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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #195 - Jan 30^th, 2012 at 11:08am Yadda wrote on Jan 30^th, 2012 at 10:50am: as they say.... OK. I won't . Can I poke them with a stick then?
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #196 - Jan 30^th, 2012 at 11:12am double up.
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Reply #197 - Jan 30^th, 2012 at 11:56am

BETEARS wrote on Jan 30^th, 2012 at 8:15am:

I am one such.

Yes you are, Mr Google Grin

and I'm an atheistic theist. I just choose to define god as being immanent without any mystical or supernatural elements. That doesn't mean "totally explainable". Human beings are not totally explainable, and the effect of the mass of humanity interacting and networking together certainly leads to a collective intelligence that transcends each individual in a society. Is that God? Well some people call it that.

If people get nervous about aspects of finance, it has a tangible effect. It's the same with the "God within". That's not totally at odds with Abrahamic belief either.

Did God create the universe? Er just a minute, I'll just check Wikipedia (Catholics and CIA eh? Whoa!) ... That would be a yes.... and no. Put it this way - I'll probably do just great in life without having an absolute answer to that question, and so will everybody else - except you (the one who knows) . Maybe the Deists are right. That just requires a minimalist non-interventionist god, as opposed to the whole package complete with gold frankinsense, and that other stuff that's good for rheumatism.

Does God exist? I'll leave that to Soren. He's a ratbag philosopher. He could rattle off reams on epistemology. I mean ontology.

Does Harry Potter exist? I'll test you for it.

Does Harry Potter

A. Have round Specs
B. Have a friend called Hermione Granger
C. Practice the dark arts
D. All of the above
E. Dumb, dumb, run away little moronic man. He doesn't exist. (and J K Rowling is penniless)

Am I therefore an agnostic? No, I'm an ignostic if anything, but I prefer not to have labels attached to me. I think you and Yadda might define God totally differently, so what's the point about arguing until you're blue in the face about the existence or otherwise of two separate things? One is a personal experience and the other is some cartoon cutout of a grey haired Charlton Heston look-alike on a cloud.

Do you like sugar in your coffee? What's your favourite colour? (let me guess - it's red). You see, to me these questions have about the same level of importance as whether you call something god or nature, or human nature. It's a question of individual taste or judgement.

The question of deities is not important for me. If you're an atheist, it shouldn't really be important for you either. In fact, go on like that and you'll end up with high blood pressure.

It's just a craving, and cravings cause suffering.

namaste

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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #198 - Jan 30^th, 2012 at 3:50pm In science, nothing can be proved to be true. But you can prove things to be useful to believe in, (or not). 'I don't believe in god', is Atheist shorthand for 'there's a 99.999 recurring chance of god not existing.
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Reply #199 - Jan 30^th, 2012 at 3:57pm

Grey wrote on Jan 30^th, 2012 at 3:50pm:

In science, nothing can be proved to be true. But you can prove things to be useful to believe in, (or not).

'I don't believe in god', is Atheist shorthand for 'there's a 99.999 recurring chance of god not existing. Grin

Don't you believe in my sociological god? It's quite convincing Grin

Fair comment though, albeit (a)monotheistically phrased Wink

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Reply #200 - Jan 31^st, 2012 at 3:04am

Although I'm not a practicing Religious person besides writing on Forums and doing other paperwork in life.
I can definately say that I'm not ANTI-Religious like an Atheist is and I don't wear black skivvies and have a musical/scientific (Occidental) background ...which seems the norm for Atheists if you suss out the Australian Atheist Forum (AFA) which I got banned from for saying how "Religious they 'read & write' upon their Forum" Grin

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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #201 - Jan 31^st, 2012 at 3:06am A true Atheist should never read or write (an expression born from Religion - hence Holy 'Books' ). ...like a Republican should always work the Queen's Birthday Holiday and not collect Penalty Rates for doing so.
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Reply #202 - Jan 31^st, 2012 at 8:04am

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jan 31^st, 2012 at 3:06am:

A true Atheist should never read or write (an expression born from Religion - hence Holy 'Books' Roll Eyes

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...like a Republican should always work the Queen's Birthday Holiday and not collect Penalty Rates for doing so.

LOL. A "true atheist" should have a sense of humour. By the way, I asked God for a sign about Betears, and when I was looking through my telescope the other night, I got this reply.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #203 - Jan 31^st, 2012 at 9:25am muso wrote on Jan 30^th, 2012 at 11:56am: Does God exist? I'll leave that to Soren. He's a ratbag philosopher. He could rattle off reams on epistemology. I mean ontology. And teleology, Mr Forgetful.
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Reply #204 - Jan 31^st, 2012 at 9:25am

More irrelavant ranting from Muso, not to be read at all. An in depth reply from Soren stating all he knows about this topic. Yes, it's blank, just a stupid smile indicating lack of IQ.

Then this was Jas :

"A true Atheist should never read or write ". What? This is a nonsense. ATheists have the freedom to write and say what they want. The religious do not and should not. You got it backwards buddy. And this :

"I don't wear black skivvies and have a musical/scientific (Occidental) background". Well good for you Jas. I don't either. Skivvies are for bogans. and the 60's. You see a couple of photos of some fools and apply it to all. Usual Christian logic, being none.

Correct Grey. Except a true atheist says "I know there is no God".

You see Dear Grey. If one uses the word "belief" it implies room for doubt and it is on that basis I agree with you.

But true atheists KNOW there is no God. No beliefs or belief system required. Do try to be more precise with your use of the language.

There is no God.

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Reply #205 - Jan 31^st, 2012 at 9:55am

BETEARS wrote on Jan 31^st, 2012 at 9:25am:

There is no God.

.......Probably. Nice picture of the agnos.. er the atheist bus:

http://www.atheistbus.org.uk/

Now stop worrying and enjoy your life. (I've never met such a religious atheist before.)

BETEARS wrote on Jan 31^st, 2012 at 9:25am:

You see a couple of photos of some fools and apply it to all. Usual Christian logic, being none.

Mate, only one actual Christian has replied to you so far, and he has given you up as a bad joke.

Quote:

Betears: I see Christians.
In your dreams?
[Betears shakes his head ]
While you're awake? [nods]
Christian people like, in churches, in prayer?
Betears: Walking around like regular people. They don't see each other. They only see what they want to see. They don't know they're Christian.
-How often do you see them?
Betears: All the time. They're everywhere.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #206 - Jan 31^st, 2012 at 10:14am muso wrote on Jan 31^st, 2012 at 9:55am: Mate, only one actual Christian has replied to you so far, and he has given you up as a bad joke. Which goes to show that some Christians are far smarter than some atheists.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #207 - Jan 31^st, 2012 at 2:08pm Soren wrote on Jan 31^st, 2012 at 10:14am: muso wrote on Jan 31^st, 2012 at 9:55am: Mate, only one actual Christian has replied to you so far, and he has given you up as a bad joke. Which goes to show that some Christians are far smarter than some atheists. Which just goes to show that atheists have more fun.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #208 - Feb 1^st, 2012 at 6:35am Soren wrote on Jan 31^st, 2012 at 9:25am: muso wrote on Jan 30^th, 2012 at 11:56am: Does God exist? I'll leave that to Soren. He's a ratbag philosopher. He could rattle off reams on epistemology. I mean ontology. And teleology, Mr Forgetful. Gee, that would come in handy if your computer gets a virus.
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BETEARS New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19 Gender:	Re: How Atheist Are You? Reply #209 - Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 2:35pm There aren't any Christians on this site. Just buggerwits and trolls. Keep banging on at each other .
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