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Reply #15 - Sep 25th, 2011 at 10:01am
 
Yadda wrote on Sep 24th, 2011 at 9:31pm:
But deceitfully, you moslems never reveal, that the 'Crusades' were the 'child' of moslem banditry, murder, and oppression, and the 'child' of the moslem enslavement of peaceful Christian pilgrims, travelling to Jerusalem [i.e. Zion].


The Crusades began with the lies of the Christian Pope Urban II.


A speech given by Urban II in 1095 reveals his lies:


"[Muslims have] invaded the lands of Christians and has depopulated them by the sword , pillage and fire...[Muslims] destroyed the churches...They circumcise the Christians...When they wish to torture people by a base death, they perforate their navels, and dragging forth the extremity of the intestines, bind it to a stake; then with a flogging they lead the victim around until the viscera having gushed forth the victim falls prostrate..."


This incitement to hatred was based on lies.


The reality was that Christian lived peacefully under Muslim rule.


In fact, it was under the Crusaders that Christians in the Middle East faced danger.


The first towns to face massacre at the hands of Crusaders were Christian towns.


When the Crusaders eventually arrived in Jerusalem, they slaughtered everbody man, woman and child in the city - a large percentage of whom were Christians.


Yes Crusaders slaughtered thousands of Christians. Their crime? They had been living under Muslim rule!


In Jerusalem, the Crusaders slaughtered 70, 000 civilians! Muslims, Christians and Jews all massacred even the suckling babes.

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Reply #16 - Sep 25th, 2011 at 10:04am
 
The historian J. W. Draper writes of the contrast between the Muslim conquest of Jerusalem with the Crusader capture of the same city 4 centuries later:

The capture of Jerusalem...was attended by the perpetration of atrocities almost beyond belief.
What a contrast to the conduct of the Arabs!


When the Khalif Omar took jerusalem, A.D. 637, he rode into the city by the side of the Patriarch Sophronius, conversing with him on its antiquities. At the hour of prayer, he declined to perform his devotions in the Church of the Resurrection, in which he chanced to be, but prayed on the steps of the Church of Constantine; "for," said he to the patriarch, "had I done so, the Musselmen in a future age would have infringed the treaty, under colour of imitating my example."

But, in the capture by the Crusaders, the brains of young children were dashed out against the walls; infants were thrown over the battlements; every woman that could be seized was violated; men were roasted at fires; some were ripped open, to see if they had swallowed gold; the Jews were driven into their synagogue, and there burnt; a massacre of nearly 70,000 persons took place; and the pope's legate was seen "partaking in the triumph."
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Reply #17 - Sep 25th, 2011 at 10:13am
 
French Abbot Raymond of Agiles, an eyewitness to the Crusader crimes in Jerusalem, wrote:

“When our men took the main defences, we saw astonishing things amongst the Saracens. Some were beheaded, and that’s the least that could happen to them. Others were pierced through and so threw themselves from the heights of the walls; others after having suffered at length were thrown in to the flames.”

Raymond continues: “We could see in the roads and in the places of Jerusalem bits and pieces of heads, hands, and feet. Everywhere we could only walk through cadavers. But all that was only little…” He wrote the Mosque of Omar; “There was so much blood in the old temple of Solomon that dead corpses swam in it. We could see hands floating and arms that went to glue themselves to bodies that were not theirs; we could not distinguish which arm belonged to which body. The men who were doing the killing could hardly bar the smoke from the corpses.” (Abbot Raymond of Agiles; in G. Le Bon: LA Civilisation des Arabs; Syracuse; 1884, p 249).



Previously, in 1098, Crusaders had captured Ma’arat an’Numan, a Syrian city near Aleppo. Christian chronicler Robert the Monk wrote:

“‘Our men …. walked through the roads, places, on the roofs, and feasted on the slaughter just like a lioness who had her cubs taken from her. They cut into pieces, and put to death children, the young and the old crumbling under the weight of years. They did that in groups…our men grabbed everybody who fell into their hands....Streams of blood ran on the roads of the city; and everywhere lay corpses. Oh blinded nations and destined to death; none of that multitude accepted the Christian faith. At last Bohemond brought out all those he had first invited to lock themselves in the tower of the place. He ordered that all old women be put to death, and also old men, whose age had rendered useless; then all the rest he ordered to be take to Antioch to be sold as slaves. This massacre of the Turks took place on 1 December (1098); on Sunday; but on this day not all work could be accomplished; so the following day our men killed the rest.



Radulph of Caen: “In Maarra our troops boiled pagan adults in cooking pots they impaled children on spits and devoured them grilled.” (In Janet Abu Lughod: Before European Hegemony; OUP, 1989 p.107). William of Tyre said common practices for crusaders to roast and eat flesh of Turks.


William of Tyre: “The place was inundated with the blood …. We could not watch without horror that multitude of deaths, their limbs scattered laying on the ground on all sides, and the flood of blood inundating the surface of the ground.”[7]

Raymond of Aguilers commented: “It was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers … the city was filled with corpses and blood.”
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Reply #18 - Sep 25th, 2011 at 10:37am
 
As for your claims of Muslim banditry, it was actually the Christian Crusaders who were bandits.

In fact, it was one such Crusader attack on caravan of Muslim pilgrims that led to the fall of the Crusader city of Hattin and eventually to the liberation of Jerusalem itself.

Crusader leader Reynald of Chatillon made a fatal mistake of not only repeatedly breaking truces he made with Muslims, but by also attacking a caravan that carried Saladin's sister.

After this, Saladin vowed to kill Reynard with his own hands. Within months, the Muslims had their first major victory conquering Reynard's Crusader city at Hattin.

The Muslims gained confidence from this great victory and in a short time most Crusader cities were conquered; Jaffa, Haifa, Caesarea, Arsuf, Nazareth, Sabastieh and Nablus.

Within 3 months of Reynard's attack on the pilgrimage caravan carrying Saladin's sister, Jerusalem was liberated by Saladin's armies.
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Reply #19 - Sep 25th, 2011 at 12:02pm
 
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"[Muslims have] invaded the lands of Christians and has depopulated them by the sword , pillage and fire...[Muslims] destroyed the churches...They circumcise the Christians...When they wish to torture people by a base death, they perforate their navels, and dragging forth the extremity of the intestines, bind it to a stake; then with a flogging they lead the victim around until the viscera having gushed forth the victim falls prostrate..."


Not much has changed in the last millennium regarding Christian truthfulness when it comes to Islam and Muslims has it? Still the same old lies and propaganda, to justify coming in and invading and murdering Muslims.
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Reply #20 - Sep 25th, 2011 at 1:12pm
 
It doesn't matter who has committed the most atrocities; any culture can be immoral when viewed from another's perspective. What matters is who has power. And the West and Israel have the power.

The West and Israel = strong, winners
The rest = weak, losers.

The world is the will to power and nothing besides.
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Reply #21 - Sep 25th, 2011 at 3:41pm
 
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The West and Israel = strong, winners
The rest = weak, losers.


That's a pretty shallow way to look at things. Strength regularly wanes, might does not make right. The truth and the right is not with the West & Israel, and that will eventually be their downfall.
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Reply #22 - Sep 25th, 2011 at 9:07pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Sep 25th, 2011 at 3:41pm:
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The West and Israel = strong, winners
The rest = weak, losers.


Strength regularly wanes, might does not make right.



If Christianity has been waning for 200 years, Islam has for 700. There is no way of taking things up from where they were 200/700 years ago. Some Christians perceive that, most Muslims, especially the ones like you, dont.




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The truth and the right is not with the West & Israel, and that will eventually be their downfall.


The west and the jews can renew themselves. Islam cannot, because of the amazingly stupid 'last word' clause. Anyone who can't renew is buggered. Islam is therefore buggered. You are in your last throes as you can neither be like you were in the 7th century nor make adaptations to the present - whether it's the 21st c or beyond. Your downfall is due to your stupidity of imagining the world only through the eyes of a 7th century Arab with an itch in his pants.
There is no transcending a randy old priapic merchant.

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Reply #23 - Sep 25th, 2011 at 11:01pm
 
Although I think you'd genuinely like to believe this stuff Soren, your [over-]reaction (and that of Western 'civilisation' in general) to Islam suggests you don't believe it for a second.
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Reply #24 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 9:33am
 
The West has always been dismissive of Islam for the reason I outlined. There is nothing new in this.  The only way Islam knows is back - back to the past. But as everyone else knows, there is no 'going back'.
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Reply #25 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 11:01am
 
Soren wrote on Sep 25th, 2011 at 9:07pm:

....The west and the jews can renew themselves. Islam cannot, because of the amazingly stupid 'last word' clause. Anyone who can't renew is buggered. Islam is therefore buggered. You are in your last throes as you can neither be like you were in the 7th century nor make adaptations to the present - whether it's the 21st c or beyond. Your downfall is due to your stupidity of imagining the world only through the eyes of a 7th century Arab with an itch in his pants.
There is no transcending a randy old priapatic merchant.




Hmmm, a new word.

Dictionary;
priapic = =
1 phallic.
2 having a persistently (and painfully) erect penis.





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Reply #26 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 2:40pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Sep 25th, 2011 at 3:41pm:
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The West and Israel = strong, winners
The rest = weak, losers.


That's a pretty shallow way to look at things. Strength regularly wanes, might does not make right. The truth and the right is not with the West & Israel, and that will eventually be their downfall.


Any morality can be justified from a perspectival position. You can spare me your morality grounded in metaphysical mumbo-jumbo, as I know people gravitate to the morality they do because it benefits them personally in some way. You cannot extract the morality from the person espousing it.
You would only too well like to have the power to impose your morality on others. Yet you lack this.
Th West and Israel have the power and this is what makes its detractors so angry.
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Reply #27 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 9:43am
 
ordinary Arabs must wish the whole of the Middle East was run by the Jews:

The life of a 17-year-old Palestinian girl from Rafah in Gaza was saved by Kaplan Medical Centre doctors after she fell from a malfunctioning ferris wheel near her home and was critically injured.

Three months after the accident, she is out of danger, but her doctors are trying to collect funds to enable her to undergo abroad a small-intestine transplant, which is unavailable here.

“I wish for peace between us and Israel,” Abir Abu-Nakira said. “Kaplan physicians saved me.”

Dr. Yoram Klein, director of the trauma and urgent surgery department in the Rehovot hospital, said Abir was brought to Kaplan after being held for four hours in a Palestinian Authority hospital, but the staff couldn’t save her. She was unconscious with severe abdominal injuries, requiring surgeons to perform several lifesaving operations.

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