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BETEARS New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19 Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #150 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 1:10pm SIlence reigns. What a shock, NOT. Damned God freaks, no belief in themselves or their fictitious "God". WHat did we expect? A serious challenge and they go to water. Anyone got the guts or belief to take up my challenge. Answer - NO WAY, WE MIGHT LOSE.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #151 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 4:43pm BETEARS wrote on Jan 25^th, 2012 at 3:45pm: An atheist simply KNOWS there is no God. I've got one. I bought it from a stall in Africa. I therefore know there is a god.
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Reply #152 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 5:01pm

BETEARS wrote on Jan 25^th, 2012 at 3:45pm:

What a smacking stupid question. "How atheist are you"? You are either atheist or you are not.

I am atheist and there is no God. End of fantasy.

The fact you ask such a stuoid question says blatantly "I don't know what atheism is" You see, there is NO belief or belief system required. An atheist simply KNOWS there is no God.

Usually through a personal quest. Mine was looking positively for a God I needed many moons ago. I ended up turning to the Bible as humans could not give an answer other than "You just have to believe".

Well, no, I don't. I believe things which are true and of which there is evidence.

Now given there has never been even a shred of evidence of a God since the dawn of time I am not waiting. I have decided, it's a fiction and, having read the Bible and researched it, I also know where and when and who created religion.

I know too who wrote the Bible, the first time. Do you?

You want to debate this, stand on up and I'll shred you in a few posts as you will NOT have answers tio my questions. I will also prove you have NOT read the Bible nor understood it.

How atheist are you? buggered in the head question. How pregnant are you? Oh, just a little bit.

The challenge is there, won't take long.

In fact I'll give you a head start. Is the Beast, the devil, whatever you call it real. Did it ever exist and what was it or is it. You don't know this do you. It prov4es there is no hell, just the mind of man putting ourselves through hell. I've done that too. It's called depression, deep depression. That's hell.

You want another head start. Tell me what you make of Jesus's time alone in the desert, fighting demons. What happened there etc?

I look forward to no response from you moron.

There never was and never will be a God. Someone once said it in a roundabout way. They said "If God didn't exist then man would create him". Well, he didn't so man did create him. When, where and why? Surely you have these answers.

Why knock this creation of man? A bit arrogant and stupid. You are frothing too much and people are not responding because they are polite.

Hamlet and Lear are not 'real' just as your great-great-great-great grandfather isn't, yet they are meaningful. The Law is not real, except in the way it is enacted. Same with love and hate and sorrow and the rest of it.

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Reply #153 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 8:47pm

Muse, you've been breathing too much sulphur dioxode mate. You confuse Gods with gits.

Oh, I get it. I'm dealing with a complete idiot. Someone who has NO convictions. Don't mistake facts for frothing, dick.

Just say you have no idea at all and make it all up as you go along. For that's what you do isn't it?

Add coward to the list of titles you enjoy.

"How atheist are you?" That tells me your IQ is not above double figures else you'd know it's a yes or no thing.

The reference to my great,..... grandfather is sheer crap. Of he was was ansd still is real. I know where he's buried.

Hamlet et al are not real as you say. They are stories, just like the Bible. They are not "meaningful", it is just some guys idea of morals conveyed in a poetic story line.

Meaningful. Are you the damned black spot by any chance. Then OUT.

SHow some guts, try and answer. Was there a Beast, devil etc. Is God the perfect Creator. Surely you have SOME answers.

Why "knock" this creation of man"? Who mentioned the creation of man, I didn't so it must be you. Do expand and tell us how mankind was created. Oh please enlighten us.

And don't dare mention evolution or any time before 6000 years ago will you.

You are a bloody Creationist. Correct?

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BETEARS New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19 Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #154 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 8:49pm Or just tell us all ONE thing. Have you read the Bible. Yes or no.?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #155 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 8:54pm BETEARS wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 8:49pm: Or just tell us all ONE thing. Have you read the Bible. Yes or no.? Yes. Are you an angry, incoherent frother? Yes or no?
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BETEARS New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19 Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #156 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 7:35am So you have read the Bible have you? Then tell me what the time Jesus spent alone in the desert was all about? Tell me if you believe God was the perfect Creator. SImple, easy questions. Try them. I'll ignore your tripe as it has nothing to do with anything, I am never incoherent.
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Reply #157 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 9:57am

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Hamlet and Lear are not 'real' just as your great-great-great-great grandfather isn't, yet they are meaningful. The Law is not real, except in the way it is enacted. Same with love and hate and sorrow and the rest of it.

Interesting perspective but devoid of reason. Love, hate and sorrow are not abstracts, they're real human emotions. Law is abstract, often an ass, but arguably useful on balance; the same can said for Father Christmas. The only use gods have is for those wishing to divide and conquer.

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Reply #158 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 10:28am

Well said Grey,

This person has no faith in his professed beliefs and avoids every issue that will prove him a liar.

Says he has read the Bible. Hmm, I've yet to meet anyone who really has read the entire Bible so questions I pose him will send him looking for answers which he won't find as it needs to be read in it's entirety.

Correct stsatement re the use of the God concept. It's just a political tool, as is the author of this thread, without the political. Just a tool.

Still your turn Richard, the Third of course. But all was
silent. Seemsd this person denies Jesus more than thrice.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #159 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:43pm Betears - tell me, are you an ex-Evangelical or something? They make the craziest atheists. Ex-Mormons are stir-crazy too.
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Reply #160 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:48pm

Put em up- put em up.

You assume way too much, but you are amusing enough, so far.

So what you are saying is that regardless of definition, you know for a fact that no Gods exist. Atheist is not a word I use to describe myself, because I don't think it's very useful.

I sometimes refer to myself as an atheistic theist. I believe that if a bunch of people believe in something enough, the effect will be something similar to tangible existence.

An example of this is money. If you live in a cave, don't spend money and if somebody gives you some plastic/ paper currency, you might think that it would be useful as tinder. (You want me to give you my goat for a handful of leaves? What kind of idiot are you?) Something to get the wood burning perhaps? However, if you are like most of us, you believe in money and participate in the financial scene to some extent. You are a religious person. Do you disagree? What is your definition of religious? Maybe it's different from mine. What is your definition of god? How does it differ from other people's definition. What makes my definition of god (social phenomenon) worse than yours? Who gets to choose?

What I'm getting at is that without a universal definition of god, you'll find it difficult to come up with a universal definition of atheist.

A god is an imaginary thing that some people worship. My wooden god is called a god by some people, and they worship it.

Look, you seem to be going on about the Bible a hell of a lot. Are you a fundamentalist or something? - or just an anti-Christian?

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #161 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 1:53pm Soren wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 8:54pm: BETEARS wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 8:49pm: Or just tell us all ONE thing. Have you read the Bible. Yes or no.? Yes. Are you an angry, incoherent frother? Yes or no? That would be a yes.
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Reply #162 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 3:24pm

BETEARS wrote on Jan 25^th, 2012 at 3:45pm:

What a smacking stupid question. "How atheist are you"? You are either atheist or you are not.

I am atheist and there is no God. End of fantasy.

The fact you ask such a stuoid question says blatantly "I don't know what atheism is" You see, there is NO belief or belief system required. An atheist simply KNOWS there is no God.

Usually through a personal quest. Mine was looking positively for a God I needed many moons ago. I ended up turning to the Bible as humans could not give an answer other than "You just have to believe".

Well, no, I don't. I believe things which are true and of which there is evidence.

Oh BETEARS,

Oh omniscient one,

Mankind does not know [even] the extent of our universe.

But you have effectively said that you, yourself, are omniscient.
....because you looked for God, and you did not find him.

ERGO, you know that God does not exist.

Dictionary;
omniscient = = in possession of all knowledge.

BETEARS,
So you are claiming to be omniscient ? ["I am atheist and there is no God."
]

I don't believe you,
....because i don't have any evidence that you are omniscient.

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Reply #163 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 4:25pm

Avoided again. Loser, fake and false claims. Cannot back up his own little story.

The Om word is not one I claimed at all. You bestowed it on me, falsely as usual. You do notice the Om reference and it's importance don't you?

Your logic is non existant. You take one statement and extrapolate it into something completely irrelevant. Something twisted away in your pointy little head. If you think knowing there is no God gives one that power then be very afraid as there are a lot of us.

I know there is no God and so do millions and millions of atheists. You know how? There is and has never been even a shred of proof of such a being. Prayers are never answered except by coincidence.

Get some proof and then return, else, go forth and multiply, preferably with yourself.

Challenge : Write a prayer here, meaningful and let's see if it's answered.

Can't do, can you as it will not be answered.

If I do become all knowing I'll let you know. Until then I'm not. I just know the fact. No God, now, past or future. No proof, no God.

Your continued evasion and derision is typical of people with low IQ's. Make claims, avoid it when they are challenged and attack the person challenging them. No guts, just cowards.

Frankly you belong in a home for those without sufficient ways of supporting themselves, believing in that crap.

Still afraid to test your Bible knowledge little man? Obviously you are.

Let's make it even easier then. How far into the Bible does it become obvious it's a fraud, a story book for minds of 2000 years ago and not minds of today.

Cain't get simpler than that but let's help you. There are at least two such statements in the first couple of pages of Genesis. So you only have to read 2 pages to answer. Reading them for the first time too aren't you? Find the flaws. Where is Wally?

A round of laughter for this dickhead. Can't live without the crutch of thinking someone else will look after you. Poor baby, still looking for Mummy. For that's what a belief in God truly is "I want my Mommy!!!" Sniff, sniff.

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Reply #164 - Jan 27^th, 2012 at 5:13pm

Betears, Technically, you could call me an atheist, but you certainly don't speak for me. It's your logic that's out the window here.

I'd suggest that you're in a very small minority among Atheists when you say that you know God does not exist. That's why I'm suspicious.

Yadda - you're wasting your time. This guy has more faith than you. Grin

- and if he keeps up the personal insults, I think he'll be getting a holiday soon.

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