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Reply #60 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 11:22am

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 10:28am:

Why do they let two unqualified wordsmiths debate each other and somehow call that a credible debate ?? Just a whole lot of meaningless drivel Sad

It is not meaningless when you get a site like skeptic science try to shred Monkton bit by bit with as much time as they need, only to find they failed.

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Reply #61 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 11:25am

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 10:28am:

Why do they let two unqualified wordsmiths debate each other and somehow call that a credible debate ?? Just a whole lot of meaningless drivel Sad

Well there's not much point putting a layman (from either side) up against a scientist in a debate is there??

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Reply #62 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:38pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 11:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 10:28am:

Why do they let two unqualified wordsmiths debate each other and somehow call that a credible debate ?? Just a whole lot of meaningless drivel Sad

Well there's not much point putting a layman (from either side) up against a scientist in a debate is there??

Why ? Is this just a pointless side show that proves absolutely nothing and then pays idiots to talk more sh.t ??

Since Lord Monkey seems know everything about the subject why not put him up against an authority in this field ??

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Reply #63 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:41pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 11:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 10:28am:

Why do they let two unqualified wordsmiths debate each other and somehow call that a credible debate ?? Just a whole lot of meaningless drivel Sad

Well there's not much point putting a layman (from either side) up against a scientist in a debate is there??

Why ? Is this just a pointless side show that proves absolutely nothing and then pays idiots to talk more sh.t ??

Since Lord Monkey seems know everything about the subject why not put him up against an authority in this field ??

Because the 'authorities' in the field won't take him on...even Al Gore (who isn't an 'authority' won't agree to a public debate)....So he's left with the likes of Dr Denniss....Even Dr Flannery refused to debate Lord Monckton...

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Reply #64 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:44pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:41pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 11:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 10:28am:

Why do they let two unqualified wordsmiths debate each other and somehow call that a credible debate ?? Just a whole lot of meaningless drivel Sad

Well there's not much point putting a layman (from either side) up against a scientist in a debate is there??

Why ? Is this just a pointless side show that proves absolutely nothing and then pays idiots to talk more sh.t ??

Since Lord Monkey seems know everything about the subject why not put him up against an authority in this field ??

Because the 'authorities' in the field won't take him on...even Al Gore (who isn't an 'authority' won't agree to a public debate)....So he's left with the likes of Dr Denniss....Even Dr Flannery refused to debate Lord Monckton...

Is that an exhaustive list of authorities who will not take him on or are you just generalizing and talking more sh.t as usual ?

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Reply #65 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:59pm

NBNMyths....Go back and read Lord Monckton's C.V. i have posted.

There is nothing at all wrong with his qualifications. He is an acknowledged Maths genius. It took the best mathematicians in the world 18 months to solve his Eternity Puzzle.

He has lectured at many of the great Universities in the World...(no...you look them up...I take it you do have Google?)

He was a top advisor to the successful Thatcher Government.

What do you want NBNmyths?...blood?

Finally he has enlisted some of the most enlightened scientists in the world to put this Climate Change bulls....t, under where it belongs. It is total crap!

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Reply #66 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 2:11pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:44pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:41pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 11:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 10:28am:

Why do they let two unqualified wordsmiths debate each other and somehow call that a credible debate ?? Just a whole lot of meaningless drivel Sad

Well there's not much point putting a layman (from either side) up against a scientist in a debate is there??

Why ? Is this just a pointless side show that proves absolutely nothing and then pays idiots to talk more sh.t ??

Since Lord Monkey seems know everything about the subject why not put him up against an authority in this field ??

Because the 'authorities' in the field won't take him on...even Al Gore (who isn't an 'authority' won't agree to a public debate)....So he's left with the likes of Dr Denniss....Even Dr Flannery refused to debate Lord Monckton...

Is that an exhaustive list of authorities who will not take him on or are you just generalizing and talking more sh.t as usual ?

Not talking sh1t...there IS a list....Al Gore is at the top...as are several others......Mike Mann, Phil Jones etc...I'd have to check to see who Lord Chris has asked, and who's refused....I know for certain that Dr Tim Flannery refused, which is why Dr Denniss was at the Press Club debate...

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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: Remember Monkton televised debate with Dr. Denniss Reply #67 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 3:27pm I think it was galaxy research who declared Monkton the winner. He was great in that debate.
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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14248 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Remember Monkton televised debate with Dr. Denniss Reply #68 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 3:48pm *Craig Reucassel interviews comedy genius Sacha Baron Cohen in character as his latest creation: climate skeptic Lord Christopher Monckton.* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCItkkwuviE
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Reply #69 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 4:33pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 2:11pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:44pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:41pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 11:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 10:28am:

Why do they let two unqualified wordsmiths debate each other and somehow call that a credible debate ?? Just a whole lot of meaningless drivel Sad

Well there's not much point putting a layman (from either side) up against a scientist in a debate is there??

Why ? Is this just a pointless side show that proves absolutely nothing and then pays idiots to talk more sh.t ??

Since Lord Monkey seems know everything about the subject why not put him up against an authority in this field ??

Because the 'authorities' in the field won't take him on...even Al Gore (who isn't an 'authority' won't agree to a public debate)....So he's left with the likes of Dr Denniss....Even Dr Flannery refused to debate Lord Monckton...

Is that an exhaustive list of authorities who will not take him on or are you just generalizing and talking more sh.t as usual ?

Not talking sh1t...there IS a list....Al Gore is at the top...as are several others......Mike Mann, Phil Jones etc...I'd have to check to see who Lord Chris has asked, and who's refused....I know for certain that Dr Tim Flannery refused, which is why Dr Denniss was at the Press Club debate...

Is that all ?? Just a handful of people Cheesy

And I always thought that Al-Gore WAS NOT an authority on the subject. He is just the messenger who has put together a documentary in order to encourage discussion. I can understand why people with authority on a subject would not want to debate an idiot. You should never and try an argue with an idiot or you will lose.

Maybe you should see the "The great global warming swindle" get ripped to shreds by people with AUTHORITY on the subject. Why doesn't Monkey debate some of these dudes ??

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Reply #70 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 5:17pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 3:48pm:

Craig Reucassel interviews comedy genius Sacha Baron Cohen in character as his latest creation: climate skeptic Lord Christopher Monckton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCItkkwuviE

It's sad that you AGW wankers think that Lord Monckton is a Sacha Baron Cohen character...

What a wank...

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Reply #71 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 5:23pm

buzzanddidj, Immensely enjoyed your posts on Lord Christopher Monckton! Absolutely fabulous send up his medical condition - Grays Disease, which by the by he fought with absolute courageousness.

Pperhaps if you get cancer, you could drop us a line so I can do an absolute hoot of a send up, about how you are hilariously coping with your disease.

Oh sorry fellas, there a couple of guys just walked passed looking for something you dropped. Let me look closer...They've got 'Elephant Trainer', written on the back of their coats and their carrying buckets...Let me see oh yes it reads - poo. Now they're scooping up you posts on Lord Monckton and putting them in the buckets!

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Reply #73 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 8:15pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 7:38pm:

A little Irish man once told me.....

"Never argue with an idiot because onlookers cannot tell the difference"

Enough said!!!

In this case it would be "if you have a pretend climate science web site, don't attempt to belittle a person who used science, you may just get found out for being an alarmist with no knowledge at all".

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Reply #74 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 8:19pm

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 8:15pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 7:38pm:

A little Irish man once told me.....

"Never argue with an idiot because onlookers cannot tell the difference"

Enough said!!!

In this case it would be "if you have a pretend climate science web site, don't attempt to belittle a person who used science, you may just get found out for being an alarmist with no knowledge at all".

I am not arguing!!!

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