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A Typical Payday Loan Has A Intrest Rate Of 400 PC
Oct 31st, 2011 at 10:22am
 
A MAN who claims he was trapped in a debt nightmare after being recklessly granted dozens of payday loans has launched a legal challenge against Cash Converters.   Huh

Disability support pensioner Ronald Hayes claims he was forced to rely on food handouts after he was given at least 64 payday loans in three years.   Sad

The Consumer Action Law Centre says Australia's biggest short-term lender will be put under the microscope in the Magistrates' Court.

Mr Hayes alleges that two Cash Converters companies breached consumer credit laws.

But Cash Converters spokesman Glenn Donaldson said that the company would vigorously defend any allegations that it had engaged in predatory or unfair behaviour.

Mr Hayes says he had to rely on family, friends and charities for food as his pension was eroded by loan repayments.  

"Sadly, consumer organisations like ours see cases like this on a regular basis," Consumer Action chief Catriona Lowe said.   Sad


"People take out a loan to help pay their bills, but when the repayments are direct-debited out of their account, they find they don't have enough money left to live off and they go back for another loan."   Sad

The payday lending industry is fighting a Federal Government proposal for a cap on fees and interest.

Critics say that a typical payday loan has an annualised interest rate of more than 400 per cent.   Shocked
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Reply #1 - Oct 31st, 2011 at 10:41am
 
Cash Converters makes Shylock look like a nice guy Wink

Can you believe that Cash Converters is a publicly listed company on the Australian Stock Exchange !!

Just remember that the next time you walk into a Cash Converters store and see a second hand drill 3 times the price of what you can buy a new one in Bunnings Cheesy LOL

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Cash Converters International (CCV) is a franchised retail network listed on the ASX and London Stock Exchange. It specialises in the sale of second-hand goods. The Cash Converters group employs modern retailing practices, professional management techniques and high ethical standards to the management of its stores throughout the chain which appeal to a wide cross section of the community. As a result, Cash Converters has been able to position its outlets as credible retail merchandise stores, resulting in a profitable market for the group.

The range of services offered by Cash Converters stores around the world varies with pawn-broking loans available in selected markets, as well as a personal finance business that operates, in various forms in the micro-lending category around the world.
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Critics say that a typical payday loan has an annualised interest rate of more than 400 per cent. 


That's criminal.
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Reply #3 - Oct 31st, 2011 at 10:52am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 10:47am:
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Critics say that a typical payday loan has an annualised interest rate of more than 400 per cent.  


That's criminal.


It can't be, crime doesn't pay Grin
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Reply #4 - Oct 31st, 2011 at 10:55am
 
Well, in order to get those loans, he must have been able to prove that he could afford to repay them....

If he said that he could, when he actually couldn't, how is it Cash Converters fault???   ( other than not realising he hadn't repayed the last one)...
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Reply #5 - Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:02am
 
It is Cash Converters fault that they charge such exorbitant interest to desperate people.
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Reply #6 - Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:08am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:02am:
It is Cash Converters fault that they charge such exorbitant interest to desperate people.


Not really......any short term loan has high interest, because they aren't measured over years, rather weeks or months...

Even a pawn broker runs at about 300% to 600%, because the term is usually 30 to 60 days....
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gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 10:55am:
Well, in order to get those loans, he must have been able to prove that he could afford to repay them....

If he said that he could, when he actually couldn't, how is it Cash Converters fault???   ( other than not realising he hadn't repayed the last one)...


what is the proof then ??
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Reply #8 - Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:19am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:13am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 10:55am:
Well, in order to get those loans, he must have been able to prove that he could afford to repay them....

If he said that he could, when he actually couldn't, how is it Cash Converters fault???   ( other than not realising he hadn't repayed the last one)...


what is the proof then ??


Have you ever applied for a loan, either short or long term, nails??

The first question they ask is "can you afford the repayments?"......the standard is that the repayments cannot be more than 1/3 of your income....

Even the Centrelink advances use that formula......and the rate is $75.00 per month on a $500 amount, repaid over 9 months (which means you repay $675.00)

Granted, the company shouldn't have allowed so many......if the situation is THAT bad, he must have defaulted on at least some of the earlier ones, or had trouble repaying them....
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Reply #9 - Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:22am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:08am:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:02am:
It is Cash Converters fault that they charge such exorbitant interest to desperate people.


Not really......any short term loan has high interest, because they aren't measured over years, rather weeks or months...

Even a pawn broker runs at about 300% to 600%, because the term is usually 30 to 60 days....



So?

Just because other short term loans charge similar interest rates doesn't make it okay; it just shows the problem is widespread.
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Reply #10 - Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:28am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:22am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:08am:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:02am:
It is Cash Converters fault that they charge such exorbitant interest to desperate people.


Not really......any short term loan has high interest, because they aren't measured over years, rather weeks or months...

Even a pawn broker runs at about 300% to 600%, because the term is usually 30 to 60 days....



So?

Just because other short term loans charge similar interest rates doesn't make it okay; it just shows the problem is widespread.



Yeah, maybe.....but still, why would you keep getting the loans if you have problems making the repayments??
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Reply #11 - Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:34am
 
Because he needed to meet living expenses and had even less to do it than when he was originally in trouble because of the chunk going to Cash Converters. Says so in the article:


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"People take out a loan to help pay their bills, but when the repayments are direct-debited out of their account, they find they don't have enough money left to live off and they go back for another loan."
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Reply #12 - Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:35am
 

Poverty is such a vicious cycle - poor people chase their own tails and end up paying more for many things that others take for granted...

Being late to pay utility bills attracts escalating fees and/or interest penalties - as does making small cash and eftpos withdawals...

Pre-paid phone and internet contracts typically cost much more...

Poor people don't have the cashflow to avoid interest on credit accounts - and/or pay day lending...

Poor people can't afford to buy and store food and other groceries in bulk to take advantage of specials - and often end up paying inflated prices at local shops...

Many poor people (those who can afford a car in the first instance) top their petrol tanks in small increments and only when the red light comes on - often when petrol is at its most expensive...

Most poor people either cannot afford insurance at all - or end up paying more for the 'privilege' of paying by the month...

All of this cumulative financial disadvantage places untold stress on individuals and families...

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gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:28am:
Yeah, maybe.....but still, why would you keep getting the loans if you have problems making the repayments??



Desperation!

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Reply #14 - Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:40am
 
Equitist wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:39am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 31st, 2011 at 11:28am:
Yeah, maybe.....but still, why would you keep getting the loans if you have problems making the repayments??



Desperation!




Yah, but let's not forget stupidity either....
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