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Protesters want "humane" refugee policy
Jan 10^th, 2012 at 4:49pm

This story was posted online by the Daily Telegraph today and just makes me laugh. The thing that Lee Rhiannon conveniently chooses to ignore is that Australia had a far more humane policy for dealing with illegal immigrants under the Howard government than what exists (or could exist) under the ALP/Greens minority.

Gillard wants to send these people to Malaysia, a country that uses the cane as a form of punishment in its detention facilities. It would also see them crammed in like sardines in stark contrast to the conditions that exist in Australian detention facilities. That's the first point.

The second point is that the Pacific Solution was far more humane than the current ALP non-solution in that so far hundreds, if not thousands, of people have died at sea in their attempts to reach Australia. Why? Because the ALP dismantled a policy that deterred people smugglers and their human cargo, thereby almost eliminating the risk to the lives of people attempting to cross the water between Indonesia and Australia. All this was done in the name of being more "humane" but all we've seen is many more boats come with many more deaths.

If those bleeding hearts out there want a more humane policy, don't vote Labor or Greens at the next election so that the Coalition can stop the boats with a policy that is proven to be extremely effective and far less expensive than what the ALP is doing.

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Re: Protesters want "humane" refugee policy
Reply #1 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 5:24pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

This story was posted online by the Daily Telegraph today and just makes me laugh. The thing that Lee Rhiannon conveniently chooses to ignore is that Australia had a far more humane policy for dealing with illegal immigrants under the Howard government than what exists (or could exist) under the ALP/Greens minority.

Gillard wants to send these people to Malaysia, a country that uses the cane as a form of punishment in its detention facilities. It would also see them crammed in like sardines in stark contrast to the conditions that exist in Australian detention facilities. That's the first point.

The second point is that the Pacific Solution was far more humane than the current ALP non-solution in that so far hundreds, if not thousands, of people have died at sea in their attempts to reach Australia. Why? Because the ALP dismantled a policy that deterred people smugglers and their human cargo, thereby almost eliminating the risk to the lives of people attempting to cross the water between Indonesia and Australia. All this was done in the name of being more "humane" but all we've seen is many more boats come with many more deaths.

If those bleeding hearts out there want a more humane policy, don't vote Labor or Greens at the next election so that the Coalition can stop the boats with a policy that is proven to be extremely effective and far less expensive than what the ALP is doing.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/protesters-call-for-humane-r...

Just aside, what happened to the prospective boat passengers during the time of Howard's Pacific Solution?

If all of them were slaughtered why wasn't there an outcry?

Seems those who had to give away the idea of gate crashing into Australia, somehow managed to survive elsewhere.

Fact is, that we can't accommodate every person who wants a better lifestyle on Welfare - too damned many so best to accept only the proven refugees.

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Re: Protesters want "humane" refugee policy
Reply #2 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 5:35pm

olde.sault wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 5:24pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

This story was posted online by the Daily Telegraph today and just makes me laugh. The thing that Lee Rhiannon conveniently chooses to ignore is that Australia had a far more humane policy for dealing with illegal immigrants under the Howard government than what exists (or could exist) under the ALP/Greens minority.

Gillard wants to send these people to Malaysia, a country that uses the cane as a form of punishment in its detention facilities. It would also see them crammed in like sardines in stark contrast to the conditions that exist in Australian detention facilities. That's the first point.

The second point is that the Pacific Solution was far more humane than the current ALP non-solution in that so far hundreds, if not thousands, of people have died at sea in their attempts to reach Australia. Why? Because the ALP dismantled a policy that deterred people smugglers and their human cargo, thereby almost eliminating the risk to the lives of people attempting to cross the water between Indonesia and Australia. All this was done in the name of being more "humane" but all we've seen is many more boats come with many more deaths.

If those bleeding hearts out there want a more humane policy, don't vote Labor or Greens at the next election so that the Coalition can stop the boats with a policy that is proven to be extremely effective and far less expensive than what the ALP is doing.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/protesters-call-for-humane-r...

Just aside, what happened to the prospective boat passengers during the time of Howard's Pacific Solution?

If all of them were slaughtered why wasn't there an outcry?

Seems those who had to give away the idea of gate crashing into Australia, somehow managed to survive elsewhere.

Fact is, that we can't accommodate every person who wants a better lifestyle on Welfare - too damned many so best to accept only the proven refugees.

I would say they realised there were other countries they could claim asylum in - such as those they transited through or near on their way to Indonesia...

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Reply #3 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 5:37pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

This story was posted online by the Daily Telegraph today and just makes me laugh. The thing that Lee Rhiannon conveniently chooses to ignore is that Australia had a far more humane policy for dealing with illegal immigrants under the Howard government than what exists (or could exist) under the ALP/Greens minority.

Gillard wants to send these people to Malaysia, a country that uses the cane as a form of punishment in its detention facilities. It would also see them crammed in like sardines in stark contrast to the conditions that exist in Australian detention facilities. That's the first point.

The second point is that the Pacific Solution was far more humane than the current ALP non-solution in that so far hundreds, if not thousands, of people have died at sea in their attempts to reach Australia. Why? Because the ALP dismantled a policy that deterred people smugglers and their human cargo, thereby almost eliminating the risk to the lives of people attempting to cross the water between Indonesia and Australia. All this was done in the name of being more "humane" but all we've seen is many more boats come with many more deaths.

If those bleeding hearts out there want a more humane policy, don't vote Labor or Greens at the next election so that the Coalition can stop the boats with a policy that is proven to be extremely effective and far less expensive than what the ALP is doing.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/protesters-call-for-humane-r...

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Re: Protesters want "humane" refugee policy
Reply #4 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 5:47pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 5:37pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

This story was posted online by the Daily Telegraph today and just makes me laugh. The thing that Lee Rhiannon conveniently chooses to ignore is that Australia had a far more humane policy for dealing with illegal immigrants under the Howard government than what exists (or could exist) under the ALP/Greens minority.

Gillard wants to send these people to Malaysia, a country that uses the cane as a form of punishment in its detention facilities. It would also see them crammed in like sardines in stark contrast to the conditions that exist in Australian detention facilities. That's the first point.

The second point is that the Pacific Solution was far more humane than the current ALP non-solution in that so far hundreds, if not thousands, of people have died at sea in their attempts to reach Australia. Why? Because the ALP dismantled a policy that deterred people smugglers and their human cargo, thereby almost eliminating the risk to the lives of people attempting to cross the water between Indonesia and Australia. All this was done in the name of being more "humane" but all we've seen is many more boats come with many more deaths.

If those bleeding hearts out there want a more humane policy, don't vote Labor or Greens at the next election so that the Coalition can stop the boats with a policy that is proven to be extremely effective and far less expensive than what the ALP is doing.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/protesters-call-for-humane-r...

I welcome the poor and the oppressed to our shores and stand against all the greedy corporate fascists that wage economic, class and race war against our common welfare & security. Cool

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Where are you going to house them?

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Reply #5 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 5:50pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 5:47pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 5:37pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

This story was posted online by the Daily Telegraph today and just makes me laugh. The thing that Lee Rhiannon conveniently chooses to ignore is that Australia had a far more humane policy for dealing with illegal immigrants under the Howard government than what exists (or could exist) under the ALP/Greens minority.

Gillard wants to send these people to Malaysia, a country that uses the cane as a form of punishment in its detention facilities. It would also see them crammed in like sardines in stark contrast to the conditions that exist in Australian detention facilities. That's the first point.

The second point is that the Pacific Solution was far more humane than the current ALP non-solution in that so far hundreds, if not thousands, of people have died at sea in their attempts to reach Australia. Why? Because the ALP dismantled a policy that deterred people smugglers and their human cargo, thereby almost eliminating the risk to the lives of people attempting to cross the water between Indonesia and Australia. All this was done in the name of being more "humane" but all we've seen is many more boats come with many more deaths.

If those bleeding hearts out there want a more humane policy, don't vote Labor or Greens at the next election so that the Coalition can stop the boats with a policy that is proven to be extremely effective and far less expensive than what the ALP is doing.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/protesters-call-for-humane-r...

I welcome the poor and the oppressed to our shores and stand against all the greedy corporate fascists that wage economic, class and race war against our common welfare & security. Cool

http://www.geekologie.com/2008/11/07/welcome-mouse-pad.jpg

Where are you going to house them?

I have housed and supported refugees, I look after my own kind and class not racist rightwing corporate fascists though. I even assisted one guy in his struggle against the odds in the Howard era to get legal status. Cool

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Reply #6 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 5:59pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

This story was posted online by the Daily Telegraph today and just makes me laugh. The thing that Lee Rhiannon conveniently chooses to ignore is that Australia had a far more humane policy for dealing with illegal immigrants under the Howard government than what exists (or could exist) under the ALP/Greens minority.

Gillard wants to send these people to Malaysia, a country that uses the cane as a form of punishment in its detention facilities. It would also see them crammed in like sardines in stark contrast to the conditions that exist in Australian detention facilities. That's the first point.

The second point is that the Pacific Solution was far more humane than the current ALP non-solution in that so far hundreds, if not thousands, of people have died at sea in their attempts to reach Australia. Why? Because the ALP dismantled a policy that deterred people smugglers and their human cargo, thereby almost eliminating the risk to the lives of people attempting to cross the water between Indonesia and Australia. All this was done in the name of being more "humane" but all we've seen is many more boats come with many more deaths.

If those bleeding hearts out there want a more humane policy, don't vote Labor or Greens at the next election so that the Coalition can stop the boats with a policy that is proven to be extremely effective and far less expensive than what the ALP is doing.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/protesters-call-for-humane-r...

Under the LIBs Australia has a human REFUGEE policy

Under Labor - the courts decided that their Malaysian Solution was inhumane

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Reply #7 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 6:13pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 5:47pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 5:37pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

This story was posted online by the Daily Telegraph today and just makes me laugh. The thing that Lee Rhiannon conveniently chooses to ignore is that Australia had a far more humane policy for dealing with illegal immigrants under the Howard government than what exists (or could exist) under the ALP/Greens minority.

Gillard wants to send these people to Malaysia, a country that uses the cane as a form of punishment in its detention facilities. It would also see them crammed in like sardines in stark contrast to the conditions that exist in Australian detention facilities. That's the first point.

The second point is that the Pacific Solution was far more humane than the current ALP non-solution in that so far hundreds, if not thousands, of people have died at sea in their attempts to reach Australia. Why? Because the ALP dismantled a policy that deterred people smugglers and their human cargo, thereby almost eliminating the risk to the lives of people attempting to cross the water between Indonesia and Australia. All this was done in the name of being more "humane" but all we've seen is many more boats come with many more deaths.

If those bleeding hearts out there want a more humane policy, don't vote Labor or Greens at the next election so that the Coalition can stop the boats with a policy that is proven to be extremely effective and far less expensive than what the ALP is doing.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/protesters-call-for-humane-r...

I welcome the poor and the oppressed to our shores and stand against all the greedy corporate fascists that wage economic, class and race war against our common welfare & security. Cool

http://www.geekologie.com/2008/11/07/welcome-mouse-pad.jpg

Where are you going to house them?

I have housed and supported refugees, I look after my own kind and class not racist rightwing corporate fascists though. I even assisted one guy in his struggle against the odds in the Howard era to get legal status. Cool

I hope you've got space for a few thousand that will arrive this year because of the ALP's incompetence.

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Reply #8 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 6:23pm

I have housed and supported refugees, I look after my own kind and class not racist rightwing corporate fascists though. I even assisted one guy in his struggle against the odds in the Howard era to get legal status.

That's bullshit Bill. You are a welfare bludger so how the hell could you help anyone. Jesus you can't even help yourself.

You wouldn't house anyone Crany. Sheesh they may eat all your food leaving the big fat heap (that's you Bill) with nothing.

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Reply #9 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 6:41pm

Well we have another hateful attack from Blackadder, what a surprise.
Of course he knows that only Wealthy people ever show generousity towards others, and kindness towards strangers and visitors to our shore is obviously such a huge part of right wing philosophy, which the likes of Abbott promotes.
If it is good to hate strangers, then I guess it is good to hate people that don't hate the strangers as well, I guess that makes sense if you are a patriot like Tone.
Maybe he modeled himself on the character, "Bill The Butcher", from The Gangs Of New York, who proudly affirmed his intention to keep throwing rocks at migrants, as they came off the boats, and bemoaned that he just wished he had enough bullets and guns so he could slaughter them before they ever got to set foot on HIS country's soil.
These racist loons don't get it, a-holes like them have been preaching hate forever, all you need to qualify is to look, think, or act, "different" to "US(or Them, depending upon your perspective)???
Below is a picture of the new Liberal Party refugee policy committee.

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Reply #11 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:02pm

mozzaok wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 6:41pm:

Well we have another hateful attack from Blackadder, what a surprise.
Of course he knows that only Wealthy people ever show generousity towards others, and kindness towards strangers and visitors to our shore is obviously such a huge part of right wing philosophy, which the likes of Abbott promotes.
If it is good to hate strangers, then I guess it is good to hate people that don't hate the strangers as well, I guess that makes sense if you are a patriot like Tone.
Maybe he modeled himself on the character, "Bill The Butcher", from The Gangs Of New York, who proudly affirmed his intention to keep throwing rocks at migrants, as they came off the boats, and bemoaned that he just wished he had enough bullets and guns so he could slaughter them before they ever got to set foot on HIS country's soil.
These racist loons don't get it, a-holes like them have been preaching hate forever, all you need to qualify is to look, think, or act, "different" to "US(or Them, depending upon your perspective)???
Below is a picture of the new Liberal Party refugee policy committee.

Afraid you're wasting your breath talking to the goldfish, mozza. They'll have forgotten everything you said by the end of the sentence.

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Reply #12 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:30pm

blackadder wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 6:23pm:

I have housed and supported refugees, I look after my own kind and class not racist rightwing corporate fascists though. I even assisted one guy in his struggle against the odds in the Howard era to get legal status.

That's bullshit Bill. You are a welfare bludger so how the hell could you help anyone. Jesus you can't even help yourself.

You wouldn't house anyone Crany. Sheesh they may eat all your food leaving the big fat heap (that's you Bill) with nothing.

Gods honour its the truth, it was a Muslim from Afghanistan but I would never do anything like that for you - you can believe that.... I began getting tortured and assaulted at work by the Howard Dictatorship at that time too - but I would do it again. Tongue

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Reply #13 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:48pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:30pm:

blackadder wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 6:23pm:

I have housed and supported refugees, I look after my own kind and class not racist rightwing corporate fascists though. I even assisted one guy in his struggle against the odds in the Howard era to get legal status.

That's bullshit Bill. You are a welfare bludger so how the hell could you help anyone. Jesus you can't even help yourself.

You wouldn't house anyone Crany. Sheesh they may eat all your food leaving the big fat heap (that's you Bill) with nothing.

Gods honour its the truth, it was a Muslim from Afghanistan but I would never do anything like that for you - you can believe that.... I began getting tortured and assaulted at work by the Howard Dictatorship at that time too - but I would do it again. Tongue

You really are nuts! Cheesy

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Reply #14 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 8:19pm

Gods honour its the truth, it was a Muslim from Afghanistan but I would never do anything like that for you - you can believe that.... I began getting tortured and assaulted at work by the Howard Dictatorship at that time too - but I would do it again.

Gee Mozzaok and Gist. See what you are sticking up for. A raving looney. Doesn't say much about the two of you.

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