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Reply #360 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:53pm

Ancestry of Australian population

For generations, the vast majority of both colonial-era settlers and post-Federation immigrants came from the United Kingdom and Ireland, although the gold rushes also drew migrants from other countries. Since the end of World War II, Australia's population more than doubled, spurred by large-scale European immigration during the immediate post-war decades. At this time, the White Australia Policy discouraged non-European immigration.

Abolition of the White Australia Policy in the mid-1970s led to a significant increase in non-European immigration, mostly from Asia and the Middle East. About 90% of Australia's population is of European descent. Over 8% of the population is of Asian descent (predominantly Chinese, Vietnamese, Filipino and Indian).[15] The total indigenous population is estimated to be about 520,000 individuals, including people of mixed descent.[4] The population of Queensland also includes descendants of South Sea Islanders brought over for indentured servitude in the 19th century.

In the 2006 Australian Census residents were asked to describe their ancestry, in which up to two could be nominated. Proportionate to the Australian resident population, the most commonly nominated ancestries were:[15]

Australian (31.13%)
English (29.65%)
Irish (9.08%)
Scottish (7.16%)
Italian (4.29%)
German (4.09%)
Chinese (3.37%)
Greek (1.84%)
Dutch (1.56%)

Libyan (1.17%)
Lebanese (0.92%)
Armenian (0.82%)
New Zealand (0.81%)
Filipino (0.81%)
Maltese (0.77%)
Croatian (0.59%)
Australian Aboriginal (0.58%)
Welsh (0.57%)
French (0.5%)

Serbian (0.48%)
Banyumasan (0.47%)
Spanish (0.42%)
Macedonian (0.42%)
South African (0.4%)
Sinhalese (0.37%)
Hungarian (0.3%)
Russian (0.3%)
Turkish (0.3%)
American (0.28%)

At the 2006 Census 455,026 people (or 2.3% of the total Australian population) reported they were of Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander origin.[5]

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Reply #361 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:53pm

Soren wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:42pm:

Grey wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:

They weren't, in the case of America much of its prosperity and infrastructure was built by Black slaves and indentured Chinese labour and there was no shortage of interracial breeding. In Australia the sheep and cattle stations that formed the backbone of the economy owed their existence to aboriginal stockmen.

So why didn't the Africans and the Chinese and the Aboriginese create the infrastructure and wealth and prosperity and openness and liberty, plumbing, roads, medicine, schools, deodorants, dental care before whitey management came on the scene?

At the time the convicts were sent here, how many people in England and Ireland had access to dental care, medicine and education?

Indigenous Australians had liberty until it was taken away from them by British Imperialism.

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Reply #363 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:56pm

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:42pm:

Grey wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:

They weren't, in the case of America much of its prosperity and infrastructure was built by Black slaves and indentured Chinese labour and there was no shortage of interracial breeding. In Australia the sheep and cattle stations that formed the backbone of the economy owed their existence to aboriginal stockmen.

So why didn't the Africans and the Chinese and the Aboriginese create the infrastructure and wealth and prosperity and openness and liberty, plumbing, roads, medicine, schools, deodorants, dental care before whitey management came on the scene?

The Chinese? But my dear good fellow, with the exception of liberty, they did.

This is why you're not a big fan of history, old boy. The owl of Minerva be damned.

You don't like the facts.

That Great Wall of theirs must have just sprouted there! And we all know Chinese medicine is a new concept Roll Eyes

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Reply #364 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:56pm

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Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

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So you believe "white stock" was responsible for 99% of the work of settling Australia and America.

Thats not the same thing is it? I'm saying 99% of the population for the first 200-ish years of this country was white. I never said anything about division of labour.

Now, Honky, I know you've heard of the Aboriginals. You post about them all the time.

So you don't think it's the division of labour, you think the population of early Australia was 99% white. America too.

I'm sorry, Honky, I'm trying to be tolerant and everything, but I think you've got a severe case of alcohol-related brain damage.

Unfortunately, there's not a lot you can do about this.

You do know "99%" is more a figure of speech, meaning the vast majority than an exact figure don't you? Abos make up 2% of the popualtion today and that's including fake abos that are more white than dark...and you want to claim they had equal share in building this nation? You want to claim a handful of chinese goldm,iners and merchants shouldered more of the laod than the backbone of the popualtion? Piss off with your disingenuous revisionism.

Sorry, Honky, I understand now. A figure of speech. The actual figure could be as high as 50%, or 80%.

Yes, Abos might make up around 2% today. What figure do you think they might have comprised when the country was first settled?

99%?

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Reply #365 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:59pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:53pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:42pm:

Grey wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:

They weren't, in the case of America much of its prosperity and infrastructure was built by Black slaves and indentured Chinese labour and there was no shortage of interracial breeding. In Australia the sheep and cattle stations that formed the backbone of the economy owed their existence to aboriginal stockmen.

So why didn't the Africans and the Chinese and the Aboriginese create the infrastructure and wealth and prosperity and openness and liberty, plumbing, roads, medicine, schools, deodorants, dental care before whitey management came on the scene?

At the time the convicts were sent here, how many people in England and Ireland had access to dental care, medicine and education?

Indigenous Australians had liberty until it was taken away from them by British Imperialism.

They are free to roam. Nobody has taken their liberty. They were given more liberty - go to school and have a life or roam as your ancstors.

Re 18th century England - it was more developed than any other part of the world at the time, except perhaps Holland. Which means MORE dental care, medicine and education than anywhere else at the time.

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Reply #366 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:00pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:56pm:

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:42pm:

Grey wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:

They weren't, in the case of America much of its prosperity and infrastructure was built by Black slaves and indentured Chinese labour and there was no shortage of interracial breeding. In Australia the sheep and cattle stations that formed the backbone of the economy owed their existence to aboriginal stockmen.

So why didn't the Africans and the Chinese and the Aboriginese create the infrastructure and wealth and prosperity and openness and liberty, plumbing, roads, medicine, schools, deodorants, dental care before whitey management came on the scene?

The Chinese? But my dear good fellow, with the exception of liberty, they did.

This is why you're not a big fan of history, old boy. The owl of Minerva be damned.

You don't like the facts.

That Great Wall of theirs must have just sprouted there! And we all know Chinese medicine is a new concept Roll Eyes

Don't be ridiculous. These were built and invented by the British (and Danes), respectively, in the Middle Ages and 5th century BC.

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Reply #367 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:02pm

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:56pm:

... wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:48pm:

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

... wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:28pm:

Quote:

So you believe "white stock" was responsible for 99% of the work of settling Australia and America.

Thats not the same thing is it? I'm saying 99% of the population for the first 200-ish years of this country was white. I never said anything about division of labour.

Now, Honky, I know you've heard of the Aboriginals. You post about them all the time.

So you don't think it's the division of labour, you think the population of early Australia was 99% white. America too.

I'm sorry, Honky, I'm trying to be tolerant and everything, but I think you've got a severe case of alcohol-related brain damage.

Unfortunately, there's not a lot you can do about this.

You do know "99%" is more a figure of speech, meaning the vast majority than an exact figure don't you? Abos make up 2% of the popualtion today and that's including fake abos that are more white than dark...and you want to claim they had equal share in building this nation? You want to claim a handful of chinese goldm,iners and merchants shouldered more of the laod than the backbone of the popualtion? Piss off with your disingenuous revisionism.

Sorry, Honky, I understand now. A figure of speech. The actual figure could be as high as 50%, or 80%.

Yes, Abos might make up around 2% today. What figure do you think they might have comprised when the country was first settled?

99%?

Is 50% a "vast majority" knucklehead?

And it doesn't matter what percenatge they were when first seetled. Obviously at the exact moment of the first fleet landing, they would have comprised 99% of the population of the land mass that would become known as australia. Obviously the country was formed through the efforts of migrants from then on. Migrants who were white. We know abos didn't get the vote until 1967 (?) so beyond carrying out white mans orders, whow much did they contribute? If it was significantly, you'd think they might have crafted it in their own image a bit more, so they'd have a chance at thriving in the future.

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Reply #368 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:08pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:53pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:42pm:

Grey wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:

They weren't, in the case of America much of its prosperity and infrastructure was built by Black slaves and indentured Chinese labour and there was no shortage of interracial breeding. In Australia the sheep and cattle stations that formed the backbone of the economy owed their existence to aboriginal stockmen.

So why didn't the Africans and the Chinese and the Aboriginese create the infrastructure and wealth and prosperity and openness and liberty, plumbing, roads, medicine, schools, deodorants, dental care before whitey management came on the scene?

At the time the convicts were sent here, how many people in England and Ireland had access to dental care, medicine and education?

Indigenous Australians had liberty until it was taken away from them by British Imperialism.

People will find Aborigines had a far better life than the vast majority of Europeans before and at the time of the invasion. Their life span and quality of life would have been far better than the average Pom.

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Reply #369 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:22pm

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You do know "99%" is more a figure of speech, meaning the vast majority than an exact figure don't you?

You're wasted here Honky. You could speech write for Tony Abbott. Grin

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You want to claim a handful of chinese goldm,iners and merchants shouldered more of the laod, than the backbone of the popualtion?

Railwaymen
In 1886, the Miller Brothers won the contract to construct the Darwin to Pine Creek railway with the work to be completed within five years. As its peak there were more than 4000 Chinese workmen employed on this project. The conditions were harsh and the hours long: from 6.00am to 6.00pm, with a two-hour break in the middle of the day. [12] Men such as Moo Yet For, [13] Yu Wong [14] and Jimmy Ah Yu [15] quarried the stone, cut through the hills, built the bridges and laid the track. Jimmy Ah Yu told his children that during the work the Miller Brothers attempted to cut wages by 30 per cent. The workers responded by cutting their shovels by 30 per cent. The dispute was settled without any reduction in wages.

http://www.chaf.lib.latrobe.edu.au/jca/issue01/07ONeil.html

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Reply #370 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:23pm

... wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:02pm:

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:56pm:

... wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:48pm:

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

... wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:28pm:

Quote:

So you believe "white stock" was responsible for 99% of the work of settling Australia and America.

Thats not the same thing is it? I'm saying 99% of the population for the first 200-ish years of this country was white. I never said anything about division of labour.

Now, Honky, I know you've heard of the Aboriginals. You post about them all the time.

So you don't think it's the division of labour, you think the population of early Australia was 99% white. America too.

I'm sorry, Honky, I'm trying to be tolerant and everything, but I think you've got a severe case of alcohol-related brain damage.

Unfortunately, there's not a lot you can do about this.

You do know "99%" is more a figure of speech, meaning the vast majority than an exact figure don't you? Abos make up 2% of the popualtion today and that's including fake abos that are more white than dark...and you want to claim they had equal share in building this nation? You want to claim a handful of chinese goldm,iners and merchants shouldered more of the laod than the backbone of the popualtion? Piss off with your disingenuous revisionism.

Sorry, Honky, I understand now. A figure of speech. The actual figure could be as high as 50%, or 80%.

Yes, Abos might make up around 2% today. What figure do you think they might have comprised when the country was first settled?

99%?

Is 50% a "vast majority" knucklehead?

And it doesn't matter what percenatge they were when first seetled. Obviously at the exact moment of the first fleet landing, they would have comprised 99% of the population of the land mass that would become known as australia. Obviously the country was formed through the efforts of migrants from then on. Migrants who were white. We know abos didn't get the vote until 1967 (?) so beyond carrying out white mans orders, whow much did they contribute? If it was significantly, you'd think they might have crafted it in their own image a bit more, so they'd have a chance at thriving in the future.

Yes, it's not as if the Abos traded with the whites, shared their water holes, fishing and hunting grounds with them, took them through the paths of their nations and protected them from other groups, and taught them their customs, their languages and their ways - all carefully written down by officers like Watkin Tench to be learned by other Europeans.

It's not as if Aboriginals moved into the white settlement very early on, and shared houses with the whites, became domestic, and took up trades and jobs within the new white economy. It's not as if the Rocks, in particular, was inhabited by both blacks and whites alike - as discovered in recent archaological digs around the Rocks area.

It's not as if many Australian cities are built on Aboriginal water sources and meeting grounds, or the roads and highways follow paths shown to settlers and exporers by the minority 2% Abos.

Why didn't the Abos craft the nation in their image? Good question. Would you like to hazzard a guess?

I know you don't want to hear my answer.

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Reply #371 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:30pm

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:23pm:

... wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:02pm:

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:56pm:

... wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:48pm:

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

... wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:28pm:

Quote:

So you believe "white stock" was responsible for 99% of the work of settling Australia and America.

Thats not the same thing is it? I'm saying 99% of the population for the first 200-ish years of this country was white. I never said anything about division of labour.

Now, Honky, I know you've heard of the Aboriginals. You post about them all the time.

So you don't think it's the division of labour, you think the population of early Australia was 99% white. America too.

I'm sorry, Honky, I'm trying to be tolerant and everything, but I think you've got a severe case of alcohol-related brain damage.

Unfortunately, there's not a lot you can do about this.

You do know "99%" is more a figure of speech, meaning the vast majority than an exact figure don't you? Abos make up 2% of the popualtion today and that's including fake abos that are more white than dark...and you want to claim they had equal share in building this nation? You want to claim a handful of chinese goldm,iners and merchants shouldered more of the laod than the backbone of the popualtion? Piss off with your disingenuous revisionism.

Sorry, Honky, I understand now. A figure of speech. The actual figure could be as high as 50%, or 80%.

Yes, Abos might make up around 2% today. What figure do you think they might have comprised when the country was first settled?

99%?

Is 50% a "vast majority" knucklehead?

And it doesn't matter what percenatge they were when first seetled. Obviously at the exact moment of the first fleet landing, they would have comprised 99% of the population of the land mass that would become known as australia. Obviously the country was formed through the efforts of migrants from then on. Migrants who were white. We know abos didn't get the vote until 1967 (?) so beyond carrying out white mans orders, whow much did they contribute? If it was significantly, you'd think they might have crafted it in their own image a bit more, so they'd have a chance at thriving in the future.

Yes, it's not as if the Abos traded with the whites, shared their water holes and hunting grounds with them, took them through the paths of their nations and protected them from other groups, and taught them their customs, their languages and their ways - all carefully written down by officers like Watkin Tench to be learned by other Europeans.

It's not as if many of the cities are built on Aboriginal water sources and meeting grounds, or the roads and highways follow paths shown to them by the minority 2% Abos.

Why didn't the Abos craft the nation in their image? Good question. Would you like to hazzard a guess?

I know you don't want to hear my answer.

So whitey learned from the abos.
Whoah. Unprecedented strategy there. But again, not central to any point I want to make. i fear it's another smokescreen. Ho hum.

Australia was crafted by whitey, for whitey. If they employed some aborigines or chinamen, it was as tools. You don't give the piantbursh credit for the work of art, it is the hand that wields it. A white hand.

And I would liek to hear why they didn't. It would be nice to hear soemthing serious from you.

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Reply #372 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:35pm

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