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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Remember Monkton televised debate with Dr. Denniss Reply #30 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 4:28pm One thing that been proven time and time again is that he is not only paid by the likes of Gina and Twiggy to pedal his fanciful denialist rubbish in Australia but he is also an habitual liar.
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Reply #31 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 4:52pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:25pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:36pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:15pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:12pm:

Do any of his dwindling bunch of disciples know if he is still claiming to be a member of the House of Lords and Nobel Prize winner ?

Well you would have to prove him to be incorrect first. I know following your bunch of extremists can be both fun and easy, but surely you should get some integrity and prove Monkton wrong.

Nothing HERE ?

http://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/lords/

Nor HERE

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/lists/all/all_laureates_c.html

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I'M not the one with "integrity" issues
I'VE never written myself a FAKE biography in order to be taken seriously

... and progressiveslol has "left the building"

I did go watch a movie and may go watch another. There doesn't seem to be much here in the debate about the science Monkton presents nor any real refutation of his lordship. Just hatred and that is good. Because the man must be doing something right, even though his science is right, but must be doing something right to get all the lefty hatred... and I love it.

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Reply #32 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 5:04pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:12pm:

Do any of his dwindling bunch of disciples know if he is STILL claiming to be a member of the House of Lords and Nobel Prize winner ?

As everyone knows, Monckton himself has never made a 'claim' to be a Nobel prize winner in seriousness...
The 'prize' was given as a joke, by an Emeritus Professor of Physics...
It is based on the awarding of the Nobel prize to some members of the IPCC...since Lord Monckton pointed out an error in the work (which the IPCC staff corrected) that won them the Nobel, he ( Monckton) should have been included, so some physicists made him a joke one......No more to be taken seriously than prizes awarded at club functions....

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Reply #33 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 5:19pm

You simply have to see this video to believe it.

This week mining billionaire Gina Rinehart became the largest shareholder in Fairfax, having already bought a stake in Channel Ten. But this new video reveals this move is bigger than one woman’s ambition – it’s part of a coordinated and very deliberate strategy, with climate skeptic ‘Lord’ Monkton seen here advising a room full of mining executives on how the industry must gain control of Australia’s media.

Monckton speaks to mining industry

https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/mining/monckton/monckton-speaks-to-mining-ind...

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #34 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 7:00pm

red baron wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:48pm:

Buzzanddiddj

You asked what qualifications does Lord Monckton have?

Lord Fraud Christopher Walter Monckton 3rd Viscount of Brenchley.

Edcation: Harrow School and Churchill College, Cambridge. BA/MA(Cambs.) in classics. Dilpoma Journalism University College Cardiff.

That's it. His only qualifications are a BA in classic literature and a diploma from a Journo college!!??. Not exactly a doctorate in anything remotely environmental/climate/weather/science related, is it?

No wonder he's good at telling stories.

Maybe we should start asking all those with BAs and night school diplomas to take the lead in all future scientific disciplines? I'm sure NASA could recruit a few to design their next rocket. Probably much cheaper than those pesky physicists, who are only in it for the money. Cheesy

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Gifted Mathematician, invented 'The Eternity Puzzle' which sold over 500,000 units. He offered a million pounds for the first to solve it.

Worked as a journalist on many newspapers joined London Evening Standard as lead writer 1982.

Recruited by the Conservative Party as a Senior Policy Advisor to Margaret Thatcher Government in the 1980's.

Senior Policy Advisor to the Climate Change Scientific Denialism bodies throughout the world who have stood against the greatest hoax ever played out in the modern era.

Those aren't qualifications. They're claims. And apparently dubious ones, at that.

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Reply #35 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 7:16pm

I watched the other movie, now being real lazy today and watching the all stars rugby league.

Now I guess as skeptical science couldnt even use science (well an attempt I suppose you would call it)against what Monkton said, then it would be unfair to expect anything other than the pure hatred we see here from each and every lefty.

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Reply #36 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 7:25am

You need to get up early in the morning if you want to smoke the Red Baron. I'll bet you are still either in bed or struggling through breakfast.

Comments of Monckton's qualifications are irrelevant. What is relevant is the truth in his message that the Climate Change Industry is the biggest load of crap ever foisted on a gullible world by Global Interests.

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Reply #37 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 7:36am

red baron wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 7:25am:

You need to get up early in the morning if you want to smoke the Red Baron. I'll bet you are still either in bed or struggling through breakfast.

Comments of Monckton's qualifications are irrelevant. What is relevant is the truth in his message that the Climate Change Industry is the biggest load of crap ever foisted on a gullible world by Global Interests.

You're the one you touted his "qualifications" in the first place! Once it's revealed that he doesn't actually have any, you say it doesn't matter.

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Reply #38 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:05am

personally I believe we should listen to everyone.

instead of criticizing..and name calling... listen to all sides..and then make up your minds..

from what I see and read.. people are doing the reverse.. making up their minds then only agreeing with those of like thinking..

too many scientist have been wrong in the past... they are human and more techo becomes available to prove or disprove a point..

its nothing to be ashamed of to be wrong..

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Reply #39 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:09am

cods wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:05am:

personally I believe we should listen to everyone.

instead of criticizing..and name calling... listen to all sides..and then make up your minds..

from what I see and read.. people are doing the reverse.. making up their minds then only agreeing with those of like thinking..

too many scientist have been wrong in the past... they are human and more techo becomes available to prove or disprove a point..

its nothing to be ashamed of to be wrong..

It doesn't help when you have people who have been deceived by their masters but would still die for them.

NASA's Hansen stands accused of 'blatant scientific fraud': 'Before Hansen tampered with data, temps in 1880s were nearly as warm in US as they were in 1990s'
http://www.real-science.com/giss-temperature-trend-complete-garbage

Climategate 1 and 2 as well.

Mann of the mann made climate change, cant even give details on how he came about the hockey stick. I am sorry, but the dog ate my homework.

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perceptions_now Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11694 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Remember Monkton televised debate with Dr. Denniss Reply #40 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:34am Well, Lord Monkton makes a good living from it, so he is happy!
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Reply #41 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:37am

red baron wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 7:25am:

Comments of Monckton's qualifications are irrelevant. What is relevant is

- that he has lied (not just once) about being a member of the House of Lords. Anyone who is a compulsive liar like that obviously cannot be trusted.

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personally I believe we should listen to everyone.

ok Cods, here is some wisdom from Christopher Skase (who was not quite in the same league as Christopher Monckton). Monckton is a much more skilled con-man :

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losing my Australian citizenship was similar to throwing away a pair of smelly socks

Now do you want to know what Ivan Milat thinks too?

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Reply #42 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:42am

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:09am:

cods wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:05am:

personally I believe we should listen to everyone.

instead of criticizing..and name calling... listen to all sides..and then make up your minds..

from what I see and read.. people are doing the reverse.. making up their minds then only agreeing with those of like thinking..

too many scientist have been wrong in the past... they are human and more techo becomes available to prove or disprove a point..

its nothing to be ashamed of to be wrong..

It doesn't help when you have people who have been deceived by their masters but would still die for them.

NASA's Hansen stands accused of 'blatant scientific fraud': 'Before Hansen tampered with data, temps in 1880s were nearly as warm in US as they were in 1990s'
http://www.real-science.com/giss-temperature-trend-complete-garbage

Climategate 1 and 2 as well.

Mann of the mann made climate change, cant even give details on how he came about the hockey stick. I am sorry, but the dog ate my homework.

since time began scientist have told untruths..

they are brilliant by my standards anyway but they are still human..

I have seen too many time scientist change their minds after telling us something for 20 years..they are usually only small things.. like salt is bad for you...but at the end of the day.. BIG stuff like climate change will be no different..

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Reply #43 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:44am

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:34am:

Well, Lord Monkton makes a good living from it, so he is happy!

I am pretty sure he is and hope he is. After all, he surely is gaining strength from lefty haters and hopefully someone is paying him as there are no government grants for anything other than pseudo science in climate change.

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Reply #44 - Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:48am

Cods, here is some wisdom from Christopher Skase (who was not quite in the same league as Christopher Monckton). Monckton is a much more skilled con-man :

sorry muso not with that at all...

however a con man is only as good as the fools that believe them dont you think those that get ripped off should accept some of the blame?????

I disagree about Monkton...

gillard also told us we wouldnt have a CARBON TAX.. does that make her a con women????..

this debate on climate change human caused.. is very subjective.. to me its all about COMMONSENSE though I find today commonsense is a rare gift and it certainly isnt taught anywhere that I know of.

and I find when it comes down to only personal attacks..like calling someone a conman.. well that to me says a lot about the accuser.

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