Cofgod wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 9:25pm:


I don't believe it does.  The Global Warming Brigade are just being taken on a ride.  Governments and "Global Warming scientists" are secretly laughing behind their backs at how gullible the Global Warming believers are.  They just cannot believe how easily you have been duped into their lies.   [/quote]

It's sad that so many people in Australia think like that.  Australia's chief scientist Professor Ian Chubb made a good comment that all scientists (not just Climate scientists) should spread the message that Global Warming is for real, and it's caused by fossil fuel combustion etc. (cement manufacture, clearing of tropical rainforest ....)  

He's right. There is absolutely no case against it. Exactly how you cut through the political crap and explain it to people, is a different matter. How you deal with the death threats is another.

IPCC & Consensus

One of the biggest barriers to a rational discussion about climatology, is the persistent and sinister use of the ‘consensus’ argument. The idea that there is a consensus between ‘the world’s top scientists’ is used to brow beat politicians, to forestall media criticism of the global warming orthodoxy and to marginalise and ridicule those scientists who dare to speak out against the theory of man made global warming.

Until now, few people have explored the nature of this ‘consensus’. Who are these ‘top scientists’ and who says they all agree? As readers will see, from the few introductory links below, the ‘consensus’ is not all it seems. We urge readers to look at Professor Reiter’s testimony, for example, to the House of Lords

There are indeed many scientists, journalists and others who have built careers and staked their reputations on man made global warming. We should not accept their protestations that ‘the debate is over’, and ‘there is no more room for doubt’.

The implications on public policy of the global warming alarm (for all of us, in the developed world and even more the developing world) are enormous. We are being asked to turn the world upside down, to stifle industrial progress, in order to address this alleged problem. This is too big an issue for us to rubber-stamp the declarations of a semi-political body such as the IPCC.

Orthodox views have been proved wrong time and again. We were assured, you may remember, by a consensus of scientists in Britain, during the BSE ‘Mad Cow Disease’ alarm that, by now, as much as a third of the British population would be dead from eating contaminated hamburgers. The mad cow apocalypse singularly failed to materialise.

Sadly, we have no option, but to be grown up, to examine the question ourselves, and make up our own minds. Is this global warming alarm built on solid evidence?

On the wider political and economic implications of the global warming alarm we would recommend two excellent books:

“Adapt or Die” - ed. Kendra Okonski

“Sustainable Development” – ed. Julian Morris
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And here are some quotes that the Global Warmists might want to take not of:


Apocalypse Then

The continued rapid cooling of the earth since WWII is in accord with the increase in global air pollution associated with industrialization, mechanization, urbanization and exploding population.

-- Reid Bryson, "Global Ecology; Readings towards a rational strategy for Man", (1971)
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The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. Population control is the only answer

-- Paul Ehrlich - The Population Bomb (1968)
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I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000

-- Paul Ehrlich in (1969)
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In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish.

-- Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970)
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Before 1985, mankind will enter a genuine age of scarcity . . in which the accessible supplies of many key minerals will be facing depletion

-- Paul Ehrlich in (1976)
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This [cooling] trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century

-- Peter Gwynne, Newsweek 1976
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There are ominous signs that the earth's weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production - with serious political implications for just about every nation on earth. The drop in food production could begin quite soon... The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologist are hard-pressed to keep up with it.

-- Newsweek, April 28, (1975)
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This cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000.

-- Lowell Ponte "The Cooling", 1976
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If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age.

-- Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling, Earth Day (1970)

BOTTLENECKS ARE COMING FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY!

JUST SAYING!!

Doh........It's the Northern Summer.  Winter is on its way.  The ice will stop shrinking Chicken Licken....

I checked again today, it's still there.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 11:56am:

Don't ya know any scientists mate?