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Sep 26th, 2011 at 10:55am
 
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Ich bin ein Boomer. The most privileged, most profligate generation in human history - my generation, the baby boomers (most often defined as those born 1946 to 1964) - drove the world for the past decade to this moment of reckoning, running up a gigantic bill that has now come due. Responsibility for this bill lies mainly with the boomer-and-bust generation, but the cost will be borne by all.

The three great economies of the advanced world - the US, the European Union and Japan, with their 940 million people - did not get to the level of debt stress and wealth destruction we are witnessing without being made to pay a real price. That price is structural change, a decline in expectations and lower living standards.

We will see a return to the more frugal times of previous generations, when expectations were lower, houses were smaller, and consumption was fuelled by what we could afford, not what we could borrow.

Advertisement: Story continues below Economies do not spend and borrow their way out of problems caused by spending and borrowing, especially when much of the borrowing was used to fund consumption and a culture of entitlement. The process of restoring the overall balance sheet of the West will take time. Japan was first to inflate an asset bubble and its economy has been stagnant for more than a decade.

We are now in the fourth year of a financial contagion that began in the US in 2007, spread to western Europe and, because of political failure on all sides of the Atlantic and Pacific, is larger now than when the global financial system melted down briefly in 2008.

That crisis was urgent and dramatic, and the world's banking system has since been shored up, but it was smaller in scale than the sovereign debt overhang of today.

All because of procrastination, denial and dissembling by the political class in the US, the EU and Japan - the class which benefits most from big government.

Though this is a crisis of capitalism and consumerism, it is not caused by the systems themselves, which have been dynamic wealth-generating forces improving the living standards of billions of people to levels not seen before. This is a crisis of consumption and self-absorption, a desire for more than was needed or expected by previous generations. It is a crisis of moral and economic obesity.

It is also a crisis for the bureaucratic class, the principal beneficiary of government spending and control. The International Monetary Fund is a classic example. In 2007, when the IMF was run by the socialist satyr Dominique Strauss-Kahn, it issued a World Economic Outlook which said that the risk of any systemic failure in the global economy was extremely low. Within months, the US banking system fused, jolting the global economy.

The present malaise, far from being a crisis of markets, shows just how well markets do their job. They are injecting reality into the global financial and political grid. They are challenging the wishful thinking coming out of Brussels, Washington and Tokyo.

As with all problems that are avoided rather than confronted, the debt overhang in the US, the EU and Japan have grown deeper since 2008 and the markets are demanding action. Consider what happened in the past week:

A continued run on major French banks, via their stock prices, because of their exposure to the unsalvageable debt implosion of Greece.

Germany and France are leading negotiations to create a $2.8 trillion bailout program to firewall the European Union against its debt mountain and a default by Greece.

The US sharemarket capitalisation plunged to its lowest level since October 2008, the full onset of the US solvency crisis.

China's debt bubble, its $1.7 trillion in local government debt, largely ignored in the West, is showing measurable stress. This will constrain Beijing's ability to respond to the slowing global economy.

The value of the Australian sharemarket fell again, taking stocks to 42 per cent below their historic peak in October 2007. The All Ordinaries index is down almost 20 per cent for the year and back to where it was in mid 2005.

Australia, with low debt and China's growth, should be largely immune to the worst of the deleveraging process, but the falling sharemarket and plunge in the dollar showed that immunity is only partial.

Low consumer confidence in Australia and terrible poll numbers for the federal government reflect the precarious legitimacy of the Labor government, with its record of badly managed spending binges, its unleashing of wage inflation, its rapid run-up of $100 billion in debt and its imposition of a carbon tax.

The debt mountain causing a global economic slowdown is a product of failures by both the left and right of politics.

In the US, stagnation was fermented by bad legislation, lax lending standards, toxic debt and massive military adventurism.

Europe's debt problem was driven by excessive government spending to fund an unsustainable welfare state.

In Japan, it was policy and reform sclerosis, an asset price bubble, and excessive government spending.

All weaknesses were exploited and exacerbated by casino capitalism, the largely unregulated financial derivatives markets designed to keep the financial system honest but in effect betting on everything and building nothing.
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In the centre of all this was the baby boom-and-bust generation, fattening its world with debt. Much of that debt will be left behind for the generations next in line. The bill has only now arrived.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/greed-of-boomers-led-us-to-a-total-bus...
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Reply #2 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 10:59am
 
Deborahmac09 wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 10:55am:
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Ich bin ein Boomer. The most privileged, most profligate generation in human history - my generation, the baby boomers (most often defined as those born 1946 to 1964) -




The only thing I totally disagree with is that those of us born in '64 are refered to as 'boomers' I have nothing in common with those hippie losers.


I'm Gen X and proud of it. 8)

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Reply #3 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 11:37am
 
I think that article is very skewed. Most of us baby boomers led a fairly austere life until we began work. Many households didn't have TV and there were no mobile phones - but there was a high standard of education. We had to use our imaginations and actually work rather than sit around playing computer games and chatting on our phones and computers day and night.

We didn't stay at home with our parents either, but entered the workforce as soon as we could. I don't recall there being a dole either - so when you left home - you worked. You had no choice.

Now the boomers are the ones with property - and perhaps this is because they did without so much when they were younger. Most of the financial managers and whiz kids today are Generation X and play with their client's cash as though it's monopoly money.

Try and get Gen X to go without and save their cash. Just their technology and extravagant lifestyle ensures they're broke by the end of the week. Saving is something they have no interest in.

If the boomers saved instead of spent - perhaps Generation X should have followed their lead.

I would say that Gen X & Y would be the most prolific, spoilt and wasteful of the generations to date.


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I would say that Gen X would be the most prolific, spoilt and wasteful of the generations to date.



I blame their parents...who just happen to be baby boomers.
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... wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 11:42am:
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I would say that Gen X would be the most prolific, spoilt and wasteful of the generations to date.



I blame their parents...who just happen to be baby boomers.



Most parents want to give their kids a better start than they had. It is not until later that they realise they didn't have it so bad.
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Reply #6 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 11:49am
 
... wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 11:42am:
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I would say that Gen X would be the most prolific, spoilt and wasteful of the generations to date.



I blame their parents...who just happen to be baby boomers.


Although I'm not sure I like what you say Wesley - I often find myself agreeing with you.

Yes it's our fault our children are so spoilt and wasteful - even though we were taught not to be. I also think it's the fault of our media. Unless we removed televisions from our homes - our kids have been caught up in this consumeristic world.



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... wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 11:42am:
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I would say that Gen X would be the most prolific, spoilt and wasteful of the generations to date.



I blame their parents...who just happen to be baby boomers.



FFS, are you people for real, the boomers bred gen Y and if that isn't the most self centred, self-absorbed bunch of entitled brats, then I don't know who is.

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BigOl64 wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 11:52am:
... wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 11:42am:
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I would say that Gen X would be the most prolific, spoilt and wasteful of the generations to date.



I blame their parents...who just happen to be baby boomers.



FFS, are you people for real, the boomers bred gen Y and if that isn't the most self centred, self-absorbed bunch of entitled brats, then I don't know who is.




When no-good-punk-kids commit some low act, you could set your watch by the predictable chorus of 'I blame the parents'....funny how that principle flies right out the window when people are forced to confront the collective guilt of their own group.  It's perhaps unfair to blame a whole generation, but who holds the reins of power, and therefore must shoulder the lions share of the blame in this increasingly bleak world?  That's right - Baby boomers.  

I've got no love for Gen Y as a whole, but they didn't become this way of their own accord.  The climate that allowed them to become this way was created by the baby boomer generation.
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Reply #9 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 1:04pm
 
The baby-boomers bought all the property they could for investment purposes and they had the businesses that they sold to overseas companies.....so

Gen X (their offspring) found it hard to get into the property market because mum and dad boosted real estate prices so that home ownership was out of reach, they also wanted pay rises which encouraged people to outsource.....so

Gen Y are finding it hard to get a job or a house because they still want the huge wages that gen x have.....so


we sold our jobs to other countries who have come over here and bought our houses with the money from our jobs.....so

Gen Y are STUFFED!.........for the moment because

Gen baby boomer and gen X are all about to go BUST and Gen Y get to start over from the bottom.
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Reply #10 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 1:29pm
 
Most of the baby boomers started out at the bottom too. Admittedly Gen Y won't have the opportunities to buy cheaper homes the way their parents did, but perhaps as they learn how hard life really is - they'll grow up and become responsible.

Gen Y might be prolific spenders and in a lot of debt, but they are also learning to work hard to pay off that debt, perhaps harder than their parents had to because their needs were less.

They will learn frugality eventually - like their grandparents experienced and some hardship might not be a bad thing in the long term.
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Reply #11 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 1:34pm
 
It's not about generations for gawds sake , it's about systems and individuals. Blaming generations is like blaming race. I'm not offended, but it's just plain wrong. I'm not greedy, many of us aren't. Some of all generations are.

Of course many boomers, myself included, see the generations after us as wankers Smiley We took on the system, we saw wrong and tried to right it, often succeeding. We took on racism, sexism and a useless pointless war. Subsequent generations don't even see what's wrong.
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Reply #12 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 1:34pm
 
Mantra, there is a difference between needs and wants.
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Reply #13 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 1:48pm
 
Deborahmac09 wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 1:34pm:
Mantra, there is a difference between needs and wants.


I know the difference Deborah - but some people don't. Even with mobile phones as an example - some of us are content with any old thing that does the job, but Gen X and Y seem convinced that they need that Iphone or Blackberry. They can't tell the difference between their wants and needs.
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Reply #14 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 1:50pm
 
Grey wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 1:34pm:
It's not about generations for gawds sake , it's about systems and individuals. Blaming generations is like blaming race. I'm not offended, but it's just plain wrong. I'm not greedy, many of us aren't. Some of all generations are.

Of course many boomers, myself included, see the generations after us as wankers Smiley We took on the system, we saw wrong and tried to right it, often succeeding. We took on racism, sexism and a useless pointless war. Subsequent generations don't even see what's wrong.



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