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Reply #60 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:44pm

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FriYAY wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 1:21pm:

Let them get married, who cares.

Just don’t expect/force everyone to agree with you that sticking your willy up some other blokes dirty blurter is a good thing.... Undecided

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Indeed, very risky!

At least, one can get cyctitis, that usually needs antibiotic to cure, at most, AIDS.

Hardly a practice that can be sprinkled with Holy Water!

That is why such a relationship needs a different tag to a marriage between heterosexuals - I don't mean stunt- weddings between celebrities but that of a sincere couple planning to raise a family.

What business is it of yours if a couple of gay people want to marry? mind your own bloody business, its interfering, clueless, bigoted fools that cause all the problems in society today.

What business is it of yours if someone doesn't want to lend legitimacy to a gay couple pretending they are married?

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Reply #61 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:48pm

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... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:44pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:27pm:

olde.sault wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:19pm:

FriYAY wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 1:21pm:

Let them get married, who cares.

Just don’t expect/force everyone to agree with you that sticking your willy up some other blokes dirty blurter is a good thing.... Undecided

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Indeed, very risky!

At least, one can get cyctitis, that usually needs antibiotic to cure, at most, AIDS.

Hardly a practice that can be sprinkled with Holy Water!

That is why such a relationship needs a different tag to a marriage between heterosexuals - I don't mean stunt- weddings between celebrities but that of a sincere couple planning to raise a family.

What business is it of yours if a couple of gay people want to marry? mind your own bloody business, its interfering, clueless, bigoted fools that cause all the problems in society today.

What business is it of yours if someone doesn't want to lend legitimacy to a gay couple pretending they are married?

No ones asking for your legitimacy, just to mind your own business, no one tells you who to marry.Now back under your rock.

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Reply #62 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:54pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:48pm:

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... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:44pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:27pm:

olde.sault wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:19pm:

FriYAY wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 1:21pm:

Let them get married, who cares.

Just don’t expect/force everyone to agree with you that sticking your willy up some other blokes dirty blurter is a good thing.... Undecided

Undecided

Indeed, very risky!

At least, one can get cyctitis, that usually needs antibiotic to cure, at most, AIDS.

Hardly a practice that can be sprinkled with Holy Water!

That is why such a relationship needs a different tag to a marriage between heterosexuals - I don't mean stunt- weddings between celebrities but that of a sincere couple planning to raise a family.

What business is it of yours if a couple of gay people want to marry? mind your own bloody business, its interfering, clueless, bigoted fools that cause all the problems in society today.

What business is it of yours if someone doesn't want to lend legitimacy to a gay couple pretending they are married?

No ones asking for your legitimacy, just to mind your own business, no one tells you who to marry.Now back under your rock.

True, noone tells me who to marry specifically, but you and I both know (though I bet you'll pretend not to) that it'd have to be someone of the opposite sex, otherwise it's not a marriage.

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Reply #63 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:04pm

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:54pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:48pm:

Embarrassed

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:44pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:27pm:

olde.sault wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:19pm:

FriYAY wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 1:21pm:

Let them get married, who cares.

Just don’t expect/force everyone to agree with you that sticking your willy up some other blokes dirty blurter is a good thing.... Undecided

Undecided

Indeed, very risky!

At least, one can get cyctitis, that usually needs antibiotic to cure, at most, AIDS.

Hardly a practice that can be sprinkled with Holy Water!

That is why such a relationship needs a different tag to a marriage between heterosexuals - I don't mean stunt- weddings between celebrities but that of a sincere couple planning to raise a family.

What business is it of yours if a couple of gay people want to marry? mind your own bloody business, its interfering, clueless, bigoted fools that cause all the problems in society today.

What business is it of yours if someone doesn't want to lend legitimacy to a gay couple pretending they are married?

No ones asking for your legitimacy, just to mind your own business, no one tells you who to marry.Now back under your rock.

True, noone tells me who to marry specifically, but you and I both know (though I bet you'll pretend not to) that it'd have to be someone of the opposite sex, otherwise it's not a marriage.

You need to get out from under that rock more often, many places allow same sex marriage and it wont be long before Australia join them. I'm not gay, it doesn't do it for me, but I 'll defend anyone's right to legally marry the partner of their choice no matter what sex they are. As I said before, its interfering bigots that are the problem with society. I couldn't care less what you marry if that's what you want, its none of my business, just like its none of yours if a man or woman wants to marry their partner to formalise their relationship.

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Reply #64 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:12pm

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I couldn't care less what you marry if that's what you want, its none of my business, just like its none of yours if a man or woman wants to marry their partner to formalise their relationship.

You're almost correct. It'd be none of my business if a gay couple wanted to formalise their relationship UNLESS they plan to do so by usurping and redefining a recognised and integral social institution. Call it what you want, but marriage already has a definition.

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Reply #65 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:14pm

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I couldn't care less what you marry if that's what you want, its none of my business, just like its none of yours if a man or woman wants to marry their partner to formalise their relationship.

You're almost correct. It'd be none of my business if a gay couple wanted to formalise their relationship UNLESS they plan to do so by usurping and redefining a recognised and integral social institution. Call it what you want, but marriage already has a definition.

Well a lot of the world have changed the definition you hold onto, its about time you said hello to the 21st century.

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Reply #66 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:14pm

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I couldn't care less what you marry if that's what you want, its none of my business, just like its none of yours if a man or woman wants to marry their partner to formalise their relationship.

You're almost correct. It'd be none of my business if a gay couple wanted to formalise their relationship UNLESS they plan to do so by usurping and redefining a recognised and integral social institution. Call it what you want, but marriage already has a definition.

A definition? Great! We'll change it!

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Reply #67 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:25pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:14pm:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:12pm:

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I couldn't care less what you marry if that's what you want, its none of my business, just like its none of yours if a man or woman wants to marry their partner to formalise their relationship.

You're almost correct. It'd be none of my business if a gay couple wanted to formalise their relationship UNLESS they plan to do so by usurping and redefining a recognised and integral social institution. Call it what you want, but marriage already has a definition.

Well a lot of the world have changed the definition you hold onto, its about time you said hello to the 21st century.

You're being a bit generous with your definition of 'a lot'. A few countries have changed, but the vast majority have not, and are not likely to either.

I just noticed that this issue is a lot like the DLS debate - the best reason the 'pro' crowd can come up with in both issues is to 'get with the 21st century' which isn't a reason at all.

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Reply #68 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:28pm

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:25pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:14pm:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:12pm:

Quote:

I couldn't care less what you marry if that's what you want, its none of my business, just like its none of yours if a man or woman wants to marry their partner to formalise their relationship.

You're almost correct. It'd be none of my business if a gay couple wanted to formalise their relationship UNLESS they plan to do so by usurping and redefining a recognised and integral social institution. Call it what you want, but marriage already has a definition.

Well a lot of the world have changed the definition you hold onto, its about time you said hello to the 21st century.

You're being a bit generous with your definition of 'a lot'. A few countries have changed, but the vast majority have not, and are not likely to either.

I just noticed that this issue is a lot like the DLS debate - the best reason the 'pro' crowd can come up with in both issues is to 'get with the 21st century' which isn't a reason at all.

And the best reason the "con" crowd can come up with is that it'll fade the curtains. Which is even less of a reason.

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Reply #69 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:37pm

Gist wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:28pm:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:25pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:14pm:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:12pm:

Quote:

I couldn't care less what you marry if that's what you want, its none of my business, just like its none of yours if a man or woman wants to marry their partner to formalise their relationship.

You're almost correct. It'd be none of my business if a gay couple wanted to formalise their relationship UNLESS they plan to do so by usurping and redefining a recognised and integral social institution. Call it what you want, but marriage already has a definition.

Well a lot of the world have changed the definition you hold onto, its about time you said hello to the 21st century.

You're being a bit generous with your definition of 'a lot'. A few countries have changed, but the vast majority have not, and are not likely to either.

I just noticed that this issue is a lot like the DLS debate - the best reason the 'pro' crowd can come up with in both issues is to 'get with the 21st century' which isn't a reason at all.

And the best reason the "con" crowd can come up with is that it'll fade the curtains. Which is even less of a reason.

That is, if you discount everything the anti-DLS/gay marriage proponents actually say, and just substitute their argument for your own. I've never heard anyone use the faded curtains line, except for pro-DLSers using it to mock their opposition.

Even if you were correct, us antis still have one key factor on our side - the status quo. A prudent judge doesn't change just for the sake of it - if it aint broke, don't fix it.

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Reply #70 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:05pm

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That is, if you discount everything the anti-DLS/gay marriage proponents actually say, and just substitute their argument for your own. I've never heard anyone use the faded curtains line, except for pro-DLSers using it to mock their opposition.

Even if you were correct, us antis still have one key factor on our side - the status quo. A prudent judge doesn't change just for the sake of it - if it aint broke, don't fix it.

But it is broke, that's what you refuse to acknowledge. Glad to hear you're willing to see it fixed though! That means you won't be too disappointed when it happens.

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Reply #71 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:08pm

Gist wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:05pm:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:37pm:

That is, if you discount everything the anti-DLS/gay marriage proponents actually say, and just substitute their argument for your own. I've never heard anyone use the faded curtains line, except for pro-DLSers using it to mock their opposition.

Even if you were correct, us antis still have one key factor on our side - the status quo. A prudent judge doesn't change just for the sake of it - if it aint broke, don't fix it.

But it is broke, that's what you refuse to acknowledge. Glad to hear you're willing to see it fixed though! That means you won't be too disappointed when it happens.

What's 'broke' about it? That conditions on who can enter into it exist?

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Reply #72 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:09pm

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:05pm:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:37pm:

That is, if you discount everything the anti-DLS/gay marriage proponents actually say, and just substitute their argument for your own. I've never heard anyone use the faded curtains line, except for pro-DLSers using it to mock their opposition.

Even if you were correct, us antis still have one key factor on our side - the status quo. A prudent judge doesn't change just for the sake of it - if it aint broke, don't fix it.

But it is broke, that's what you refuse to acknowledge. Glad to hear you're willing to see it fixed though! That means you won't be too disappointed when it happens.

What's 'broke' about it? That conditions on who can enter into it exist?

Glad to see you prove my point.

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Reply #73 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:11pm

Gist wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:09pm:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:05pm:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 4:37pm:

That is, if you discount everything the anti-DLS/gay marriage proponents actually say, and just substitute their argument for your own. I've never heard anyone use the faded curtains line, except for pro-DLSers using it to mock their opposition.

Even if you were correct, us antis still have one key factor on our side - the status quo. A prudent judge doesn't change just for the sake of it - if it aint broke, don't fix it.

But it is broke, that's what you refuse to acknowledge. Glad to hear you're willing to see it fixed though! That means you won't be too disappointed when it happens.

What's 'broke' about it? That conditions on who can enter into it exist?

Glad to see you prove my point.

The paedos, bestialists and polygamists will be glad to hear they have your support if they decide to push for 'equality' too.

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Reply #74 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:25pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:48pm:

Embarrassed

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:44pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:27pm:

olde.sault wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 3:19pm:

FriYAY wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 1:21pm:

Let them get married, who cares.

Just don’t expect/force everyone to agree with you that sticking your willy up some other blokes dirty blurter is a good thing.... Undecided

Undecided

Indeed, very risky!

At least, one can get cyctitis, that usually needs antibiotic to cure, at most, AIDS.

Hardly a practice that can be sprinkled with Holy Water!

That is why such a relationship needs a different tag to a marriage between heterosexuals - I don't mean stunt- weddings between celebrities but that of a sincere couple planning to raise a family.

What business is it of yours if a couple of gay people want to marry? mind your own bloody business, its interfering, clueless, bigoted fools that cause all the problems in society today.

What business is it of yours if someone doesn't want to lend legitimacy to a gay couple pretending they are married?

No ones asking for your legitimacy, just to mind your own business, no one tells you who to marry.Now back under your rock.

The problem is that it'll bring marriage down to its lowest denominator. Folks won't bother so, you'll have gays going for the ceremony and heterosexuals, shacking up.

Parents have to set an example and I can't imagine a child (however begotten) brought up in a gay household.

As children are apt to follow the example of their carers, I suspect conflicting emotions and bullying at school.

Most kids don't want to be seen as different by fellow-students.

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