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Reply #285 - Sep 27th, 2011 at 9:32pm
 
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There's no point arguing with white trash.

They're born trash and their instinctive need is to inflict suffering on an underclass (or perceived underclass) lower than their own.

They're under-educated and morally bankrupt.. That's their cultural inheritance. They cannot ascend or be saved from themselves. Every country must endure their own version. Ours is the likes of this poster.




Nice to see you claim to be all about compassion and tolerance when it comes to boaties, yet you still manage to fulfil your innate need to have a designated 'other' to vilify, in your case "white trash".   
You can't take the moral high ground without exposing your shocking hyopcrisy when you go and spout off about people who are 'born trash' any more than the people you berate for doing the exact same thing to people who are 'born black' or 'born afghani.'

but you just stay in denial if that helps.
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Reply #286 - Sep 27th, 2011 at 9:33pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 5:47pm:
The handfull of people who seek asylum in this country every year is sweet bugga all compared to the rest of the planet.




This is showing ignorance for the topic. Its not a hand-full of refugees/asylum seekers showing up; there’s 1,000 of them that are costing the Australian payers $100’s of millions to house and process.

Not to mention that 80% of refugees/asylum seekers are still on welfare benefits after 5 years.  So what is that additionally costing the Aussie tax payers in welfare and Department of Housing properties?
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Reply #287 - Sep 27th, 2011 at 9:40pm
 
culldav wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 9:33pm:
adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 5:47pm:
The handfull of people who seek asylum in this country every year is sweet bugga all compared to the rest of the planet.




This is showing ignorance for the topic. Its not a hand-full of refugees/asylum seekers showing up; there’s 1,000 of them that are costing the Australian payers $100’s of millions to house and process.

Not to mention that 80% of refugees/asylum seekers are still on welfare benefits after 5 years.  So what is that additionally costing the Aussie tax payers in welfare and Department of Housing properties?


More than twelve thousand have arrived since Rudd beat Howard, with over 100 boats arriving in Julia's first full twelve months after the election. That's not a "handful" - that's a sh*tload.
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Reply #288 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 6:31am
 
... wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 9:32pm:
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There's no point arguing with white trash.

They're born trash and their instinctive need is to inflict suffering on an underclass (or perceived underclass) lower than their own.

They're under-educated and morally bankrupt.. That's their cultural inheritance. They cannot ascend or be saved from themselves. Every country must endure their own version. Ours is the likes of this poster.




Nice to see you claim to be all about compassion and tolerance when it comes to boaties, yet you still manage to fulfil your innate need to have a designated 'other' to vilify, in your case "white trash".    
You can't take the moral high ground without exposing your shocking hyopcrisy when you go and spout off about people who are 'born trash' any more than the people you berate for doing the exact same thing to people who are 'born black' or 'born afghani.'

but you just stay in denial if that helps.

Firstly, there fella, I wasn't taking a moral stand regarding the character or plight of people arriving by boat. My point from the start was and is that there is no offence under Australian law that criminalises the act of arriving in Australia or the seeking of asylum without a valid visa.

As for white trash, I believe that most if not nearly all Australians who are hysterical about 'boat people' are from an Australian underclass and are probably the progeny or cultural inheritors of those near 10% who voted NO in the 67 Referendum. These people are our white trash whose common goal (as it is with all underclass) is to inflict suffering on a people they consider (or want established as) an underclass lower than their own. They are likely under-educated and/or culturally, ethically and morally bankrupt who are most visible on Australia (Abuse-an-Immigrant) Day.

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Reply #289 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 6:34am
 
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I,m still waiting for anybody to quote the actual Law that says it is illegal to enter Australia to claim asylum.
Any takers?



And just becasue I can't quote the law that states it is illegal to piss in the queens face, that must mean it's my right, nay, my DUTY to do so?


That would be assault would it not? And I think you'll find assault is illegal. Try it... Piss in a cops face... See how you go Grin
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Reply #290 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 6:41am
 
culldav wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 5:34pm:
Really nice to know Alevine you and your idiot mates think its ok to put a child’s life in danger…

A common tactic of the 10%... Deflect their hysteria about people arriving in Australia by boat towards "concern" for the welfare of asylum seekers' kids.

Its the "We're fighting in Afghanistan to save women from oppression" tactic Grin
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Reply #291 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 6:49am
 
Asylum-seekers who come by boat are not illegal immigrants.

The Migration Act 1958 allows for entry to Australia without a visa for the purpose of seeking asylum.



MIGRATION ACT 1958 - SECT 189

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ma1958118/s189.html


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"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....
 
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Reply #292 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 7:15am
 
adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 5:47pm:
The handfull of people who seek asylum in this country every year is sweet bugga all compared to the rest of the planet.



Mmmm, better to wait till it becomes a flood before acting eh.
How very very Labor of you, Juliar would be proud.
Because that is what Greece has done, and now it's too late for them to act because the 2200 are fronting up every week of the year irrespective of the fact the country is broken under the weight of government debt.
And in Australia, whether it's a trickle or a flood, using criminals to smuggle someone across our border isn't something the government needs to sponsor via weak and ineffective border protection laws.
Because this trickle is now costing the nation billions each year.
Perhaps a few more boatloads being smashed to pieces on the rocks being shown on live TV coverage, or mysteriously disappearing at sea with all lost might give pause eh.
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Reply #293 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 7:23am
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 7:15am:
adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 5:47pm:
The handfull of people who seek asylum in this country every year is sweet bugga all compared to the rest of the planet.



Mmmm, better to wait till it becomes a flood before acting eh.
How very very Labor of you, Juliar would be proud.
Because that is what Greece has done, and now it's too late for them to act because the 2200 are fronting up every week of the year irrespective of the fact the country is broken under the weight of government debt.
And in Australia, whether it's a trickle or a flood,
using criminals to smuggle someone across our border isn't something the government needs to sponsor via weak and ineffective border protection laws.

Because this trickle is now costing the nation billions each year.
Perhaps a few more boatloads being smashed to pieces on the rocks being shown on live TV coverage, or mysteriously disappearing at sea with all lost might give pause eh.




Which criminals and what laws have they broken?
Is it a crime to skipper a boat to Australia ?
They are not smugglers, they do provide a means that asylum seekers can get here, I,m not sure if they are committing a crime by doing this.
As  far as I know these people are not charged with anything,but I could be wrong.
I do know they are sent back to wherever they came from, but are they charged with a crime?


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Reply #294 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 7:35am
 
scope wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 7:23am:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 7:15am:
adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 5:47pm:
The handfull of people who seek asylum in this country every year is sweet bugga all compared to the rest of the planet.



Mmmm, better to wait till it becomes a flood before acting eh.
How very very Labor of you, Juliar would be proud.
Because that is what Greece has done, and now it's too late for them to act because the 2200 are fronting up every week of the year irrespective of the fact the country is broken under the weight of government debt.
And in Australia, whether it's a trickle or a flood,
using criminals to smuggle someone across our border isn't something the government needs to sponsor via weak and ineffective border protection laws.

Because this trickle is now costing the nation billions each year.
Perhaps a few more boatloads being smashed to pieces on the rocks being shown on live TV coverage, or mysteriously disappearing at sea with all lost might give pause eh.




Which criminals and what laws have they broken?
Is it a crime to skipper a boat to Australia ?
They are not smugglers, they do provide a means that asylum seekers can get here, I,m not sure if they are committing a crime by doing this.
As  far as I know these people are not charged with anything,but I could be wrong.
I do know they are sent back to wherever they came from, but are they charged with a crime?



Congratulations, you are wrong.
The boats are eventually destroyed, and the crew spend 2 or so years at her majesties pleasure in Darwin prison.
Whether it's drugs or people, it doesn't matter.
Smuggling is a crime.
This isn't just skippering a boat to Australia, the passengers are being charged $10K each with some of the crew coming back on their second voyage simply because the sentence the courts hand out is nowhere near the maximum allowable.
And the cost being charged per person takes into account the crew will be out of action for 2+ years at a time.
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"Another boat, another policy failure from the Howard government"

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Reply #295 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 8:23am
 
THIS will be one to keep an eye on ...






Smuggling challenge sent to higher court

September 12, 2011


A CHALLENGE to Australia's people smuggling laws based on the rights of asylum seekers to enter the country will be referred to Victoria's highest court.

Lawyers for an accused people smuggler had asked the Victorian County Court to halt his case while a challenge to the law was heard by a higher court.
Today, Victorian County Court chief judge Michael Rozenes ruled the questions of law should be considered by the Victorian Court of Appeal.
The court heard similar questions have been referred to the Northern Territory's highest court for consideration.
Judge Rozenes joked it would be a race between the courts to see who could decide the matter first.
He said the Victorian Court of Appeal may decide it does not want to hear the case given the question of law is already before a Northern Territory court.

Last month, a lawyer for accused people smuggler Jeky Payara, 20, argued
under international law
, asylum seekers are permitted to come to Australia and make a claim for asylum

To prove a charge of people-smuggling, prosecutors must argue a person had no right to come to Australia, the lawyer Saul Holt said.


Mr Payara has pleaded not guilty to
aggravated people-smuggling, a new criminal offence created last
year that carries a mandatory five-year jail sentence
.

A ruling on the question of law would set a precedent that could affect 33 trials in Victoria and many more across Australia
.



http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/smuggling-challenge-sent-to-higher-court/st...




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Reply #296 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 8:26am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 8:23am:
THIS will be one to keep an eye on ...






Smuggling challenge sent to higher court

September 12, 2011


A CHALLENGE to Australia's people smuggling laws based on the rights of asylum seekers to enter the country will be referred to Victoria's highest court.

Lawyers for an accused people smuggler had asked the Victorian County Court to halt his case while a challenge to the law was heard by a higher court.
Today, Victorian County Court chief judge Michael Rozenes ruled the questions of law should be considered by the Victorian Court of Appeal.
The court heard similar questions have been referred to the Northern Territory's highest court for consideration.
Judge Rozenes joked it would be a race between the courts to see who could decide the matter first.
He said the Victorian Court of Appeal may decide it does not want to hear the case given the question of law is already before a Northern Territory court.

Last month, a lawyer for accused people smuggler Jeky Payara, 20, argued
under international law
, asylum seekers are permitted to come to Australia and make a claim for asylum

To prove a charge of people-smuggling, prosecutors must argue a person had no right to come to Australia, the lawyer Saul Holt said.


Mr Payara has pleaded not guilty to
aggravated people-smuggling, a new criminal offence created last
year that carries a mandatory five-year jail sentence
.

A ruling on the question of law would set a precedent that could affect 33 trials in Victoria and many more across Australia
.



http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/smuggling-challenge-sent-to-higher-court/st...






Unbelievable buzz, no doubt all done at taxpayers expense.
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Reply #297 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 8:31am
 

yes, it'll ALL be at our expense.

I have changed my stance on the illegals.
Blow them out of the water using the RAAF.
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Reply #298 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 8:40am
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 7:35am:
scope wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 7:23am:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 7:15am:
adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 5:47pm:
The handfull of people who seek asylum in this country every year is sweet bugga all compared to the rest of the planet.



Mmmm, better to wait till it becomes a flood before acting eh.
How very very Labor of you, Juliar would be proud.
Because that is what Greece has done, and now it's too late for them to act because the 2200 are fronting up every week of the year irrespective of the fact the country is broken under the weight of government debt.
And in Australia, whether it's a trickle or a flood,
using criminals to smuggle someone across our border isn't something the government needs to sponsor via weak and ineffective border protection laws.

Because this trickle is now costing the nation billions each year.
Perhaps a few more boatloads being smashed to pieces on the rocks being shown on live TV coverage, or mysteriously disappearing at sea with all lost might give pause eh.




Which criminals and what laws have they broken?
Is it a crime to skipper a boat to Australia ?
They are not smugglers, they do provide a means that asylum seekers can get here, I,m not sure if they are committing a crime by doing this.
As  far as I know these people are not charged with anything,but I could be wrong.
I do know they are sent back to wherever they came from, but are they charged with a crime?



Congratulations, you are wrong.
The boats are eventually destroyed, and the crew spend 2 or so years at her majesties pleasure in Darwin prison.
Whether it's drugs or people, it doesn't matter.
Smuggling is a crime.
This isn't just skippering a boat to Australia, the passengers are being charged $10K each with some of the crew coming back on their second voyage simply because the sentence the courts hand out is nowhere near the maximum allowable.
And the cost being charged per person takes into account the crew will be out of action for 2+ years at a time.


You have a problem understanding what a question is?
I was asking questions not making a statement, therefore I am not wrong, but you are because you failed  to see the questions marks.

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Reply #299 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 8:46am
 
scope wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 8:40am:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 7:35am:
scope wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 7:23am:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 7:15am:
adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 5:47pm:
The handfull of people who seek asylum in this country every year is sweet bugga all compared to the rest of the planet.



Mmmm, better to wait till it becomes a flood before acting eh.
How very very Labor of you, Juliar would be proud.
Because that is what Greece has done, and now it's too late for them to act because the 2200 are fronting up every week of the year irrespective of the fact the country is broken under the weight of government debt.
And in Australia, whether it's a trickle or a flood,
using criminals to smuggle someone across our border isn't something the government needs to sponsor via weak and ineffective border protection laws.

Because this trickle is now costing the nation billions each year.
Perhaps a few more boatloads being smashed to pieces on the rocks being shown on live TV coverage, or mysteriously disappearing at sea with all lost might give pause eh.




Which criminals and what laws have they broken?
Is it a crime to skipper a boat to Australia ?
They are not smugglers, they do provide a means that asylum seekers can get here, I,m not sure if they are committing a crime by doing this.
As  far as I know these people are not charged with anything,but I could be wrong.
I do know they are sent back to wherever they came from, but are they charged with a crime?



Congratulations, you are wrong.
The boats are eventually destroyed, and the crew spend 2 or so years at her majesties pleasure in Darwin prison.
Whether it's drugs or people, it doesn't matter.
Smuggling is a crime.
This isn't just skippering a boat to Australia, the passengers are being charged $10K each with some of the crew coming back on their second voyage simply because the sentence the courts hand out is nowhere near the maximum allowable.
And the cost being charged per person takes into account the crew will be out of action for 2+ years at a time.


You have a problem understanding what a question is?
I was asking questions not making a statement, therefore I am not wrong, but you are because you failed  to see the questions marks.



Point taken.
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