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Reply #15 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 11:40am

Soren wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 11:01am:

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:31am:

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On what grounds would they make such a declaration?

Who needs a basis? On what basis did the 2% minority of Jews in Palestine decide they wanted Palestine for their own?

The place was called Israel, they were called Israelites - it seemed a perfect fit.

They were a terrorist gang of Anglo/Russian Ashkenazi Jews who called themselves Zionists. They treat the Sephardim, the Jews who maintained a good relationship with other Semites in the ME, with little more respect than Palestinians. Sephardim like Mordechai Vanunu. They should listen more to the Sephardim, who could at least teach them how to pray, a skill they are going to need.

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Jewish Settlers Destroy Fruit Trees, Burn Crops Reply #16 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 9:38pm Quote: The place was called Israel, they were called Israelites - it seemed a perfect fit. 2000+ years ago, _parts_ of it were called Israel. And that has what exactly to do with today? 500+ years ago Spain was called Andalus... bring back the Andalucians?
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Reply #17 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 10:32pm

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 9:38pm:

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The place was called Israel, they were called Israelites - it seemed a perfect fit.

2000+ years ago, _parts_ of it were called Israel.

And that has what exactly to do with today? 500+ years ago Spain was called Andalus... bring back the Andalucians?

You don't need to bring back anything. Andalucia is still where it's always been.

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Reply #18 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 11:02pm

When the Muslims conquered Spain, the Jews welcomed them because they had been persecuted by the Christians.

The Jews would even hold a city or town after it had been conquered so that the Muslims could advance on to the next town or city.

Ironically, generations later, when the Jews realised that they couldn't take over Islamic Spain, they financed the Christians to retake Spain.

Their reward for their efforts? The Spanish inquisition.

There are a lot of lessons to be learnt in history.

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Jewish Settlers Destroy Fruit Trees, Burn Crops Reply #19 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 12:04am Andalucia referred to the entire Iberian peninsula, not just a tiny province in the south.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Jewish Settlers Destroy Fruit Trees, Burn Crops Reply #20 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 12:06am abu_rashid wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 12:04am: Andalucia referred to the entire Iberian peninsula, not just a tiny province in the south. Yeah, a bit like Israel, no? That wasn't just a sliver on the coast back in the mist of time, what?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Jewish Settlers Destroy Fruit Trees, Burn Crops Reply #21 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 9:27am There's no evidence any Hebrew kingdom ever occupied the entire land that is now occupied-Palestine. Either way, that map you posted of Andalucia, you think Muslims should have a right to take that part back?
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Reply #22 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 10:58am

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 9:27am:

There's no evidence any Hebrew kingdom ever occupied the entire land that is now occupied-Palestine. Either way, that map you posted of Andalucia, you think Muslims should have a right to take that part back?

WHat do you mean back? Do you mean that there is a Mohammedan principle whereby every colonising power has the right to regain its former colonies?

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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: Jewish Settlers Destroy Fruit Trees, Burn Crops Reply #23 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 11:20am Soren wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 10:58am: WHat do you mean back? Do you mean that there is a Mohammedan principle whereby every colonising power has the right to regain its former colonies? I can't believe he doesn't see his own hypocrisy on his stance on Israel.
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Reply #24 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 12:17pm

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Do you mean that there is a Mohammedan principle whereby every colonising power has the right to regain its former colonies?

Actually it seems to be a Western principle.

And apparently the statute of limitations on this insane idea doesn't even get eroded after 2000+ years, ludicrous isn't it?

Glad you finally are engaging in some introspection, good job, there's hope yet.

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Reply #25 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 5:01pm

This is the thing about the sons of Mohammad: you always, always talking out of both corners of your mouths, whether selling carpet or agitating for Pallo statehood.

You admit historic precedence only if it serves your expansionist outlook (worldwide ummah and all that shite). So you want right of return everywhere but nobody has any right of return to what you have once succesfully conquered. You can conquer violently or by stealth but others can't conquer off you.

ALso, when you are pinned down with your indefensible sharia bvllshit (eg dhimmitude, apostasy, subjugation of women, barbaric onquests and hunger for booty, etc) , you immediately come up with some other d!ckhead who has behaved just like you in the past (Pol Pot, Hitler) and so you can say that you are not the only baddies or the worst baddies in this or that particular type of despicable cionduct. However, you always studiously avoid the central issue, namely that you do all your crazy bloodthirsty nonsense in the name of Allah or Mohammed, nether of whom are particularly savoury characters and certainly no role models for any sane person.

Your stupid doctrines and backward, barbaric ideology is never, ever, ever under critical review. ANyone who dares to suggest tht it should b is shouted down as an islamophobe.

DO you know what the clinical psychological term is for this utter lack of critical self-awareness? It is called narcissism.

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