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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker Reply #150 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 4:54pm Its just as I said..2 yrs is a long time until the next election and its anyones guess what will happen. As it happens Julia has trumped One Trick Tony a la Howard trumping Labor with Mal Colsten. All Abbott could do was yell like a spoilt private school boy that lost his silver spoon
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Reply #151 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:06pm

Gist wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 4:53pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 4:37pm:

one wonders what has happened to parliament in this country...since this lot got in.. deviousness seems to be the go..I would really like to be able to believe in our polliticians..but in all truth not anymore.

to many deal.. and behind the scenes actions.. I dont think its right at all. looks to me like they are more concerned for themselves than any of us..

maybe she is getting ready to dump the pokie reform.or something that will not go down well with her independents..and she needs the buffer or should we be watching THOMO maybe that little boil is coming to a head.....

It's a smart move. They've been negotiating (there's that word again) this deal for weeks at least. Probably since day one of the parliament. Labor never wanted Jenkins as speaker, they just couldn't find anyone else to fill the spot. Now they have.

An as I said before cods, Thompson hasn't even been charged. If he is then that still doesn't change anything. He would need to go to trial. Meanwhile he would be quite entitled to maintain his position just the same as Mary Jo was when her case was before the courts. Look how they managed to drag out that simple assault charge for a week. The Thompson case would be orders of magnitude more complicated. Imagine how long that will run - and then there'd likely be appeals. All that would take ages and we'd be well down the road to the next election and beyond.

Think what you like about Thompson but you can pretty safely kiss goodbye any hopes you have for that one being a game changer.

Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.

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Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Reply #152 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:08pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 3:06pm:

culldav wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 2:49pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 2:43pm:

culldav wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 2:33pm:

I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who scratches her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.

Do you teach your kids to hold that sort of attitude??
Probably best they are away from you being taught by better people.

Look at the last few posts LOL
Soundly out manouvered in the political game all they can do is post ugliness to try & save some sort of face for the Loser of the Opposition.

With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.

Nice to know you think our democracy should be played like a common board game and not taken seriously. Embarrassed

So you had a moral problem with Colston in 96 did you?

You mean the Colston, whose senate vote Howard REFUSED TO ACCEPT? can u imagine Gillard doing that? she already takes a vote from an embezzler.

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Reply #153 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:11pm

Im sure Labor wasnt happy when Mal Colsten went over to the dark side and supported Howard for a good belly scratch every now and then.
Honestly Longy..you really didnt think Labor wouldnt try and shore themselves up and once thats done they will be putting things in place to woo voters at the next election..after all..they have 2 yrs to execute their plans Cheesy

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Reply #154 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:11pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 3:37pm:

FRED. wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 3:35pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 3:29pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 3:21pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 3:03pm:

Now stop with the mummy issues.

Like I said, la la land.

Where have you been anyway lolly? You went missing for a while there. Was beginning to think you may have been sucked out of existence. I gather that's an occupational hazard for a lolly.

I did leave a hint. It is best to ignore the worst government in history and keep your sanity.

A change is as good as a holiday.

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SLIPPER SLIPS INTO HIS LABOR PLACE

Controversy
The colourful MP is no stranger to controversy, hitting the headlines in 2003 for being removed from a flight due to complaints from staff.

Mr Slipper blamed his behaviour on painkillers he had taken after dental surgery, but found himself in hot water again in 2008 for allegedly risking the lives of Defence Force personnel by giving away their position during a tour of the Persian Gulf.

He also infamously linked asylum seekers to terrorism in 2001 at the height of the Tampa controversy.

The Opposition is likely to use these indiscretions in attacks on their former colleague along with questions raised over his spending and entitlement claims.

Mr Slipper has had to pay back more than $20,000 in wrongly claimed entitlements since 1999.

It also emerged that he spent more than twice as much as Prime Minister Julia Gillard in travel expenses during the six months from July to December last year; racking up more than $31,000 in travel costs compared to Ms Gillard's $13,000.

Grin

Slipper is labor's problem now. They attract them don't they. Bit like the girl who attracts only drunks or the bloke who only attract transvestites.

in 2002 a liberal changed sides immediately post election to install a rann minority govt and got the speakers position as a bribe. Peter Lewis was not dissimilar to Peter SLipper in bing up to his neck in controversy and illegaility. when Labor MPs complained about his erratic cna pompous behaviour, Libs just smiled and said "you wanted him. now he is YOUR problem!"

here we go again!

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Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Reply #155 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:12pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 3:06pm:

culldav wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 2:49pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 2:43pm:

culldav wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 2:33pm:

I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who scratches her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.

Do you teach your kids to hold that sort of attitude??
Probably best they are away from you being taught by better people.

Look at the last few posts LOL
Soundly out manouvered in the political game all they can do is post ugliness to try & save some sort of face for the Loser of the Opposition.

With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.

Nice to know you think our democracy should be played like a common board game and not taken seriously. Embarrassed

So you had a moral problem with Colston in 96 did you?

You mean the Colston, whose senate vote Howard REFUSED TO ACCEPT? can u imagine Gillard doing that? she already takes a vote from an embezzler.

Who is the embezzler?

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Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Reply #156 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:16pm

adelcrow wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:11pm:

Im sure Labor wasnt happy when Mal Colsten went over to the dark side and supported Howard for a good belly scratch every now and then.
Honestly Longy..you really didnt think Labor wouldnt try and shore themselves up and once thats done they will be putting things in place to woo voters at the next election..after all..they have 2 yrs to execute their plans Cheesy

Do you remember Howards opinion of Colston at the time? No, I'm sure you didnt. a man of integrity, he denounced the man and his actions. Thats what STATESMEN do. mere politicians like Gillard grasp anythignn that comes their way - ethical or not.

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Reply #157 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:18pm

adelcrow wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:12pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 3:06pm:

culldav wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 2:49pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 2:43pm:

culldav wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 2:33pm:

I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who scratches her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.

Do you teach your kids to hold that sort of attitude??
Probably best they are away from you being taught by better people.

Look at the last few posts LOL
Soundly out manouvered in the political game all they can do is post ugliness to try & save some sort of face for the Loser of the Opposition.

With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.

Nice to know you think our democracy should be played like a common board game and not taken seriously. Embarrassed

So you had a moral problem with Colston in 96 did you?

You mean the Colston, whose senate vote Howard REFUSED TO ACCEPT? can u imagine Gillard doing that? she already takes a vote from an embezzler.

Who is the embezzler?

since you cant even count, I wont tax you with an answer that will require more than you can bring to the party.

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Reply #158 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:18pm

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Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.

Slipper is not an opposition MP he's an independent and that means it's not the ALP that's disintegrating but the LNP. And your leader is coming apart at the seams faster than the hindenburg Grin

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Reply #159 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:22pm

Grey wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:18pm:

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Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.

Slipper is not an opposition MP he's an independent and that means it's not the ALP that's disintegrating but the LNP. And your leader is coming apart at the seams faster than the hindenburg Grin

very clever. now I wait for you to tell me Wayne Swan is an independent. Slipper is a coalition MP you twit.

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Reply #160 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:27pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:22pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:18pm:

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Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.

Slipper is not an opposition MP he's an independent and that means it's not the ALP that's disintegrating but the LNP. And your leader is coming apart at the seams faster than the hindenburg Grin

very clever. now I wait for you to tell me Wayne Swan is an independent. Slipper is a coalition MP you twit.

Correction...was a Coalition MP, he resigned from the LNP and became an Independent after he took up the position of speaker and they were going to bone him at the next election and stick Mal Brough in his seat anyway. So Slipper has everything to gain and nothing to lose from jumping the sinking, rat infested Coalition ship Cheesy

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Reply #161 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:31pm

adelcrow wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:22pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:18pm:

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Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.

Slipper is not an opposition MP he's an independent and that means it's not the ALP that's disintegrating but the LNP. And your leader is coming apart at the seams faster than the hindenburg Grin

very clever. now I wait for you to tell me Wayne Swan is an independent. Slipper is a coalition MP you twit.

Correction...was a Coalition MP, he resigned from the LNP and became an Independent after he took up the position of speaker and they were going to bone him at the next election and stick Mal Brough in his seat anyway. So Slipper has everything to gain and nothing to lose from jumping the sinking, rat infested Coalition ship Cheesy

read up on Slipper and then tell me how good he is. there is a good reason why he is being effectively ejected from the party. the difference is we eject the bad apples that get in the door. Your lot KEEPS them. and even worse preselects them knowing it.

pass. Getting rid of Slipper is a good thing and just like Peter Lewis from SA he will spend a very brief and inglorious moment in the sun hated by all until he is removed from parliament and then to be shunned by everyone from both sides.

and nothing really changes anyhow. a few deck chairs move around but the titanic still has the same captain.

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Reply #162 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:36pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:06pm:

Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.

Adel answered the question longy. Slipper announced his resignation from the Libs to the parliament so he's now an independent. Oakshott even welcomed him as a new independent.

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Reply #163 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:37pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:31pm:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:22pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:18pm:

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Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.

Slipper is not an opposition MP he's an independent and that means it's not the ALP that's disintegrating but the LNP. And your leader is coming apart at the seams faster than the hindenburg Grin

very clever. now I wait for you to tell me Wayne Swan is an independent. Slipper is a coalition MP you twit.

Correction...was a Coalition MP, he resigned from the LNP and became an Independent after he took up the position of speaker and they were going to bone him at the next election and stick Mal Brough in his seat anyway. So Slipper has everything to gain and nothing to lose from jumping the sinking, rat infested Coalition ship Cheesy

read up on Slipper and then tell me how good he is. there is a good reason why he is being effectively ejected from the party. the difference is we eject the bad apples that get in the door. Your lot KEEPS them. and even worse preselects them knowing it.

pass. Getting rid of Slipper is a good thing and just like Peter Lewis from SA he will spend a very brief and inglorious moment in the sun hated by all until he is removed from parliament and then to be shunned by everyone from both sides.

and nothing really changes anyhow. a few deck chairs move around but the titanic still has the same captain.

Thank the Universe for that. If Titanic Australia had a different skipper it'd keep hitting icebergs like that other one. Grin

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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker Reply #164 - Nov 24^th, 2011 at 5:39pm And what's more Slipper anounced his intention of standing again at the next election.
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