I certainly don't support the AGW hypothesis. Never have.

However, temperatures have not been cold in WA:

"PERTH has sweltered through its hottest January in 34 years, after experiencing its first heat wave this summer.

Last week saw the WA capital record five consecutive days above 37 degrees, marking the hottest January since 1978, according to The Weather Channel, which sources its information from the Australian Bureau of Meteorology."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/perths-hottest-january-in-34-...

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Reply #7 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:12pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 2:18pm:

muso wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 9:24am:

matty wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:26am:

Why are people still peddling this obvious hoax, scare campaign, and blatant lie of global warming? Studies show that it holds no basis in fact whatsoever, and it's also interesting to note that the name was originally the very specific 'global warming', but now has gone to the very generic and broad 'climate change'. Tim Flannery and Ross Garnaut predicted that rain would be a thing of the past. The climate would reach unrelenting and unbearable high temperatues. Well, we've all seen what's happened, haven't we? People freezing to death in Europe with unbearable cold temperatures, and floodings of dams all over the world. Let's look a little closer to home. Australia had its coldest start to summer this year, since 1960. Temperatures have been consistently cold everywhere this summer, except for Darwin, which is always hot anyway. But even there, Darwin had its cloldest July in 50 years last year, as did Sydney. Of course, one need only look at parts of Queensland and Northern New South Wales. WHERE IS MR FLANNERY AND WHERE IS MR GARNAUT? COME ON, OVER HERE AND EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!!!

Global warming is a hoax targeted at the weak, the fearful, the naive, and the downright stupid.

Damn!, so John Howard, Malcolm Turnbull and Margaret Thatcher - not to mention Roger Scruton, are among the perpetrators of this hoax, together with every Academy of Sciences in the world?

Seems a little far fetched to say that it's a hoax.

All very eminent scientists to be sure.

A thousand politicians lined up nodding their heads doesn't make it so.

Good point, so by implication, do you agree that Christopher Monckton and Andrew Bolt, as journos are totally irrelevant and we just need to talk about the science? A thousand journos nodding their heads doesn't make it so either.

By the way, I think you'll find that scientists outnumber politicians by several magnitudes in my last sentence, including Margaret Thatcher of course, as she was a qualified scientist. I just got the impression that you were interested in the opinions of lay persons and fake aristocracy.

Let me go further than that. In science, personal opinions don't count for anything. What counts is the evidence - the validity of the argument.

It doesn't matter if it's the Dalai Lama or the Pope who has an opinion. Everybody has an opinion, they are all different and they all stink. (a bit like something else) Grin

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Re: The myth of global warming.
Reply #8 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:12pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 2:36pm:

matty wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:26am:

Let's look a little closer to home. Australia had its coldest start to summer this year, since 1960. Temperatures have been consistently cold everywhere this summer, except for Darwin, which is always hot anyway. But even there, Darwin had its cloldest July in 50 years last year, as did Sydney. Of course, one need only look at parts of Queensland and Northern New South Wales. WHERE IS MR FLANNERY AND WHERE IS MR GARNAUT? COME ON, OVER HERE AND EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!!!

Global warming is a hoax targeted at the weak, the fearful, the naive, and the downright stupid.

I certainly don't support the AGW hypothesis. Never have.

However, temperatures have not been cold in WA:

"PERTH has sweltered through its hottest January in 34 years, after experiencing its first heat wave this summer.

Last week saw the WA capital record five consecutive days above 37 degrees, marking the hottest January since 1978, according to The Weather Channel, which sources its information from the Australian Bureau of Meteorology."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/perths-hottest-january-in-34-...

I had forgotten what summer was like. On the weekend where I live, it was warm to hot, dont know the exact temperature, but not over 35 im sure. That bldy sun, it was so frigging hot, I could feel my skin burning like someone had a magnifying glass on me. CO2 does not cause that. I cant remember when my skin felt like that or maybe it has and I have forgotten the feeling.

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Reply #9 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:18pm

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

I had forgotten what summer was like. On the weekend where I live, it was warm to hot, dont know the exact temperature, but not over 35 im sure. That bldy sun, it was so frigging hot, I could feel my skin burning like someone had a magnifying glass on me. CO2 does not cause that. I cant remember when my skin felt like that or maybe it has and I have forgotten the feeling.

With no CO2 in the atmosphere, the average global temperature would be around minus 18 degrees C. We'd be living on a solid ball of ice. Those 280 molecules of CO2 for every one million have made life possible here on Earth. Of course it's now up to 393 ppm.

On a totally separate issue, I just heard that the Russians at Vostok Station have finally broken through to Lake Vostok in the Antarctic.

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Reply #10 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 5:01pm

muso wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 9:24am:

matty wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:26am:

Why are people still peddling this obvious hoax, scare campaign, and blatant lie of global warming? Studies show that it holds no basis in fact whatsoever, and it's also interesting to note that the name was originally the very specific 'global warming', but now has gone to the very generic and broad 'climate change'. Tim Flannery and Ross Garnaut predicted that rain would be a thing of the past. The climate would reach unrelenting and unbearable high temperatues. Well, we've all seen what's happened, haven't we? People freezing to death in Europe with unbearable cold temperatures, and floodings of dams all over the world. Let's look a little closer to home. Australia had its coldest start to summer this year, since 1960. Temperatures have been consistently cold everywhere this summer, except for Darwin, which is always hot anyway. But even there, Darwin had its cloldest July in 50 years last year, as did Sydney. Of course, one need only look at parts of Queensland and Northern New South Wales. WHERE IS MR FLANNERY AND WHERE IS MR GARNAUT? COME ON, OVER HERE AND EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!!!

Global warming is a hoax targeted at the weak, the fearful, the naive, and the downright stupid.

Damn!, so John Howard, Malcolm Turnbull and Margaret Thatcher - not to mention Roger Scruton, are among the perpetrators of this hoax, together with every Academy of Sciences in the world?

Seems a little far fetched to say that it's a hoax.

Who the hell is 'Roger Scruton'????

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Reply #11 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 5:47pm

muso wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 9:24am:

matty wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:26am:

Why are people still peddling this obvious hoax, scare campaign, and blatant lie of global warming? Studies show that it holds no basis in fact whatsoever, and it's also interesting to note that the name was originally the very specific 'global warming', but now has gone to the very generic and broad 'climate change'. Tim Flannery and Ross Garnaut predicted that rain would be a thing of the past. The climate would reach unrelenting and unbearable high temperatues. Well, we've all seen what's happened, haven't we? People freezing to death in Europe with unbearable cold temperatures, and floodings of dams all over the world. Let's look a little closer to home. Australia had its coldest start to summer this year, since 1960. Temperatures have been consistently cold everywhere this summer, except for Darwin, which is always hot anyway. But even there, Darwin had its cloldest July in 50 years last year, as did Sydney. Of course, one need only look at parts of Queensland and Northern New South Wales. WHERE IS MR FLANNERY AND WHERE IS MR GARNAUT? COME ON, OVER HERE AND EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!!!

Global warming is a hoax targeted at the weak, the fearful, the naive, and the downright stupid.

Damn!, so John Howard, Malcolm Turnbull and Margaret Thatcher - not to mention Roger Scruton, are among the perpetrators of this hoax, together with every Academy of Sciences in the world?

Seems a little far fetched to say that it's a hoax.

Maybe these guys can help you understand how the prior guys you mentioned, might have got suckered in like any of the climate church followers have been.

German news translated. Circulation of 16million readers. Devoting half of page 2.

“THE CO2 LIES … pure fear-mongering … should we blindly trust the experts?”

http://notrickszone.com/2012/02/06/body-blow-to-german-global-warming-movement-m...

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Reply #13 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 11:30pm

Big Donger wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 9:37pm:

Matty, I understand you have inside information sourced from the Ryde Greens - straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

When will they make the announcement about global warming?

Sounds like Matty has infultrated the ryde greens and turned them into "Climate Conservative Consumers".

Brilliant work Matty. Your powers of persuasion are becoming more honed every day.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: The myth of global warming. Reply #14 - Feb 8^th, 2012 at 8:19am gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 5:01pm: Who the hell is 'Roger Scruton'???? He's one of Soren's crowd - a Conservative philosopher. He writes well. See my thread on Green Philosophy.
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