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GoddyofOz Gold Member Offline Vote 1 for Sex, cause you're gay if you don't Posts: 2397	Re: Same Sex Civil Unions FINALLY Passed in QLD Reply #60 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 11:21pm A victory for personal liberties, and a massive defeat for totalitarian fundamentalism.
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Re: Same Sex Civil Unions FINALLY Passed in QLD
Reply #61 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 11:34pm

Same sex unions need to be legally equivalent to heterosexual marriage contracts, in regard to the rights and responsibilities of the partners involved, but personally I believe that this is where the changes to our traditional system stops.
Do NOT call it Gay Marriage, as marriage is a traditional word which did describe the union of a male and female in a lifelong commitment, and that meaning does not need to be changed to placate the sensibilities of some gay people.
Do NOT demand that any church must perform Gay unions, or commitment ceremonies, under the false claim that to refuse to do so is discriminatory.
Life is full of choices, and people in a church make choices based upon sets of beliefs, and the state should not try and force them to comply with actions that would go against their beliefs.

So, have equal rights under the law, call it a homosexual life partnership, or Gay Union, whatever they want, that is appropriate, and does not demand the re-defining of traditional descriptions of words like Marriage, or married, "Partners", or "Life Partners" is perfectly adequate, to communicate their desire to announce their relationship to the world.

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Re: Same Sex Civil Unions FINALLY Passed in QLD
Reply #62 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 11:36pm

mozzaok wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 11:34pm:

Same sex unions need to be legally equivalent to heterosexual marriage contracts, in regard to the rights and responsibilities of the partners involved, but personally I believe that this is where the changes to our traditional system stops.
Do NOT call it Gay Marriage, as marriage is a traditional word which did describe the union of a male and female in a lifelong commitment, and that meaning does not need to be changed to placate the sensibilities of some gay people.
Do NOT demand that any church must perform Gay unions, or commitment ceremonies, under the false claim that to refuse to do so is discriminatory.
Life is full of choices, and people in a church make choices based upon sets of beliefs, and the state should not try and force them to comply with actions that would go against their beliefs.

So, have equal rights under the law, call it a homosexual life partnership, or Gay Union, whatever they want, that is appropriate, and does not demand the re-defining of traditional descriptions of words like Marriage, or married, "Partners", or "Life Partners" is perfectly adequate, to communicate their desire to announce their relationship to the world.

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Re: Same Sex Civil Unions FINALLY Passed in QLD
Reply #63 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 7:34am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 10:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 10:20pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:42pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 5:52pm:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 4:47pm:

The anti gay lobby on here seem to know alot about the bedroom antics of same sex couples Cheesy

Personal experience or a case of lurid curiosity?

Years of public AIDS education. We have learned more about arsefancying practices than we ever wished to know.

Yes - why are they encouraging people to sodomise each other's butt holes?
It's disgusting & revolting.

Homophobia is disgusting and revolting.

An opinon is revolting?
I think it's disgusting that people are not allowed to have an opinion.
Annie - if you knew what they did you wouldn't say that.

I'm not watching that...

Annie,
Well then trust me - what they do is disgusting & I don't support them.

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Re: Same Sex Civil Unions FINALLY Passed in QLD
Reply #64 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 7:42am

mozzaok wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 11:34pm:

Same sex unions need to be legally equivalent to heterosexual marriage contracts, in regard to the rights and responsibilities of the partners involved, but personally I believe that this is where the changes to our traditional system stops.
Do NOT call it Gay Marriage, as marriage is a traditional word which did describe the union of a male and female in a lifelong commitment, and that meaning does not need to be changed to placate the sensibilities of some gay people.
Do NOT demand that any church must perform Gay unions, or commitment ceremonies, under the false claim that to refuse to do so is discriminatory.
Life is full of choices, and people in a church make choices based upon sets of beliefs, and the state should not try and force them to comply with actions that would go against their beliefs.

So, have equal rights under the law, call it a homosexual life partnership, or Gay Union, whatever they want, that is appropriate, and does not demand the re-defining of traditional descriptions of words like Marriage, or married, "Partners", or "Life Partners" is perfectly adequate, to communicate their desire to announce their relationship to the world.

Personally, I like the term 'Butt Buddies', surely that would work just as well?

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Re: Same Sex Civil Unions FINALLY Passed in QLD
Reply #65 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 9:16am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 7:34am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 10:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 10:20pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:42pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 5:52pm:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 4:47pm:

The anti gay lobby on here seem to know alot about the bedroom antics of same sex couples Cheesy

Personal experience or a case of lurid curiosity?

Years of public AIDS education. We have learned more about arsefancying practices than we ever wished to know.

Yes - why are they encouraging people to sodomise each other's butt holes?
It's disgusting & revolting.

Homophobia is disgusting and revolting.

An opinon is revolting?
I think it's disgusting that people are not allowed to have an opinion.
Annie - if you knew what they did you wouldn't say that.

I'm not watching that...

Annie,
Well then trust me - what they do is disgusting & I don't support them.

Then is just propagandist bullshit to the highest degree.

Being gay doesnt mean you automatically partake in acts such as fisting or eating waste.

Im disgusted that this kind of bullshit sees the light of day.

There is plenty of people that partake in such acts that are not limited to homosexuals.

Im sickened this is your defence of it bobby. I would bet you come into contact with gay people all the time and you wouldnt even have a clue they were gay.

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Reply #66 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 9:27am

Just for you Bobby.

In 1992, a study conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that only 26% of men 18 to 59 and 20% of women 18 to 59 had engaged in heterosexual anal sex; a similar 2005 survey (also conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) found a rising incidence of anal sex relations in the American heterosexual population. The survey showed that 40% of men and 35% of women between 25 and 44 had engaged in heterosexual anal sex.[44] In terms of overall numbers of survey respondents, seven times as many women as gay men said that they engaged in anal intercourse, with this figure reflecting the larger heterosexual population size.[45] According to a study from the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior (NSSHB) that was authored by Dr. Debby Herbenick and other researchers, although anal intercourse is reported by fewer women than other partnered sex behaviors, partnered women in the age groups between 18-49 are significantly more likely to report having anal sex in the past 90 days.[46] As of 2011, this survey provides the most up to date data about anal sex at the population level.

In a 2007 report entitled Prevalence and Correlates of Heterosexual Anal and Oral Sex in Adolescents and Adults in the United States, published in the Journal of Infectious Disease, a national survey of Family Growth found that 34% men and 30% women reported ever participating in heterosexual anal sex. The percentage of participants reporting heterosexual anal sex was significantly higher among 20- to 24-year-olds and peaked among 30- to 34-year-olds.[47][48] Another survey in, 2008, focused on a much younger demographic of teenagers and young adults, aged 15–21. It found that 16% of 1350 surveyed had had this type of sex in the previous 3 months, with condoms being used 29% of the time.[49] However, given the subject matter, the survey hypothesized the prevalence was probably underestimated.

In 2009, Kimberly R. McBride published a clinical report in The Journal of Sex Research which stated that changing norms may affect the frequency of heterosexual anal sex behaviors and suggests that there is a role for the exotic in the sexual repertoires of some heterosexuals" "[F]or a certain number of heterosexuals, anal intercourse is pleasurable, exciting, and perhaps considered more intimate than vaginal sex...". McBride and her colleagues investigated the prevalence of non-intercourse anal sex behaviors among a sample of men (n=1,299) and women (n=1,919) compared to anal intercourse experience and found that 51% of men and 43% of women had participated in at least one act of oral–anal sex, manual–anal sex, or anal sex toy use.[47][50] McBride and Janssen found that the majority of men (n=631) and women (n=856) who reported heterosexual anal intercourse in the past 12 months were in exclusive, monogamous relationships: 69% and 73%, respectively.[47][50]

Figures for prevalence can vary amongst different demographics, regions, and nationalities. A 2001 French survey of five hundred female respondents concluded that a total of 29% had engaged in this practice, with one third of these confirming to have enjoyed the experience.[51] In contrast, in a 1999 South Korean survey of 586 women, 3.5% of respondents reported having had this type of sex.[52]

Figures for the prevalence of sexual behavior can also fluctuate over time. Edward O. Laumann's 1992 survey, reported in The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States, found that about 20% of heterosexuals had engaged in male-to-female anal sex. Sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, working in the 1940s, had found that number to be closer to 40% at the time. More recently, a researcher from the University of British Columbia in 2005 put the number of heterosexuals who have engaged in this practice at between 30% and 50%.[53] According to Columbia University's health website Go Ask Alice!: "Studies indicate that about 25 percent of heterosexual couples have had anal sex at least once, and 10 percent regularly have anal penetration."[27]

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Re: Same Sex Civil Unions FINALLY Passed in QLD
Reply #67 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 9:31am

Verge wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 9:27am:

Just for you Bobby.

In 1992, a study conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that only 26% of men 18 to 59 and 20% of women 18 to 59 had engaged in heterosexual anal sex; a similar 2005 survey (also conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) found a rising incidence of anal sex relations in the American heterosexual population. The survey showed that 40% of men and 35% of women between 25 and 44 had engaged in heterosexual anal sex.[44] In terms of overall numbers of survey respondents, seven times as many women as gay men said that they engaged in anal intercourse, with this figure reflecting the larger heterosexual population size.[45] According to a study from the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior (NSSHB) that was authored by Dr. Debby Herbenick and other researchers, although anal intercourse is reported by fewer women than other partnered sex behaviors, partnered women in the age groups between 18-49 are significantly more likely to report having anal sex in the past 90 days.[46] As of 2011, this survey provides the most up to date data about anal sex at the population level.

In a 2007 report entitled Prevalence and Correlates of Heterosexual Anal and Oral Sex in Adolescents and Adults in the United States, published in the Journal of Infectious Disease, a national survey of Family Growth found that 34% men and 30% women reported ever participating in heterosexual anal sex. The percentage of participants reporting heterosexual anal sex was significantly higher among 20- to 24-year-olds and peaked among 30- to 34-year-olds.[47][48] Another survey in, 2008, focused on a much younger demographic of teenagers and young adults, aged 15–21. It found that 16% of 1350 surveyed had had this type of sex in the previous 3 months, with condoms being used 29% of the time.[49] However, given the subject matter, the survey hypothesized the prevalence was probably underestimated.

In 2009, Kimberly R. McBride published a clinical report in The Journal of Sex Research which stated that changing norms may affect the frequency of heterosexual anal sex behaviors and suggests that there is a role for the exotic in the sexual repertoires of some heterosexuals" "[F]or a certain number of heterosexuals, anal intercourse is pleasurable, exciting, and perhaps considered more intimate than vaginal sex...". McBride and her colleagues investigated the prevalence of non-intercourse anal sex behaviors among a sample of men (n=1,299) and women (n=1,919) compared to anal intercourse experience and found that 51% of men and 43% of women had participated in at least one act of oral–anal sex, manual–anal sex, or anal sex toy use.[47][50] McBride and Janssen found that the majority of men (n=631) and women (n=856) who reported heterosexual anal intercourse in the past 12 months were in exclusive, monogamous relationships: 69% and 73%, respectively.[47][50]

Figures for prevalence can vary amongst different demographics, regions, and nationalities. A 2001 French survey of five hundred female respondents concluded that a total of 29% had engaged in this practice, with one third of these confirming to have enjoyed the experience.[51] In contrast, in a 1999 South Korean survey of 586 women, 3.5% of respondents reported having had this type of sex.[52]

Figures for the prevalence of sexual behavior can also fluctuate over time. Edward O. Laumann's 1992 survey, reported in The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States, found that about 20% of heterosexuals had engaged in male-to-female anal sex. Sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, working in the 1940s, had found that number to be closer to 40% at the time. More recently, a researcher from the University of British Columbia in 2005 put the number of heterosexuals who have engaged in this practice at between 30% and 50%.[53] According to Columbia University's health website Go Ask Alice!: "Studies indicate that about 25 percent of heterosexual couples have had anal sex at least once, and 10 percent regularly have anal penetration."[27]

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Re: Same Sex Civil Unions FINALLY Passed in QLD
Reply #68 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 10:03am

Verge wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 9:16am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 7:34am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 10:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 10:20pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:42pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 5:52pm:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 4:47pm:

The anti gay lobby on here seem to know alot about the bedroom antics of same sex couples Cheesy

Personal experience or a case of lurid curiosity?

Years of public AIDS education. We have learned more about arsefancying practices than we ever wished to know.

Yes - why are they encouraging people to sodomise each other's butt holes?
It's disgusting & revolting.

Homophobia is disgusting and revolting.

An opinon is revolting?
I think it's disgusting that people are not allowed to have an opinion.
Annie - if you knew what they did you wouldn't say that.

I'm not watching that...

Annie,
Well then trust me - what they do is disgusting & I don't support them.

Then is just propagandist bullshit to the highest degree.

Being gay doesnt mean you automatically partake in acts such as fisting or eating waste.

Im disgusted that this kind of bullshit sees the light of day.

There is plenty of people that partake in such acts that are not limited to homosexuals.

Im sickened this is your defence of it bobby. I would bet you come into contact with gay people all the time and you wouldnt even have a clue they were gay.

What if they had brown marks on their face?

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Same Sex Civil Unions FINALLY Passed in QLD Reply #69 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 10:16am I think if people spend too much time obsessing over gays and what they do in the bedroom, it says more about you than them. Who cares what they do, you don't have to get in the mix of it.
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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Same Sex Civil Unions FINALLY Passed in QLD Reply #70 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 10:31am [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1322689072/60#68]What if they had brown marks on their face? [/quote] What if you had the brain of an adult?
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Re: Same Sex Civil Unions FINALLY Passed in QLD
Reply #71 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 11:21am

Don't be so fast to hire that suit just yet, young adam and steve.

Looks like the LNP wants to drop a turd in the wedding punchbowl of homo happiness. Grin

Queensland's Liberal National Party may repeal laws that allow same-sex civil unions in the state if it wins government next year.

The Civil Partnerships Bill passed parliament on Wednesday night, 47 votes to 40, with all 31 LNP MPs voting as a block against it.

The opposition has called the bill a vote-grabbing political stunt and says it was rushed through in the last sitting week of the year, and possibly the last before the state election.

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"We'll look at the repeal of it, but it may not be possible," Deputy Opposition Leader Tim Nicholls told the ABC today.

"It may be that people have altered their circumstances, or are in train to change their circumstances, as a result of that legislation."

He said repealing laws was not an easy process and while the LNP would look at it, the party's major focus would be on building the economy and driving down the cost of living.

Employment, Skills and Mining Minister Stirling Hinchliffe said Labor was prepared for the laws to become an election issue.

Opponents of them have vowed to campaign in seats where Labor is vulnerable, but Mr Hinchliffe said the party was prepared for that.

"When you take a principled stand on something you have to understand and wear what comes with that," he told the ABC.

"There are certainly people out there in the community who've taken the view that they're going to campaign on this issue against members who've supported it.

"But equally, I presume there'll be some people in the community who'll want to campaign to support those who supported it."

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/lnp-may-repeal-samesex-civil-union-laws-20111202-1oa1w.html

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Re: Same Sex Civil Unions FINALLY Passed in QLD
Reply #72 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 11:29am

qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 10:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 10:20pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:42pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 5:52pm:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 4:47pm:

The anti gay lobby on here seem to know alot about the bedroom antics of same sex couples Cheesy

Personal experience or a case of lurid curiosity?

Years of public AIDS education. We have learned more about arsefancying practices than we ever wished to know.

Yes - why are they encouraging people to sodomise each other's butt holes?
It's disgusting & revolting.

Homophobia is disgusting and revolting.

An opinon is revolting?
I think it's disgusting that people are not allowed to have an opinion.
Annie - if you knew what they did you wouldn't say that.

What do you care if they want to smoke a little wang?

But they eat da poo poo!!! Grin

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Re: Same Sex Civil Unions FINALLY Passed in QLD
Reply #73 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 11:30am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 10:03am:

Verge wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 9:16am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 7:34am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 10:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 10:20pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:42pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 5:52pm:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 4:47pm:

The anti gay lobby on here seem to know alot about the bedroom antics of same sex couples Cheesy

Personal experience or a case of lurid curiosity?

Years of public AIDS education. We have learned more about arsefancying practices than we ever wished to know.

Yes - why are they encouraging people to sodomise each other's butt holes?
It's disgusting & revolting.

Homophobia is disgusting and revolting.

An opinon is revolting?
I think it's disgusting that people are not allowed to have an opinion.
Annie - if you knew what they did you wouldn't say that.

I'm not watching that...

Annie,
Well then trust me - what they do is disgusting & I don't support them.

Then is just propagandist bullshit to the highest degree.

Being gay doesnt mean you automatically partake in acts such as fisting or eating waste.

Im disgusted that this kind of bullshit sees the light of day.

There is plenty of people that partake in such acts that are not limited to homosexuals.

Im sickened this is your defence of it bobby. I would bet you come into contact with gay people all the time and you wouldnt even have a clue they were gay.

What if they had brown marks on their face?

Then they quite obviously have been eating da poo poo. Grin

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 121273 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Same Sex Civil Unions FINALLY Passed in QLD Reply #74 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 11:37am Yes - brown marks are a giveaway!
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