Less tax revenue = Less government services
Less government services = higher prices in private sector.
Higher private sector costs = more outgoings of pay packet to cover cost once covered with a small amount of taxation.

Name just 1 thing that has been taken over from government by the private sector that is now cheaper.
Name one thing that is even run better.

Interesting that whilst Qantas announce additional cost because of the carbon tax -

Chinese airlines have dictated to the EU that they will ignore their carbon tax surcharge and not pay it.

Didn't Australian politicians say that this carbon tax will make China think its a good idea to bring one in and change their ways??

Gee I never saw this one coming.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 12:01pm:

Lol, business is business!

You should know this!!

 

I notice a number of topics have been moved to general discussion?

Is the political connection here that Qantas is making decisions for political reasons?

I Don't see how commercial decision on pricing because of european carbon pricing and petrol costs has an Australian political relivance.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am:


Yeah, good luck with that. What do you think China Air will do when the EU tells them they can't land their planes in the EU until they stump up some cash?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 11:17am:


Me too. The EU - and their hand will look something like this to the Chinese:

This is the sort of madness these crackpot carbon emissions schemes bring.....


China’s airlines will refuse to pay any carbon costs under the European Union’s Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS), while other Asia Pacific carriers, already battling a weak travel market, are likely to pass on the extra cost to passengers.

The EU’s scheme was launched in 2005 as one of the major pillars of the bloc’s efforts to combat climate change. From Jan. 1, all airlines using EU airports are included in the cap-and-trade scheme.

“China will not cooperate with the European Union on the ETS, so Chinese airlines will not impose surcharges on customers relating to the emissions tax,” Cai Haibo, deputy secretary-general of the China Air Transport Association (CATA), told Reuters by telephone on Wednesday.

CATA represents the country’s four major airlines: flag-carrier Air China Ltd, China Southern Airlines, China Eastern Airlines and Hainan Airlines.

A European Commission spokeswoman had no immediate comment on any refusal by China’s airlines to pay.

EU law makes a provision to enforce fines of 100 euros for each tonne of carbon dioxide emitted for which airlines have not surrendered carbon allowances.

In the event airlines persistently flout the EU law, the Commission has the option of banning an aircraft operator.

Immediately after a December ruling from Europe’s highest court that inclusion of airlines in the ETS was valid, China’s state-run Xinhua news agency warned of a trade war, although the foreign ministry later stated its opposition less stridently and called on the EU to talk to other governments.

The United States has also warned of possible retaliation, while a draft law in the U.S. Congress proposes to make it illegal to comply with the EU legislation.

Chinese airlines will consider taking legal action against the EU in response to its charges for carbon emissions on flights to and from Europe, Cai said.

But they will not rush into this, he added, mindful that U.S. airlines in December lost their legal challenge against the ETS and given that collection of the carbon cost from airlines will not be until March 2013.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 11:28am:


Pissing off the bloke that buys a big chunk of your product. There's a way to do well in life....