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########## Ex Member	Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker Reply #45 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:54am Grey wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:43am: Hahahaha Tony is sooo funny. If there's a crisis int the government who's keeping the smile off of his face? He's the leader of the desolation rows. If the government is in 'crisis' then what state is the Opposition ?
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Reply #46 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:55am

juliar wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:50am:

As a refresher on parliamentary procedure just how and when do the speaker and deputy speaker actually vote ?

Does the deputy speaker actually have a normal vote ?

From my understanding,YES, its just the speaker that doesn't have a normal vote, thats why Gizmos comment, in my opinion, is not accurate.

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker Reply #47 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:57am juliar wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:50am: As a refresher on parliamentary procedure just how and when do the speaker and deputy speaker actually vote ? Does the deputy speaker actually have a normal vote ? I'm surprised you're usually up on those sort of things, have you tried to check out the protocol?
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Reply #48 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:57am

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Grey wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:43am:

Hahahaha Tony is sooo funny. If there's a crisis int the government who's keeping the smile off of his face? He's the leader of the desolation rows.

If the government is in 'crisis' then what state is the Opposition Grin

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It is in opposition to government chaos and crisis. Would you have them support it?

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Reply #49 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:57am

skippy. wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:55am:

juliar wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:50am:

As a refresher on parliamentary procedure just how and when do the speaker and deputy speaker actually vote ?

Does the deputy speaker actually have a normal vote ?

From my understanding,YES, its just the speaker that doesn't have a normal vote, thats why Gizmos comment, in my opinion, is not accurate.

Hmmm are you sure skippy??

Ok, I'll have to check..

It seems I was wrong Skippy....
It's the 2nd Deputy Speaker that must be from Opposition...
But the Speaker him/herself is chosen from the ruling party.....So the replacement Speaker will have to be Labor (or Green or Indy)

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########## Ex Member	Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker Reply #50 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 10:00am tweets Abbott : Govt outsmarted me , ego is in crisis & PM must resign. ROFLOL #auspol : ask Abbott about the Mal Coulston affair# auspol So you threaten to dump an MP in a hung Parliament and they rat you out - gee, there's a shock. 1 minute ago
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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker Reply #51 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 10:09am I have a lot of time for Harry, and thought it was average how Oakeshott tried to broker a deal to get himself in the chair. Im expecting Slipper or Oakeshott to take the mantle.
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Reply #52 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 10:11am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:57am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:55am:

juliar wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:50am:

As a refresher on parliamentary procedure just how and when do the speaker and deputy speaker actually vote ?

Does the deputy speaker actually have a normal vote ?

From my understanding,YES, its just the speaker that doesn't have a normal vote, thats why Gizmos comment, in my opinion, is not accurate.

Hmmm are you sure skippy??

Ok, I'll have to check..

It seems I was wrong Skippy....
It's the 2nd Deputy Speaker that must be from Opposition...
But the Speaker him/herself is chosen from the ruling party.....So the replacement Speaker will have to be Labor (or Green or Indy)

If thats the case Slipper will have to resign from the Libs, because its about to be announced that he is the new speaker.

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Reply #53 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 10:15am

skippy. wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 10:11am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:57am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:55am:

juliar wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 9:50am:

As a refresher on parliamentary procedure just how and when do the speaker and deputy speaker actually vote ?

Does the deputy speaker actually have a normal vote ?

From my understanding,YES, its just the speaker that doesn't have a normal vote, thats why Gizmos comment, in my opinion, is not accurate.

Hmmm are you sure skippy??

Ok, I'll have to check..

It seems I was wrong Skippy....
It's the 2nd Deputy Speaker that must be from Opposition...
But the Speaker him/herself is chosen from the ruling party.....So the replacement Speaker will have to be Labor (or Green or Indy)

If thats the case Slipper will have to resign from the Libs, because its about to be announced that he is the new speaker.

If you listen to Tonys speech slipper is finshed OUT Grin

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Reply #54 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 10:33am

The unknown here is what does Prime Minister Bob Brown want to happen.

Does he support Wilkie ?

Does he care if Adam Bandit can be ignored ?

Does he like Slipper who has corruption investigations under way in Queensland ?

Labor still need the Greens in the upper house so they still have to obey uncle Bob's commands.

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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker Reply #55 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 10:57am Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government. Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker Reply #56 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 10:59am Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 10:57am: Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government. Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out. How can heads roll when the liberal party decided to get rid of him. The party, not Abbott.
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Reply #57 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 11:08am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 10:59am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 10:57am:

Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government.

Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.

How can heads roll when the liberal party decided to get rid of him. The party, not Abbott.

Then you would expect that the leadership should be telling the rest of the party to pull their heads in. Either that didn't happen or the party isn't listening.

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Reply #58 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 11:09am

juliar wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 10:33am:

The unknown here is what does Prime Minister Bob Brown want to happen.

Does he support Wilkie ?

Does he care if Adam Bandit can be ignored ?

Does he like Slipper who has corruption investigations under way in Queensland ?

Labor still need the Greens in the upper house so they still have to obey uncle Bob's commands.

As has almost every governments since... I dunno. One term of Howards has been the only exception for quite a while.

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Reply #59 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 11:18am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 10:59am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 10:57am:

Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government.

Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.

How can heads roll when the liberal party decided to get rid of him. The party, not Abbott.

But why would you get rid of a member when you are only 1 bi-election away from government?. Now they are 2 bi-elections which is as good as 2 years away from a crack at government.

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