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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #330 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:51am

Yaketty yak, blah, blah, blah, blah, yaketty yak, blah, blah blah...all I hear all day is yaketty yak blah, blah, blah blah....
Got the message Doc?

Uhh care to comment on the landmark case against Gore in which he was found guilty on all counts of scientific bullsh.t?

Like Barnum of Barnum and Bailey's Circus once said, "there's one born every minute". Each minute was yours Doc?

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Reply #331 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:53am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:27am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:24am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:17am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:07am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:03am:

Telling quote at around 3:20 in that video:

testimony in the 1980s that global warming increases both extremes of the earths water cycle. Heat waves and droughts on one hand directly from the warming, but also because a warmer atmosphere holds more water vapour, rainfall will become in more extreme events. There will be stronger storms and greater flooding.

Does that not exactly describe Australia of the last decade ?

No.

Hmmm. Denier logic at work. Maybe a trip to Darlington point is required.

No, can't go anywhere just yet.
I'm up here in tropical North Queensland still waiting for all those increased cyclone activity we are expecting, and the increased severity in those cyclones.

The hot weather has fried your brain. Typical of deniers you switch between localized weather and global climate when and where it suits your argument.
Consistently inconsistent.

No, you suggested I go to Darlington Point remember.
I just replied why I can't right now.

No doubt there are millions of people in North Queensland, Northern Terrritory and Northern West Australia all waiting for the soothsayers prediction of an increase in cyclone activity and all the cat 5 cyclones that will bring death and destruction to come true.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink Reply #332 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 12:38pm Doctor Jolley, does your title of Doctor...stand for Doctor of Wankology with a Ph.d in bullsh.t?
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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #333 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 1:49pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:03am:

Telling quote at around 3:20 in that video:

testimony in the 1980s that global warming increases both extremes of the earths water cycle. Heat waves and droughts on one hand directly from the warming, but also because a warmer atmosphere holds more water vapour, rainfall will become in more extreme events. There will be stronger storms and greater flooding.

Does that not exactly describe Australia of the last decade ?

"last decade" ? Grin

Anything that has happened over the last decade is weather.

Do you know the difference between weather and climate?

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #334 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 2:58pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 1:49pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:03am:

Telling quote at around 3:20 in that video:

testimony in the 1980s that global warming increases both extremes of the earths water cycle. Heat waves and droughts on one hand directly from the warming, but also because a warmer atmosphere holds more water vapour, rainfall will become in more extreme events. There will be stronger storms and greater flooding.

Does that not exactly describe Australia of the last decade ?

"last decade" ? Grin

Anything that has happened over the last decade is weather.

Do you know the difference between weather and climate?

Since weather forecasting cant get next week right, a 10 year trend, I'm afraid, is climate. On the short end, but still climate.

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #335 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 3:15pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 2:58pm:

Since weather forecasting cant get next week right, a 10 year trend, I'm afraid, is climate. On the short end, but still climate.

Nope. It's weather.

Once you hit 30 years you're getting into climate.
Although, in regards to climate change, talking about such short periods of time is an absolute joke.

That's the problem with AGW disciples: they don't know the difference between weather and climate, and they think 200 years is a long time when discussing climate change. Roll Eyes

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #336 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 3:17pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 2:58pm:

Since weather forecasting cant get next week right, a 10 year trend, I'm afraid, is climate. On the short end, but still climate.

Nope. It's weather.

Once you hit 30 years you're getting into climate.
Although, in regards to climate change, talking about such short periods of time is an absolute joke.

That's the problem with AGW disciples: they don't know the difference between weather and climate, and they think 200 years is a long time when discussing climate change. Roll Eyes

Ah no, it is you who does not know what he's talking about regarding Weather v Climate.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink Reply #337 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 3:31pm Herr Docktor Jolley I am still waiting for your reply in regard to Al Gore being smashed by the High Court of Great Britain for Scientific Fraud, as I have outlined earlier in this post in relation to his movie ASn Inconvenient Truth's bullsh.t claims..
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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #338 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 3:32pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 3:17pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 2:58pm:

Since weather forecasting cant get next week right, a 10 year trend, I'm afraid, is climate. On the short end, but still climate.

Nope. It's weather.

Once you hit 30 years you're getting into climate.Although, in regards to climate change, talking about such short periods of time is an absolute joke.

That's the problem with AGW disciples: they don't know the difference between weather and climate, and they think 200 years is a long time when discussing climate change. Roll Eyes

Ah no, it is you who does not know what he's talking about regarding Weather v Climate.

"Climate is defined as statistical weather information that describes the variation of weather at a given place for a specified interval. In popular usage, it represents the synthesis of weather; more formally it is the weather of a locality averaged over some period (usually 30 years) plus statistics of weather extremes."

http://nsidc.org/arcticmet/basics/weather_vs_climate.html

"Scientists keep day-to-day weather statistics for 30 years in order to draw conclusions about local and regional climates. It is only when a location has 30 years of weather statistics that meteorologists can generalize and comment on the climate of a particular area."

http://weather.about.com/od/climatezones/f/weatherclimate.htm

"Climate is often defined as the average weather. It is usually described in terms of the mean and variability of temperature, precipitation and wind over a period ranging from months to millions of years, but the period is typically 30 years. "

http://www.climatechange.gov.au/climate-change/understanding-climate-change/diff...

"Climate refers to the average weather conditions in a place over many years (usually at least 30 years)."

http://epa.gov/climatechange/kids/basics/concepts.html

"The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) requires the calculation of averages for consecutive periods of 30 years,"

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/averages/

"Climate in a narrow sense is usually defined as the "average weather," or more rigorously, as the statistical description in terms of the mean and variability of relevant quantities over a period of time ranging from months to thousands or millions of years. The classical period is 30 years, as defined by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). "

http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/wcp/ccl/faqs.html

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink Reply #339 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 3:49pm red baron wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 12:38pm: Doctor Jolley, does your title of Doctor...stand for Doctor of Wankology with a Ph.d in bullsh.t? Tough guys never pick mike tyson! Get back to sucking off your local sword boy mate!!
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Reply #340 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 3:51pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 2:58pm:

Since weather forecasting cant get next week right, a 10 year trend, I'm afraid, is climate. On the short end, but still climate.

Nope. It's weather.

Once you hit 30 years you're getting into climate.
Although, in regards to climate change, talking about such short periods of time is an absolute joke.

That's the problem with AGW disciples: they don't know the difference between weather and climate, and they think 200 years is a long time when discussing climate change. Roll Eyes

It's about relevance!

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Reply #341 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 3:55pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:03am:

Telling quote at around 3:20 in that video:

testimony in the 1980s that global warming increases both extremes of the earths water cycle. Heat waves and droughts on one hand directly from the warming, but also because a warmer atmosphere holds more water vapour, rainfall will become in more extreme events. There will be stronger storms and greater flooding.

Does that not exactly describe Australia of the last decade ?

A measurable statistic (akin to an ecomic indicator) is snowlines!

That will make for an interesting set of numbers in the years to come!

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Reply #342 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 3:57pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:27am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:24am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:17am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:07am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:03am:

Telling quote at around 3:20 in that video:

testimony in the 1980s that global warming increases both extremes of the earths water cycle. Heat waves and droughts on one hand directly from the warming, but also because a warmer atmosphere holds more water vapour, rainfall will become in more extreme events. There will be stronger storms and greater flooding.

Does that not exactly describe Australia of the last decade ?

No.

Hmmm. Denier logic at work. Maybe a trip to Darlington point is required.

No, can't go anywhere just yet.
I'm up here in tropical North Queensland still waiting for all those increased cyclone activity we are expecting, and the increased severity in those cyclones.

The hot weather has fried your brain. Typical of deniers you switch between localized weather and global climate when and where it suits your argument.
Consistently inconsistent.

CONSISTENCY IS ABBOTTS ACHILLES HEEL, BTW!

NOT DERAILING THE THREAD, JUST SAYING!! Grin

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