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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink Reply #195 - Jan 4^th, 2012 at 7:32pm
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink Reply #196 - Jan 4^th, 2012 at 7:36pm
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink Reply #197 - Jan 4^th, 2012 at 7:39pm
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Reply #198 - Jan 4^th, 2012 at 9:57pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 4^th, 2012 at 7:43am:

Emma wrote on Dec 31^st, 2011 at 7:48pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Dec 31^st, 2011 at 10:39am:

Emma wrote on Dec 31^st, 2011 at 12:30am:

S'truth!

!!!!!!!!!

See Roll Eyes

.. humans have such a powerful impact on the 'natural world' ... our actions are SO extreme with regard to 'balance' that OUR EARTH is forced to drastic measures. Our overall behaviour is psychotic..unfit.! Our ability and technology outstrip our ethics.!!

I simply suspect that if WE don't lift our game, BIG TIME, our mother , the Earth, will be forced to take measures... BIG TIME.!! Recently, we have been shown just a small sample of her power.... but have we SEEN it? Some have. Some have not.!!

Mmmmmmmm, I'm sure I've seen this epic Hollywood blockbuster movie already.

Yeah a few times no doubt. But .here a couple of real-life examples, historically speaking.

Look at - Easter Island... whose people destroyed their own habitat to make bigger and better statues to >>???

Look at - the disappearance of the Anasazi - a rich culture all gone - no-one left, ... except perhaps a few survivors who managed to find a home somewhere else, and became part of their saviours culture. And thats still debatable.

Whos losses can be explained by war eh.
Not man made 'climate change' and deadly Co2.

Au contraire! Roll Eyes

P'haps 'religious war' on Easter Island added the last straw, who can say,? Not you.! ,
WAR does not EXPLAIN IT! War is the symptom ..not the disease.

I intended the examples to show what happens when humans forget they have to live 'within' their environment...with no 'options'.. Just a micro of the macro of the Earth TODAY.
We , you and me, are lucky to live NOW.
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chicken_lipsforme Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7090 Townsville NQ Gender:	Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink Reply #199 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 7:42am I just checked. It's still there.
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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink Reply #200 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 8:07am MOTR wrote on Jan 4^th, 2012 at 7:39pm: http://www.skepticalscience.com/images/Arctic_sea_ice_anomaly.gif Motr, there is no point presenting facts to these people. They deny global warming purely for political point scoring. Nothing to do with science.
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Reply #201 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 8:16am

Deniers, just tick which box you want to use for you latest mis-information session....

Climate Myth vs What the Science Says
1 "Climate's changed before" ..........Climate reacts to whatever forces it to change at the time; humans are now the dominant forcing.
2 "It's the sun" .........In the last 35 years of global warming, sun and climate have been going in opposite directions
3 "It's not bad" ..........Negative impacts of global warming on agriculture, health & environment far outweigh any positives.
4 "There is no consensus" ........97% of climate experts agree humans are causing global warming.
5 "It's cooling" .........The last decade 2000-2009 was the hottest on record.
6 "Models are unreliable" ........Models successfully reproduce temperatures since 1900 globally, by land, in the air and the ocean.
7 "Temp record is unreliable" .........The warming trend is the same in rural and urban areas, measured by thermometers and satellites.
8 "Animals and plants can adapt" ............Global warming will cause mass extinctions of species that cannot adapt on short time scales.
9 "It hasn't warmed since 1998" ...........For global records, 2010 is the hottest year on record, tied with 2005.
10 "Antarctica is gaining ice" ...........Satellites measure Antarctica losing land ice at an accelerating rate.
11 "Ice age predicted in the 70s" ..........The vast majority of climate papers in the 1970s predicted warming.

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Reply #202 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:44pm

I like myths.
Give us some more climate change myths Dr Jolly, as you seem to set store by such things.
One of my all time favourite myths was the one peddled by the UN in 2008 about the 50,000 climate change refugees due to arrive in Australia by 2010, from sinking Pacific islands.
That set the crash helmet brigade off then I remember.
I believe we are still waiting for even just one island to sink? Roll Eyes

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Reply #203 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:48pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:44pm:

I like myths.
Give us some more climate change myths Dr Jolly, as you seem to set store by such things.
One of my all time favourite myths was the one peddled by the UN in 2008 about the 50,000 climate change refugees due to arrive in Australia by 2010, from sinking Pacific islands.
That set the crash helmet brigade off then I remember.
I believe we are still waiting for even just one island to sink? Roll Eyes

Now you are just making stuff up.

Grin

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Reply #204 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:25pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:48pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:44pm:

I like myths.
Give us some more climate change myths Dr Jolly, as you seem to set store by such things.
One of my all time favourite myths was the one peddled by the UN in 2008 about the 50,000 climate change refugees due to arrive in Australia by 2010, from sinking Pacific islands.
That set the crash helmet brigade off then I remember.
I believe we are still waiting for even just one island to sink? Roll Eyes

Now you are just making stuff up.

Grin

Just like you did with your earlier list, you mean???
Grin

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Reply #205 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:46pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:25pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:48pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:44pm:

I like myths.
Give us some more climate change myths Dr Jolly, as you seem to set store by such things.
One of my all time favourite myths was the one peddled by the UN in 2008 about the 50,000 climate change refugees due to arrive in Australia by 2010, from sinking Pacific islands.
That set the crash helmet brigade off then I remember.
I believe we are still waiting for even just one island to sink? Roll Eyes

Now you are just making stuff up.

Grin

Just like you did with your earlier list, you mean???

No, that list is from that skeptic site that muso often quotes. The skeptic's skeptic.

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Reply #206 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 9:58pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:46pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:25pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:48pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:44pm:

I like myths.
Give us some more climate change myths Dr Jolly, as you seem to set store by such things.
One of my all time favourite myths was the one peddled by the UN in 2008 about the 50,000 climate change refugees due to arrive in Australia by 2010, from sinking Pacific islands.
That set the crash helmet brigade off then I remember.
I believe we are still waiting for even just one island to sink? Roll Eyes

Now you are just making stuff up.

Grin

Just like you did with your earlier list, you mean???

No, that list is from that skeptic site that muso often quotes. The skeptic's skeptic.

Which doesn't mean it's not made up.....

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #207 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 2:03am

so gizvoid, you don't believe ?? or is it understand??? the graph supplied by MOTR?

And Lips- suck is at it again too.

What IS your problem?? Do you think YOU represent all humans, and you don't think you've done anything wrong??

Talk about being personally paranoid about global issues. Roll Eyes

ITS OK - we aren't blaming little ol' you.

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Reply #208 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 7:19am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:48pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:44pm:

I like myths.
Give us some more climate change myths Dr Jolly, as you seem to set store by such things.
One of my all time favourite myths was the one peddled by the UN in 2008 about the 50,000 climate change refugees due to arrive in Australia by 2010, from sinking Pacific islands.
That set the crash helmet brigade off then I remember.
I believe we are still waiting for even just one island to sink? Roll Eyes

Now you are just making stuff up.

Grin

No I'm not actually.

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Reply #209 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 7:21am

Emma wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 2:03am:

so gizvoid, you don't believe ?? or is it understand??? the graph supplied by MOTR?

And Lips- suck is at it again too.

What IS your problem?? Do you think YOU represent all humans, and you don't think you've done anything wrong??

Talk about being personally paranoid about global issues. Roll Eyes

ITS OK - we aren't blaming little ol' you.

Going by your post, I'm not the one with a problem.

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