Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13
th, 2011 at 5:54pm:
You did not provide the verse for stoning in the Quran, you provided 2 verses that made no mention of stoning.
The hadith you cited claimed the verse had been revealed and read, why is it missing from the Quran if Bukhari said it had been revealed?
You have not provided this missing verse in the quran falah
The word "stoning" is not mentioned in the verse, but is referred to with the word "punishment". Part of the job of a prophet is to explain the scriptures to the people. Prophet Muhammed did this by ordering the stoning of the married adulterers. I already gave you the verse that order Muslims to obey the prophet. So stoning does not need to be directly mentioned in the Quran if it is mentioned by the Prophet.
God says (interpretation of the meaning): “He who obeys the Prophet has indeed obeyed God . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:80]
“O you who believe! Obey God and obey the Prophet...” [al-Nisaa’ 4:59]
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13
th, 2011 at 5:54pm:
Which Caliph was in charge when the Quran was finally complied Falah how many years after Mohammads death did it take?
The Quran was preserved in the hearts of the companions of Prophet Muhammed, who had memorized it, and it was also written on the trunks of trees and on thin white stones. After the prophet passed away, Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq, (the companion of the Prophet and 1st of the Roshidoon Caliphs.) became concerned that too many of those who had memorised the Quran had been martyred in the wars that engulfed the Islamic state during his Caliphate. Abu Bakr conducted a meeting with remaining senior companions of Prophet Muhammed concerning the idea of compiling the entire Quran in one book so that it would be preserved and would not be lost, and this task was entrusted to the great hafiz Zayd ibn Thaabit and others who had written down the Revelation during the life of Prophet Muhammed on the separate fragments.
Al-Bukhaari recorded in his book Saheeh that Zayd ibn Thaabit said:
“Abu Bakr As-Siddeeq sent for me when the people of Yamamah had been killed (i.e., a number of the Prophet's Companions who fought against Musaylimah). (I went to him) and found Umar bin al-Khattaab sitting with him. Abu Bakr said (to me):
"Umar has come to me and said: “Casualties were heavy among the memorisers of the Quran (i.e. those who knew the Qur’aan by heart) at the Battle of Yamaamah, and I am afraid that more heavy casualties may take place among the memoriser of the Quran on other battlefields, whereby a large part of the Qur'an may be lost. Therefore I suggest that you [Abu Bakr] should issue orders that the Quran be collected.” I said to Umar, “How can you do something that the Prophet of God (peace and blessings of God be upon him) did not do?" Umar said, “By God, this is something good.” ‘Umar kept on urging me (to accept his proposal) until God opened my heart to it and I began to realize the good in the idea which Umar had realized.’ "
Then Abu Bakr said (to me):
"You are a wise young man and we have a great deal of confidence in you. You used to write down the Revelation for the Prophet of God (peace and blessings of God be upon him). So you should seek out the Quran [i.e., the fragments on which Zayd had already written it during the lifetime of Prophet Muhammed] and collect it (in one book).’ By God, if they had ordered me to move one of the mountains, it would not have been harder for me than this command to collect the Quran.
I said (to Abu Bakr): "How can you do something which the Messenger of God (peace and blessings of God be upon him) did not do?’ Abu Bakr said, ‘By God, it is a good thing.’ Abu Bakr kept on urging me (to accept his proposal) until God opened my heart to it as He had opened the hearts of Abu Bakr and ‘Umar. So I started to look for the Quran and collected it (the fragments on which Zayd had already written it) from palm-stalks, thin white stones and (verified it with) the hearts of men (i.e., from men who knew it by heart), until I found the last verse of Surat al-Tawbah with Abu Khuzaymah al-Ansaari (who had also been a companion of Prophet Muhammed), and I did not find it with anybody other than him. The verse is :
‘Verily, there has come unto you a Prophet from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty…’
[al-Tawbah 9:128 – interpretation of the meaning]
… until the end of Soorat al-Tawbah.
This was done very soon after Prophet Muhammed passed away - and there were still many people alive who had memorised the Quran during his lifetime who could verify that the compiled Quran was true to the original.
About twenty years later, the 3rd Caliph, Uthman, who had also been a companion of Prophet Muhammed, had a Quran made that had a particular ordering of the chapters - previously there was no specified chronological order for the chapters.
About 50 years after Prophet Muhammed had passed away, the Ummayad Caliph, Abdulmalik ibn Marwan, commanded that the dots and lines be added to the Quran to help non-Arabs read the Quran. Arabs did not need the dots and lines, but as more non-Arabs were converting to Islam, it was deemed necessary to make it easier for non-Arabs to read. Even today, most non-Quranic texts do not feature the vowel lines above and below Arabic letters because Arabs can easily read without them.
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