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Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership
Reply #60 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:49am

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:43am:

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progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:14am:

____ wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:11am:

A democratic one world government.

A democratic world to end communism and fascism

A democratic one world government to end the capitalistic endeavour to enslave humanity via things like monsanto's ~ GM crops ~ to have a world food monopoly.

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 6:05am:

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progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 5:49am:

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progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 5:19am:

I think commie Booby Brown is taken. Besides, he is too busy at the moment, calling Australians sexist and explaining that Howard was treated so nicely.

Commie Bob Brown ?

... only to the hardest of hard, hard righter, could the centre left Greens leader be considered a communist by.

The extreme left greens.

Equality for all, an Australian Bill of Right, Grass root democracy ... extreme left to the hardest of hard righters only.

One world government commie.

If your commie party were serious, they would give out a document so profound, a constitution if you will, that people can read and make up their own mind how water tight it is and how profound it is.

Other than that, it is just commie wishful thinking.

Unlike the hardest of hard right in the old parties to the right, Greens don't dictate. Greens are the architects of thinking new ways and then in conjunction with the People, Greens then move ideas forward.

i.e Marriage Equality ... Very Fast Train ... Lifting Pensioners out of Poverty ... Free Dental ... Lifting the Unemployed ... Bringing our troops home from Afghanistan and so on.

surely even you dont really believ that do you? The greens dont dictate policy??? we have a carbon tax that is hated by the vast majority of voters which exists soley because the Greens dictated it.

Incorrect. We have a Carbon Price because Mr No refused to negotiate with labor and so empowered Greens.

The Carbon Price is Abbott's fault.

that is BEYOND idiotic. what you are saying is that if libs had supported Gillard in her carbon tax then there would be no carbon tax?? even by your lamentable standards, that is stupid.

If Liberals had worked with Labor, Labor would not have been so relient on the Greens.

It is Liberal's fault, Labor relies on Greens' support so much.

if you had backed Labor, there would be no Carbon Tax now.

Shame Liberals, Shame.

It is labors fault for being so blatantly opportunistic and power hungry. It is the greens fault for being so controlling over the majority who dont want them in power or their lame policies.

Liberal's fault because they are acting like spoilt brats and disrespecting the desires of those that voted for them last time.

No wonder there is such a backlash against the way Abbott is doing his job and why Gillard is preferred leader when compared next to Mr Lame Duck Abbott.

Abbott is responsible for the carbon tax. Shame Abbott, Shame.

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Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership
Reply #61 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:51am

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:47am:

____ wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:36am:

You are just pissed because your child like act over Mary Valley Dam has been exploded.

Back to your chalkboard with you and plan something a little more smarter dude.

You have provided NO evidence to back up your claims (again) so this churlish behaviour is what you end up resorting to.

You are a liar and stooge, everything you say is greens party spin.

But I do like your use of greens party secret agents (GAYSIO) to avoid providing any evidence or substance to your argument; it's like arguing with a 5 yr old. Grin

And you had no evidence for you claim concerning Greens supporting the Mary River Dam.

and in another posters words ...

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Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership
Reply #62 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 11:00am

____ wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:51am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:47am:

____ wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:36am:

You are just pissed because your child like act over Mary Valley Dam has been exploded.

Back to your chalkboard with you and plan something a little more smarter dude.

You have provided NO evidence to back up your claims (again) so this churlish behaviour is what you end up resorting to.

You are a liar and stooge, everything you say is greens party spin.

But I do like your use of greens party secret agents (GAYSIO) to avoid providing any evidence or substance to your argument; it's like arguing with a 5 yr old. Grin

And you had no evidence for you claim concerning Greens supporting the Mary River Dam.

and in another posters words ...

NEXT

What? Is english your second language

I shown on countless occasions where the greens supported labor to win the QLD election through preferencing and that they did so, KNOWING that to do so would see the destruction of the Mary Valley and its endagered species.

I get that you're not very bright and Im trying to accomodate that, but you have definitely shifted down a gear. Grin

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Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership
Reply #63 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 11:14am

They greens always had the power to stop the dam going ahaed but chose politics over the environment.

Labor has secured Greens preferences in 14 seats for the Queensland election on March 21, boosting the government's chances of holding on to key seats.

But the ALP says it's disappointed the environmental party did not give it stronger support.

The state's sole Greens MP Ronan Lee, who defected from Labor last year, will receive Labor preferences but won't be preferencing Labor, Greens campaign spokesman Drew Hutton said on Thursday.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/labor-sees-red-over-greens-preferences/2009/03/12/1236447382454.html

And what happend to ronan lee? That's right sacked by the voters of QLD, we don't trust scumbag liars.

Nationals Leader, Warren Truss, says The Greens have the power to stop the Traveston Crossing dam by ditching any future preference deals with Labor until the dam is scrapped by Premier Anna Bligh.
Greens Leader Bob Brown has described the proposed dam as "the most damaging project that's conceivable", even though it was Green preferences to Labor in the recent Queensland election that allowed Labor to form government and for the dam to proceed.

"If Senator Brown is sincere in his comments, he has the political power to stop the dam now by telling Anna Bligh and Kevin Rudd that The Greens will not entertain any preference deal with the Labor Party until they axe the dam," Mr Truss said.

"Anna Bligh does not care about the environment, but she and Mr Rudd do care about votes.

http://qcl.farmonline.com.au/news/state/agribusiness-and-general/general/greens-have-power-to-stop-the-traveston-dam-now-truss/1624018.aspx

They had a choice between the environment and politics and they were NEVER going to side with the environment, were they

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Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership
Reply #64 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:03pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 11:00am:

____ wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:51am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:47am:

____ wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:36am:

You are just pissed because your child like act over Mary Valley Dam has been exploded.

Back to your chalkboard with you and plan something a little more smarter dude.

You have provided NO evidence to back up your claims (again) so this churlish behaviour is what you end up resorting to.

You are a liar and stooge, everything you say is greens party spin.

But I do like your use of greens party secret agents (GAYSIO) to avoid providing any evidence or substance to your argument; it's like arguing with a 5 yr old. Grin

And you had no evidence for you claim concerning Greens supporting the Mary River Dam.

and in another posters words ...

NEXT

What? Is english your second language

I shown on countless occasions where the greens supported labor to win the QLD election through preferencing and that they did so, KNOWING that to do so would see the destruction of the Mary Valley and its endagered species.

I get that you're not very bright and Im trying to accomodate that, but you have definitely shifted down a gear. Grin

All you have done is pretended that The Greens preferences reflect total support of all of Labor policies.

Wrong.

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Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership
Reply #65 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:46pm

____ wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 11:00am:

____ wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:51am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:47am:

____ wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:36am:

You are just pissed because your child like act over Mary Valley Dam has been exploded.

Back to your chalkboard with you and plan something a little more smarter dude.

You have provided NO evidence to back up your claims (again) so this churlish behaviour is what you end up resorting to.

You are a liar and stooge, everything you say is greens party spin.

But I do like your use of greens party secret agents (GAYSIO) to avoid providing any evidence or substance to your argument; it's like arguing with a 5 yr old. Grin

And you had no evidence for you claim concerning Greens supporting the Mary River Dam.

and in another posters words ...

NEXT

What? Is english your second language

I shown on countless occasions where the greens supported labor to win the QLD election through preferencing and that they did so, KNOWING that to do so would see the destruction of the Mary Valley and its endangered species.

I get that you're not very bright and I'm trying to accommodate that, but you have definitely shifted down a gear. Grin

All you have done is pretended that The Greens preferences reflect total support of all of Labor policies.

Wrong.

So in the eyes of the greens, ensuring a party wins the election by providing preferences in 14 critically important seats is NOT support.

If that's how they don't support another party then I'd like to see what happens when they do support labor. Preferences and a reach around?

They could have defended the Mary Valley, they did not, regardless of all the wank words you and the greens want to use; you FAILED the Mary valley and the greens can never be trusted again.

You have a pretty retarded outlook on how politics works, but it certainly explains a whole heap of your posts.

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Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership
Reply #66 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:52pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:46pm:

____ wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 11:00am:

____ wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:51am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:47am:

____ wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:36am:

You are just pissed because your child like act over Mary Valley Dam has been exploded.

Back to your chalkboard with you and plan something a little more smarter dude.

You have provided NO evidence to back up your claims (again) so this churlish behaviour is what you end up resorting to.

You are a liar and stooge, everything you say is greens party spin.

But I do like your use of greens party secret agents (GAYSIO) to avoid providing any evidence or substance to your argument; it's like arguing with a 5 yr old. Grin

And you had no evidence for you claim concerning Greens supporting the Mary River Dam.

and in another posters words ...

NEXT

What? Is english your second language

I shown on countless occasions where the greens supported labor to win the QLD election through preferencing and that they did so, KNOWING that to do so would see the destruction of the Mary Valley and its endangered species.

I get that you're not very bright and I'm trying to accommodate that, but you have definitely shifted down a gear. Grin

All you have done is pretended that The Greens preferences reflect total support of all of Labor policies.

Wrong.

So in the eyes of the greens, ensuring a party wins the election by providing preferences in 14 critically important seats is NOT support.

If that's how they don't support another party then I'd like to see what happens when they do support labor. Preferences and a reach around?

They could have defended the Mary Valley, they did not, regardless of all the wank words you and the greens want to use; you FAILED the Mary valley and the greens can never be trusted again.

You have a pretty retarded outlook on how politics works, but it certainly explains a whole heap of your posts.

Greens achieved their aims ... this is sour grapes on your part because you have to create fiction to try and throw mud.

Greens weighted up both sides on all their policies and Labor was better overall and Greens realised Mary Valley could be saved even if Labor won the election ... and as you know, Greens' reasoning was proven correct again.

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Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership
Reply #67 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:15pm

____ wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:52pm:

Greens achieved their aims ... this is sour grapes on your part because you have to create fiction to try and throw mud.

Greens weighted up both sides on all their policies and Labor was better overall and Greens realised Mary Valley could be saved even if Labor won the election ... and as you know, Greens' reasoning was proven correct again.

There's that little again, the greens did not know because both state and federal labor did not know, so stop trying to bullsh1t your way out.

As far as realising that labor was a better option for QLD, it has been an unmitigated disaster, so thanks for that little gem.

The next election is coming soon and there will be no labor government and the greens will be relegated back into political irrelevance; reckon your GAYSIO spies have already told you that. Grin

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Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership
Reply #68 - Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:32pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 1:15pm:

____ wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 12:52pm:

Greens achieved their aims ... this is sour grapes on your part because you have to create fiction to try and throw mud.

Greens weighted up both sides on all their policies and Labor was better overall and Greens realised Mary Valley could be saved even if Labor won the election ... and as you know, Greens' reasoning was proven correct again.

There's that little again, the greens did not know because both state and federal labor did not know, so stop trying to bullsh1t your way out.

As far as realising that labor was a better option for QLD, it has been an unmitigated disaster, so thanks for that little gem.

The next election is coming soon and there will be no labor government and the greens will be relegated back into political irrelevance; reckon your GAYSIO spies have already told you that. Grin

And Queensland will go down the drain faster ... like Vic and NSW are, since the right has taken over.

The other thing not mentioned by anyone, that I have noticed ... as States fall to the Hard Right, this decreases the chances of the hard right winning the next federal election. Australians don't give any party control of all parliaments.

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Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership
Reply #69 - Feb 8^th, 2012 at 11:01am

Prime Minister Bob Green of the Communist Browns has brownout over despair at losing his power when Kevin takes over !!!!!

Uncle Bob is supporting the lying Miss Gillard by saying Miss Gillard is dumb and stupid because MISS GILLARD IS NOT A MAN !!!!!

Column - Brown’s sexist defence
Andrew Bolt Wednesday, February 08, 2012 at 07:02am

BOB Brown is trying everything to save his meal ticket - like making himself look stupid and deceitful.

Stupid is the Green leader’s claim that “quite a bit of the criticism (of Prime Minister Julia Gillard) is sexist and unfair”, particularly the “relentless” criticism from “male commentators”.

But here’s the odd thing. Some of those “relentless” male critics - including me and broadcaster Alan Jones - were almost Gillard admirers not two years ago.

Jones told the then-deputy PM on air: “We’ve got the wrong person running the country.” And, blush, I even confessed to “a secret passion for Julia Gillard”.

Were we sexist when we praised her then, or sexist now we don’t?

And here’s another odd thing: commentators such as Miranda Devine, Janet Albrechtsen and Judith Sloan are no less hard than men on the PM and on the same issues that make this criticism richly deserved - the broken promises, dirty tricks and scandals.

So why are men sexist for saying the same as women? Is Brown being sexist?

Then there’s Brown’s deceit. On Monday he denied what he’d said about Gillard breaking her word to end logging in parts of Tasmania.

On January 11, he’d said she’d broken an “absolute commitment”. On January 13, he insisted “there is a breach of honour involved here by the Prime Minister”.

On January 16, he accused Gillard of using dodgy “statistics to justify her own renege on the promise”.

Yet on Monday, with Gillard in desperate danger of being toppled by the less Greens-friendly Kevin Rudd, Brown changed his story.

Now he said the forest deal had been “betrayed by Forestry Tasmania”.

Now it was not Gillard who had to act, but “the Premier of Tasmania, Lara Giddings, (who) needs to bring them back into control”.

It seems to me from all this that Brown fabricated his angry split with Gillard to make him seem more pure and Gillard more independent. Win, win ...

But now that he risks losing his pliant PM, he’s cleared Gillard of all charges. Now such accusations - which he himself once laid - are just “sexist”. Heaven spare us such frauds.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/colum...

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