The Primary purpose of the occupy Wall Street Movement is to end human economic inequality - everything else is secondary to that - any environment policy must be filtered through that objective.  The most important thing in peoples lives is the arbitrary distribution of wealth, the control of corporations over the economy and the greed of corporations.  These people reject Austerity - they will not tolerate any more Austerity measures imposed by the rich and any energy measure must not economically strain the poorest people.  If by curbing growth you are talking about imposing Austerity on the people then this protest movement is not for you, you are supporting corporate greed.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 1:55am:


I went to Dignity Funerals on Saturday and asked if any funeral plans were on the list of services for a Mr A Abbott. I was told that no such funeral was planned.

Please may I know when the political death of A Abbott is planned. Are you associated with:

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You keep predicting A Abbott's political death but you don't deliver.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 6:04am:




AP friends of mine many years ago worked in Johannesburg SA.. she told us how the blacks didnt know how to spend their money.. for instance they bought TV sets.. when they didnt have electricity... she laughed... I asked her why they didnt have electricity and she couldnt tell me..this was before Mandella..these people lived on the edge of the white world..

and from what little I have seen it hasnt changed much in all this time..these are towns or dumps if you like very close to the big cities..I agree its disgraceful.. and instead of spending all this money on bloody talkfest.. In Durban regarding climate change... the money could do a lot more good I am thinking.

we are too far up ourselves really... I have just had an email from olive regarding the American debt.,. I would love to send it to you its an eye opener.. scary is not the word.

when I think of world debt... and look at the poverty I cant help but ask Y. the debt doesnt seem to have changed a bloody thing for the better

You know, if we stopped giving 'sit down money' to the dregs of society, they wouldn't have the coin to splurge on superfluous consumerist crap like mag wheels, garish jewellery and iphones.  So obviously demand for this sort of rubbish would wane, so the supply of them would also decrease, thus decreasing emissions, thus saving the world, without having to resort to bogus new taxes.
But that leads us to yet another instance when the beliefs of the left contradict themselves.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 4:11pm:


Indeed.  The problem is with those who become accustomed to it, and feel it is owed to them. 
Ever notice that the average car has a lot of accoutrements in low socio-economic areas?  That's MY taxes paying for these bludgers to put spoilers, tints and mags on their cars. 
Ever notice how fat people are in these same areas?  They're obviously not starving...

I am fed up with bailouts being given to Private banks and corporations all over the world =- we cannot continue to operate on this basis propping up uncompetitive banks and corporations with the tax payers money and its all the more reason why we should set up social banks in competition with the private sector.  Private industry only has a place if it is self sustaining, competitive, creating jobs and wealth for Australians and paying taxes.  Its been proven time and time against that private sector is not competitive unless the Government is a major employer and market participant as well.

cods wrote on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 8:20am:

When you're playing with monopoly money debt to some is simply/ACTUALLY leverage!