abu_rashid wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 10:40am:


Horse poop....
Normal Muslims, perhaps.....but the extremists were very happy to assist the Nazis in the oven tossing during WW2, and are still quite happy to kill Jews indiscrimately...(either through an inability to spot a 'Zionist' or through a lack of interesting in spotting them..)

Jan is a perfect example.....Everything is the fault of 'Zionists'...of course he/she can't tell you what one is...(just that they ain't WASPs) and of course the old classic "if you disagree with me, you must BE Jewish"...Falah is almost as bad, with his constant posting of threads about ordinary crimes laid at the feet of either the Jewish or Christian religions...but no mention made when the same crimes are committed by Muslims...

It was and still is Arab/Muslim land.

They escaped from Zionist militias that went village to village slaughtering and expelling people. Israel's own historians have documented this. eg. Ilan Pappe in his book "The ethnic cleansing of Palestine". Plan Dalet, the series of operations during which this occurred, was in full long for about a full year before any Arab army even set foot near Palestine. Please read some history.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 10:23am:


For a very good reason. A Jew is no longer 'just a Jew', Jusaism has been infiltrated by Globalists and subjecting Muslims to Genicidal wars of terror.

How to deal with Zionists Jews. "If you can't separate the wheat from the chaff turn it all into horse fodder".

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 10:50am:


Here's the facts about the Nazi, Zionist, "Collaboration", Muslims don't even come into the picture (wishful thinking on your part?). Firstly there were NO OVENS. I'll offer that proof later. And it was the ZIONISTS against Jews who Collaborated with the Nazis and helped with identifying Jews for "Evacuation" (known as pograms today).

As for me, I can tell you EXACTLY what a Zionist is, but obviously you don't because you don't (or can't) answer with facts, just drivel about what you THINK.

You love putting convoluted meanings to my words simply because you can't handle or deliver 'facts' ... I don't think you or anyone else here is a JEW... I consider you "Zionists" and Zionists are as much the enemy of REAL Jews as they are to the rest of us.

As for crimes commited by ANYONE it's a foregone conclusion that the same crimes (and just as many if not more) can be found in ANY religion.

You come up with Muslim crimes, we can come up with more Zionist Jew, zionist Christian, atheist zionist crimes ... Guess who wins. Wanna prove it?

Facts sir, just the facts

Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a detailed memorandum to the new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The first step, it suggested, had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4

Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own tradition. Zionism recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend, symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear ...

Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community and collective responsibility ...

We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question, take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will have to be dealt with by most European peoples ...

Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities. Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the cultural domain, we -- having been brought up in the German language and German culture -- can show an interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration and internal sympathy ...

For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are involved but a real problem whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment especially the German people ...

Boycott propaganda -- such as is currently being carried on against Germany in many ways -- is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and to build ...

We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe disadvantages result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions for other peoples.............Cut.

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This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in the war on the side of Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46

In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe requires as a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question by evacuation. ("Jew-free Europe")

The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally achieved is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state in its historical boundaries.

The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.

The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany and the Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:

1. Common interests can exist between a European New Order based on the German concept and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as embodied by the NMO.

2. Cooperation is possible between the New Germany and a renewed, folkish-national Jewry [Hebr_ertum].

3. The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, and bound by treaty with the German Reich, would be in the interest of maintaining and strengthening the future German position of power in the Near East.

On the basis of these considerations, and upon the condition that the German Reich government recognize the national aspirations of the Israel Freedom Movement mentioned above, the NMO in Palestine offers to actively take part in the war on the side of Germany.

This offer by the NMO could include military, political and informational activity within Palestine and, after certain organizational measures, outside as well. Along with this the Jewish men of Europe would be militarily trained and organized in military units under the leadership and command of the NMO. They would take part in combat operations for the purpose of conquering Palestine, should such a front by formed.

The indirect participation of the Israel Freedom Movement in the New Order of Europe, already in the preparatory stage, combined with a positive-radical solution of the European Jewish problem on the basis of the national aspirations of the Jewish people mentioned above, would greatly strengthen the moral foundation of the New Order in the eyes of all humanity.

The cooperation of the Israel Freedom Movement would also be consistent with a recent speech by the German Reich Chancellor, in which Hitler stressed that he would utilize any combination and coalition in order to isolate and defeat England..................Cut

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Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler

In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made by the radical underground "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over the group's attitude toward Britain, which had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.

This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in the war on the side of Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46

In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe requires as a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question by evacuation. ("Jew-free Europe")

The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally achieved is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state in its historical boundaries.

The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever..... Cut.

These little classics come from actual documentation

Btw Gizmo there were quite a few Jewish leaders who were also collaborators with the Nazis, nothing peculiar to a few Muslims. Jabotinsky received weapons from them, and was himself an admirer of Hitler's ally Mussolini, and other Zionist leaders were also implicated in various collaboration plots with the Nazis.

Here's how Israel "Protects" itself from Palestine

And these are what Palestinians use to 'terrorize' Israel

Soren wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:40pm:



Quite a protection racket the Zionists have for themselves when they can steal a whole country.