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Reply #45 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 11:02am

cods wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:48am:

Cods, here is some wisdom from Christopher Skase (who was not quite in the same league as Christopher Monckton). Monckton is a much more skilled con-man :

sorry muso not with that at all...

however a con man is only as good as the fools that believe them dont you think those that get ripped off should accept some of the blame?????

I disagree about Monkton...

gillard also told us we wouldnt have a CARBON TAX.. does that make her a con women????..

this debate on climate change human caused.. is very subjective.. to me its all about COMMONSENSE though I find today commonsense is a rare gift and it certainly isnt taught anywhere that I know of.

and I find when it comes down to only personal attacks..like calling someone a conman.. well that to me says a lot about the accuser.

Monckton has not problem attacking other people who disagree with him such as his attack on Tim Flannery which says a lot about the double standards he practices.....If Monckton can provide peer reviewed evidence to support his claims I will listen to him.....Until then there is a reason he is not taken seriously by the scientific community.....No one is stopping him from backing up his claims with proof and subjecting it to peer review accept himself!!!

Think about it....It will take a while to sink in for some people!!!

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http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/debunking-the-bunkum-of-that-dopey-Monckton/

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Remember Monkton televised debate with Dr. Denniss Reply #46 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 11:08am TIM FLANNERY deserves all he got and more from Lord Monckton. If we were top believe this goose FLANNERY we would be putting plastic bags over gums trees to get a drink of water by now. He is the ultimate charlatan's charlatan. His opinion isn;t worth the ink he takes to write it.
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Reply #47 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 1:00pm

red baron wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

TIM FLANNERY deserves all he got and more from Lord Monckton. If we were top believe this goose FLANNERY we would be putting plastic bags over gums trees to get a drink of water by now.

He is the ultimate charlatan's charlatan. His opinion isn;t worth the ink he takes to write it.

Comparing Tim Flannery to the NAZIS was just plain stupid.....What ever you think of Flannery accepting that sort of attack was justified says something about your lack of character mate....Even Monckton realized very quickly he has over stepped the line.....you are not that smart!!!

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Re: Remember Monkton televised debate with Dr. Denniss
Reply #48 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 1:25pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 1:00pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

TIM FLANNERY deserves all he got and more from Lord Monckton. If we were top believe this goose FLANNERY we would be putting plastic bags over gums trees to get a drink of water by now.

He is the ultimate charlatan's charlatan. His opinion isn;t worth the ink he takes to write it.

Comparing Tim Flannery to the NAZIS was just plain stupid.....What ever you think of Flannery accepting that sort of attack was justified says something about your lack of character mate....Even Monckton realized very quickly he has over stepped the line.....you are not that smart!!!

While I have no time for Monckton, Flannery is supporting the attempted implementation of a dictatorship through global warming ideology, I dont know whether you want to call it Communism or Fascism and i dont care, it amounts to the same thing - its the same political class violating the sovereignty of the people through political repression. Cool

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Reply #49 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 4:12pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 1:25pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 1:00pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

TIM FLANNERY deserves all he got and more from Lord Monckton. If we were top believe this goose FLANNERY we would be putting plastic bags over gums trees to get a drink of water by now.

He is the ultimate charlatan's charlatan. His opinion isn;t worth the ink he takes to write it.

Comparing Tim Flannery to the NAZIS was just plain stupid.....What ever you think of Flannery accepting that sort of attack was justified says something about your lack of character mate....Even Monckton realized very quickly he has over stepped the line.....you are not that smart!!!

While I have no time for Monckton, Flannery is supporting the attempted implementation of a dictatorship through global warming ideology, I dont know whether you want to call it Communism or Fascism and i dont care, it amounts to the same thing - its the same political class violating the sovereignty of the people through political repression. Cool

I don't usually respond to crack pots however both the Coalition and ALP agree action needs to be taken on Climate Change so this is not in dispute.....It is the mechanism used to meet our targets that should be debated not some conspiracy theory that is being proclaimed by fruit loops.....Doing nothing is not a policy being proposed by anyone in Australian politics!!!

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Re: Remember Monkton televised debate with Dr. Denniss
Reply #50 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 4:53pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 1:00pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

TIM FLANNERY deserves all he got and more from Lord Monckton. If we were top believe this goose FLANNERY we would be putting plastic bags over gums trees to get a drink of water by now.

He is the ultimate charlatan's charlatan. His opinion isn;t worth the ink he takes to write it.

Comparing Tim Flannery to the NAZIS was just plain stupid.....What ever you think of Flannery accepting that sort of attack was justified says something about your lack of character mate....Even Monckton realized very quickly he has over stepped the line.....you are not that smart!!!

well saying There will be no CARBON TAX on my watch... was also stupid...dont you think??..

we all say dumb things.. and wish we hadnt... when we do it in anger or frustration thats one thing.. but when we do it deliberately before an election its unforgivable.

as for Flannery he has too many WRONG predictions to his.. huhum credit!!! to be really taken seriously.

I am still betting on mother nature myself... I wonder how many others have taken that slant since all this codswallop started.. Grin

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Reply #52 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 7:01pm

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Re: Remember Monkton televised debate with Dr. Denniss
Reply #53 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 7:02pm

red baron wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

TIM FLANNERY deserves all he got and more from Lord Monckton. If we were top believe this goose FLANNERY we would be putting plastic bags over gums trees to get a drink of water by now.

He is the ultimate charlatan's charlatan. His opinion isn;t worth the ink he takes to write it.

slaves have No choices!!

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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14248 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Remember Monkton televised debate with Dr. Denniss Reply #54 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 7:08pm red baron wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 7:25am: You need to get up early in the morning if you want to smoke the Red Baron. *Is that a euphanism ?*
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Re: Remember Monkton televised debate with Dr. Denniss
Reply #55 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 6:40am

NBNMyths wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 6:36pm:

I'll just leave this here:

http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/07/20/denniss-my-tactics-for-debating-monckton/

We already saw the debate and the failure of deniss to make much sense of anything apart from insurance.

We have also seen cook have ample time to rip monkton apart piece by piece.

No we have had monkton give a scientific serve to cook and gave cook a lesson.

People have had ample time to rip monkton apart and thought that website skeptic science had done it, but monkton still comes up on top.

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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: Remember Monkton televised debate with Dr. Denniss Reply #56 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 8:18am Famed climate change denier Lord Christopher Monckton, an advisor to former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, has been outed as the construct of none other than character comedian Sacha Baron Cohen.
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Reply #57 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 9:26am

cods wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:48am:

Cods, here is some wisdom from Christopher Skase (who was not quite in the same league as Christopher Monckton). Monckton is a much more skilled con-man :

sorry muso not with that at all...

however a con man is only as good as the fools that believe them dont you think those that get ripped off should accept some of the blame?????

I disagree about Monkton...

gillard also told us we wouldnt have a CARBON TAX.. does that make her a con women????..

this debate on climate change human caused.. is very subjective.. to me its all about COMMONSENSE though I find today commonsense is a rare gift and it certainly isnt taught anywhere that I know of.

and I find when it comes down to only personal attacks..like calling someone a conman.. well that to me says a lot about the accuser.

I usually call a spade a spade. Ivan Milat and Christopher Monckton are very similar characters, except that Monckton will kill a lot more people by induced complacency. I make no apologies for that.

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Re: Remember Monkton televised debate with Dr. Denniss
Reply #58 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 9:28am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 8:18am:

Famed climate change denier Lord Christopher Monckton, an advisor to former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, has been outed as the construct of none other than character comedian Sacha Baron Cohen.

Really? - I thought he was more of a Les Paterson clone.

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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30923 Gender:	Re: Remember Monkton televised debate with Dr. Denniss Reply #59 - Feb 6^th, 2012 at 10:28am Why do they let two unqualified wordsmiths debate each other and somehow call that a credible debate ?? Just a whole lot of meaningless drivel
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