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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #630 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:29pm

MOTR wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 2:26pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 12:40pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 5:30pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 7:07pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 1:09pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 7:44am:

Perhaps you could tell us what your point is?

I'd imagine he has picked a graph from WUWT that looks like it suits his purpose and posts it thinking that IMS is some independent data source that contradicts the alarmist narrative - when in fact IMS is just a measuring instrument on a a satellite operated by NOAA, the people responsible for all the other graphs in this thread. The idiocy is compounded by the fact that he clearly can't read a graph if he thinks it doesn't show a record low.

And what do you know it's a record high as well at the other end in March...it's called variability.

Yes. Extreme variability. It's called climate change due to anthropogenic global warming.

Crap...it's been hotter in the past and much colder in the past...the world was not designed for our comfort.

Lucky people like you are in the minority

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Yeh, ....but they aren't!
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People get home from work and haven't got time to think about the words that aren't there such as rates of change.

Eventually people can come to a correct understanding but in the face of propganda it is always going to be difficult to convince a majority of a truth vested interests don't want to be known... especially if those results are physically a long way into the future!!

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #631 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:31pm

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:02pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 12:40pm:

Crap...it's been hotter in the past and much colder in the past...the world was not designed for our comfort.

And I suppose you believe that it's gotten hotter/colder by magic, right? Or maybe you have an alternative explanation that explains all of the observed phenomenon relating to the changing climate including the rapid and otherwise inexplicable late 20th century warming?

Nam has to ski-daddle and go and look the youth in the eye so please excuse his absence!!

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #632 - Sep 5^th, 2012 at 1:32am

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:02pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 12:40pm:

Crap...it's been hotter in the past and much colder in the past...the world was not designed for our comfort.

And I suppose you believe that it's gotten hotter/colder by magic, right? Or maybe you have an alternative explanation that explains all of the observed phenomenon relating to the changing climate including the rapid and otherwise inexplicable late 20th century warming?

You would have to believe CO2 is doing the cooling warming to believe in magic. Only CO2 is able to follow temperature change and make the temperature change ahead of itself.

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #633 - Sep 5^th, 2012 at 11:11am

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:02pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 12:40pm:

Crap...it's been hotter in the past and much colder in the past...the world was not designed for our comfort.

And I suppose you believe that it's gotten hotter/colder by magic, right? Or maybe you have an alternative explanation that explains all of the observed phenomenon relating to the changing climate including the rapid and otherwise inexplicable late 20th century warming?

I suppose past changes were magic also.

Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #634 - Sep 5^th, 2012 at 6:37pm

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

I suppose past changes were magic also.

Of course not. We know what has caused past climate changes and we know the role that CO2 played in those changes. Well, when I say 'we' I mean those of us who have taken the time to understand the science, not people like you who reject it without ever bothering to understand the issue.

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Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

Oh yeah? Which data? Citations please.

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #635 - Sep 5^th, 2012 at 9:26pm

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

I suppose past changes were magic also.

Of course not. We know what has caused past climate changes and we know the role that CO2 played in those changes. Well, when I say 'we' I mean those of us who have taken the time to understand the science, not people like you who reject it without ever bothering to understand the issue.

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Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

Oh yeah? Which data? Citations please.

You know jack/s. I reject crap dished up as science comprising almost complete myopic speculation.
Do your own legwork. It won't be hard to find even with your obvious limitations.

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #636 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:48pm

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

I suppose past changes were magic also.

Of course not. We know what has caused past climate changes and we know the role that CO2 played in those changes. Well, when I say 'we' I mean those of us who have taken the time to understand the science, not people like you who reject it without ever bothering to understand the issue.

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Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

Oh yeah? Which data? Citations please.

You know jack/s. I reject crap dished up as science comprising almost complete myopic speculation.
Do your own legwork. It won't be hard to find even with your obvious limitations.

That's just embarrassing. It's offensive to not even provide an argument.

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #637 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:51pm

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

I suppose past changes were magic also.

Of course not. We know what has caused past climate changes and we know the role that CO2 played in those changes. Well, when I say 'we' I mean those of us who have taken the time to understand the science, not people like you who reject it without ever bothering to understand the issue.

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Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

Oh yeah? Which data? Citations please.

You know jack/s. I reject crap dished up as science comprising almost complete myopic speculation.
Do your own legwork. It won't be hard to find even with your obvious limitations.

Ahhh..the time honoured bleat of someone caught making stuff up!

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #638 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:37pm

MOTR wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:48pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

I suppose past changes were magic also.

Of course not. We know what has caused past climate changes and we know the role that CO2 played in those changes. Well, when I say 'we' I mean those of us who have taken the time to understand the science, not people like you who reject it without ever bothering to understand the issue.

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Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

Oh yeah? Which data? Citations please.

You know jack/s. I reject crap dished up as science comprising almost complete myopic speculation.
Do your own legwork. It won't be hard to find even with your obvious limitations.

That's just embarrassing. It's offensive to not even provide an argument.

Can you read?
A ten degrees fluctuation in as little as a couple of decades as opposed to "the unprecedented increase" of the last few...whatever that may actually be. The fact that you cannot answer the argument is the embarrassing part.
You lot constantly put up half-arsed inaccurate and speculative slop and expect ooohhhhs and aarrrrs and for others to spoon feed you what your too lazy or dim-witted to look up.

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #639 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:39pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:51pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

I suppose past changes were magic also.

Of course not. We know what has caused past climate changes and we know the role that CO2 played in those changes. Well, when I say 'we' I mean those of us who have taken the time to understand the science, not people like you who reject it without ever bothering to understand the issue.

Quote:

Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

Oh yeah? Which data? Citations please.

You know jack/s. I reject crap dished up as science comprising almost complete myopic speculation.
Do your own legwork. It won't be hard to find even with your obvious limitations.

Ahhh..the time honoured bleat of someone caught making stuff up!

The only ones here making stuff up is you lot.

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #640 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:47pm

namnugenot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:39pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:51pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

I suppose past changes were magic also.

Of course not. We know what has caused past climate changes and we know the role that CO2 played in those changes. Well, when I say 'we' I mean those of us who have taken the time to understand the science, not people like you who reject it without ever bothering to understand the issue.

Quote:

Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

Oh yeah? Which data? Citations please.

You know jack/s. I reject crap dished up as science comprising almost complete myopic speculation.
Do your own legwork. It won't be hard to find even with your obvious limitations.

Ahhh..the time honoured bleat of someone caught making stuff up!

The only ones here making stuff up is you lot.

You wrote:

Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

We are waiting for the reference.

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #641 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:21pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:47pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:39pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:51pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

I suppose past changes were magic also.

Of course not. We know what has caused past climate changes and we know the role that CO2 played in those changes. Well, when I say 'we' I mean those of us who have taken the time to understand the science, not people like you who reject it without ever bothering to understand the issue.

Quote:

Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

Oh yeah? Which data? Citations please.

You know jack/s. I reject crap dished up as science comprising almost complete myopic speculation.
Do your own legwork. It won't be hard to find even with your obvious limitations.

Ahhh..the time honoured bleat of someone caught making stuff up!

The only ones here making stuff up is you lot.

You wrote:

Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

We are waiting for the reference.

And that's pretty much all you do...like I said not hard to find...you have to earn your treat...you can do it you special little guy!!!

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Reply #642 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:25pm

namnugenot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:47pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:39pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:51pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

I suppose past changes were magic also.

Of course not. We know what has caused past climate changes and we know the role that CO2 played in those changes. Well, when I say 'we' I mean those of us who have taken the time to understand the science, not people like you who reject it without ever bothering to understand the issue.

Quote:

Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

Oh yeah? Which data? Citations please.

You know jack/s. I reject crap dished up as science comprising almost complete myopic speculation.
Do your own legwork. It won't be hard to find even with your obvious limitations.

Ahhh..the time honoured bleat of someone caught making stuff up!

The only ones here making stuff up is you lot.

You wrote:

Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

We are waiting for the reference.

And that's pretty much all you do...like I said not hard to find...you have to earn your treat...you can do it you special little guy!!!

It must be embarrassing being caught red-handed making stuff up like this.

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #643 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 11:41am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:25pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:47pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:39pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:51pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

I suppose past changes were magic also.

Of course not. We know what has caused past climate changes and we know the role that CO2 played in those changes. Well, when I say 'we' I mean those of us who have taken the time to understand the science, not people like you who reject it without ever bothering to understand the issue.

Quote:

Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

Oh yeah? Which data? Citations please.

You know jack/s. I reject crap dished up as science comprising almost complete myopic speculation.
Do your own legwork. It won't be hard to find even with your obvious limitations.

Ahhh..the time honoured bleat of someone caught making stuff up!

The only ones here making stuff up is you lot.

You wrote:

Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

We are waiting for the reference.

And that's pretty much all you do...like I said not hard to find...you have to earn your treat...you can do it you special little guy!!!

It must be embarrassing being caught red-handed making stuff up like this.

Well Uppitty must have found it seeing as he was who the answer was addressed to and he has not been back. Still you lot never seem to step up and say you were wrong like mature and decent adults. So your contention is that rapid climate change has never happened in the past? Or at least never faster than what you say is happening now?

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #644 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 12:23pm

namnugenot wrote on Sep 7^th, 2012 at 11:41am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:25pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:47pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:39pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:51pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

namnugenot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

I suppose past changes were magic also.

Of course not. We know what has caused past climate changes and we know the role that CO2 played in those changes. Well, when I say 'we' I mean those of us who have taken the time to understand the science, not people like you who reject it without ever bothering to understand the issue.

Quote:

Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

Oh yeah? Which data? Citations please.

You know jack/s. I reject crap dished up as science comprising almost complete myopic speculation.
Do your own legwork. It won't be hard to find even with your obvious limitations.

Ahhh..the time honoured bleat of someone caught making stuff up!

The only ones here making stuff up is you lot.

You wrote:

Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

We are waiting for the reference.

And that's pretty much all you do...like I said not hard to find...you have to earn your treat...you can do it you special little guy!!!

It must be embarrassing being caught red-handed making stuff up like this.

Well Uppitty must have found it seeing as he was who the answer was addressed to and he has not been back. Still you lot never seem to step up and say you were wrong like mature and decent adults. So your contention is that rapid climate change has never happened in the past? Or at least never faster than what you say is happening now?

You wrote:

Ice core data supports warming occurring much more rapidly at times than previously thought.
Like the plus 10C + 4C over a couple of decades or less during the Younger Dryas. So even if accurate 1C over a couple of decades is hardly unprecedented. Or are we underestimating the CO2 production of cave dwellers campfires?
It's only inexplicable to you because you can't image a senario where you don't know everything.

We are waiting for the reference.

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