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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink Reply #180 - Dec 30^th, 2011 at 6:23pm Sorry, lets get back on topic and discuss the shrinking Arctic that's still there. At an inch a year, this is a thread my unborn great great great great great great grandchildren could contribute to eh if Ozpolitics lasts that long? Hey void... had no idea you were such an unrealistic optimist. Dream on Lips.
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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #181 - Dec 30^th, 2011 at 7:00pm

Emma wrote on Dec 30^th, 2011 at 6:23pm:

Sorry, lets get back on topic and discuss the shrinking Arctic that's still there.
At an inch a year, this is a thread my unborn great great great great great great grandchildren could contribute to eh if Ozpolitics lasts that long?
Hey void... Wink

had no idea you were such an unrealistic optimist. Dream on Lips. Cool

In truth..ONLY if the Environmentalists are correct....
IF they aren't correct, then the Arctic Ice will recover....which is the entire point of the argument...

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink Reply #182 - Dec 30^th, 2011 at 7:18pm Given the cyclical nature of the Universe, there is no real doubt that the 'Ice' will return. Just when - is the question. Likely long after our generation has gone to 'mud'.
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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #183 - Dec 30^th, 2011 at 9:59pm

Emma wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 8:18pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 9:18am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 8:56am:

I just got back.
Guess what?
The Arctic is still there.

Only just.

Yes - back on topic- Thanks Doctor Jolly.......................

AND-as for twerps like Deathray and Gizmoid and Lipstosuk... shame on you for wasting your efforts on this topic. To be sure someone somewhere might even appreciate what y'all seem to think so witty, rivetting.. whatever you imagine? .....
... yaw disrespect is wasteful and pathetic... ha ha ha

-just 'cos you don't want to accept an obvious fact, doesn't give you and ur ilk a right to disrupt a topic. I doubt anyone else but your own idiot selves will continue this if I shut up now.
But - if anyone does want to continue in spite of these ???hmm has to be something else to 'call' them..??

(How about ....'voids'. !!!!
Just thought of that. Grin

I LIKE IT.

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yeah so if you want to go on with this topic DO IT.

Trolls rule the world mate: what do else do you honestly think motivates societies to go to war!!??!

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Get a grip,.. you can't roll over and let people just say what they want without a little backpressure!

You can avoid them, for sure,... but can you really!???!

Like i said: they're a part of life, like weeds growing through cracks in the pavement!

Call me a troll if you want... just words dood and you might realise you don't know all the answers to all the questions!

STRIVE TOWARDS THE LIGHT SIDE AND THE POWER OF THE FLOW KEEPS THEM IN HARMONY!

CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS!! Wink

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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Reply #184 - Dec 30^th, 2011 at 10:02pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Dec 30^th, 2011 at 8:20am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:33pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 8:56am:

I just got back.
Guess what?
The Arctic is still there.

LOL, chickenlips is in on the trying-to-chew-up-the-whole-of-the-internets-address-space plan!!!

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Don't worry Death, your reputation is still intact.

YOU DON'T LIKE ME MUCH DO YA!!

WAIT, HOW CAN PROPAGANDA DISLIKE SOMEONE??

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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Reply #185 - Dec 30^th, 2011 at 10:55pm

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Trolls rule the world mate: what do else do you honestly think motivates societies to go to war!!??!

Shocked

Get a grip,.. you can't roll over and let people just say what they want without a little backpressure!

You can avoid them, for sure,... but can you really!???!

Like i said: they're a part of life, like weeds growing through cracks in the pavement!

Call me a troll if you want... just words dood and you might realise you don't know all the answers to all the questions!

STRIVE TOWARDS THE LIGHT SIDE AND THE POWER OF THE FLOW KEEPS THEM IN HARMONY!

CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS!! Wink

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ROLL OVER?? Hmmmph!!

You think I roll over?? Thats not how I see it. (assuming you are talking to me)I'll give a bit of slack..., if it seems good, but...I
Don't think I call people trolls.. Huh

. trolls aren't people.

People may be voids -- that is - empty space, wasted space. I suspect we (people) often work at cross-purposes, ... because we don't realise...we are all on the same side.!!! Cheesy

IE? Pro-survival......Balance.

Yeah

- Balance = on-going endless interruptions to stasis... continuous challenge to certainty,.... positive and negative actions reflecting positive and negative outcomes - no null void.
Strewth - it isn't even NY Eve !!

Cheers
heres bloody well hoping 2012 is better than 2011 was. Undecided

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Reply #186 - Dec 31^st, 2011 at 12:30am

S'truth!

!!!!!!!!!

See Roll Eyes

.. humans have such a powerful impact on the 'natural world' ... our actions are SO extreme with regard to 'balance' that OUR EARTH is forced to drastic measures. Our overall behaviour is psychotic..unfit.! Our ability and technology outstrip our ethics.!!

I simply suspect that if WE don't lift our game, BIG TIME, our mother , the Earth, will be forced to take measures... BIG TIME.!! Recently, we have been shown just a small sample of her power.... but have we SEEN it? Some have. Some have not.!!

But in the whole scheme of things, our presence is but a flicker of time....soon forgotten,....... so who gaf.? .... Just a 'Mote in God's Eye'.

No plagiarism here, thats a title of a book, ...just can't remember if it was an old Larry Niven collaboration, or an old Piers Anthony, before his Xanth days. Huh

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Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink
Reply #187 - Dec 31^st, 2011 at 9:13am

Emma wrote on Dec 31^st, 2011 at 12:30am:

S'truth!

!!!!!!!!!

See Roll Eyes

.. humans have such a powerful impact on the 'natural world' ... our actions are SO extreme with regard to 'balance' that OUR EARTH is forced to drastic measures. Our overall behaviour is psychotic..unfit.! Our ability and technology outstrip our ethics.!!

I simply suspect that if WE don't lift our game, BIG TIME, our mother , the Earth, will be forced to take measures... BIG TIME.!! Recently, we have been shown just a small sample of her power.... but have we SEEN it? Some have. Some have not.!!

But in the whole scheme of things, our presence is but a flicker of time....soon forgotten,....... so who gaf.? .... Just a 'Mote in God's Eye'.

No plagiarism here, thats a title of a book, ...just can't remember if it was an old Larry Niven collaboration, or an old Piers Anthony, before his Xanth days. Huh

Cheeeeers

Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle...

Although it's very interesting that you chose 'A Mote in God's Eye'....since a mote is a tiny. insiginificant speck...Which is really a good parallel to human impact on the planet...

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #188 - Dec 31^st, 2011 at 10:39am

Emma wrote on Dec 31^st, 2011 at 12:30am:

S'truth!

!!!!!!!!!

See Roll Eyes

.. humans have such a powerful impact on the 'natural world' ... our actions are SO extreme with regard to 'balance' that OUR EARTH is forced to drastic measures. Our overall behaviour is psychotic..unfit.! Our ability and technology outstrip our ethics.!!

I simply suspect that if WE don't lift our game, BIG TIME, our mother , the Earth, will be forced to take measures... BIG TIME.!! Recently, we have been shown just a small sample of her power.... but have we SEEN it? Some have. Some have not.!!

Mmmmmmmm, I'm sure I've seen this epic Hollywood blockbuster movie already.

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Reply #189 - Dec 31^st, 2011 at 7:37pm

Cant seem to reply to Gizmoid - the page will not come up - I get a net fail message everytime. And had a great wee reply too.

Have to de-re-construct.!!

So thanks for that - Niven and Pournelle.

As you point out a mote is very tiny . But get a small gritty bit in your eye, and you soon realise it affects most of the rest of your being as well.!! Not so bad a comparison after all yeah??
Jeez cant remember what else- just my point is that long after we are gone Mother will remain, regardless of how insane we are, fouling our own beds, we are only really hurting ourselves, and the life that shares this earth with us NOW. Life will continue,, just not our era's life.
Sad, stupid, insane,suicidal,,, says it all. Sad

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Reply #190 - Dec 31^st, 2011 at 7:48pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Dec 31^st, 2011 at 10:39am:

Emma wrote on Dec 31^st, 2011 at 12:30am:

S'truth!

!!!!!!!!!

See Roll Eyes

.. humans have such a powerful impact on the 'natural world' ... our actions are SO extreme with regard to 'balance' that OUR EARTH is forced to drastic measures. Our overall behaviour is psychotic..unfit.! Our ability and technology outstrip our ethics.!!

I simply suspect that if WE don't lift our game, BIG TIME, our mother , the Earth, will be forced to take measures... BIG TIME.!! Recently, we have been shown just a small sample of her power.... but have we SEEN it? Some have. Some have not.!!

Mmmmmmmm, I'm sure I've seen this epic Hollywood blockbuster movie already.

Yeah a few times no doubt. But .here a couple of real-life examples, historically speaking.

Look at - Easter Island... whose people destroyed their own habitat to make bigger and better statues to >>???

Look at - the disappearance of the Anasazi - a rich culture all gone - no-one left, ... except perhaps a few survivors who managed to find a home somewhere else, and became part of their saviours culture. And thats still debatable.

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Reply #191 - Jan 4^th, 2012 at 7:43am

Emma wrote on Dec 31^st, 2011 at 7:48pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Dec 31^st, 2011 at 10:39am:

Emma wrote on Dec 31^st, 2011 at 12:30am:

S'truth!

!!!!!!!!!

See Roll Eyes

.. humans have such a powerful impact on the 'natural world' ... our actions are SO extreme with regard to 'balance' that OUR EARTH is forced to drastic measures. Our overall behaviour is psychotic..unfit.! Our ability and technology outstrip our ethics.!!

I simply suspect that if WE don't lift our game, BIG TIME, our mother , the Earth, will be forced to take measures... BIG TIME.!! Recently, we have been shown just a small sample of her power.... but have we SEEN it? Some have. Some have not.!!

Mmmmmmmm, I'm sure I've seen this epic Hollywood blockbuster movie already.

Yeah a few times no doubt. But .here a couple of real-life examples, historically speaking.

Look at - Easter Island... whose people destroyed their own habitat to make bigger and better statues to >>???

Look at - the disappearance of the Anasazi - a rich culture all gone - no-one left, ... except perhaps a few survivors who managed to find a home somewhere else, and became part of their saviours culture. And thats still debatable.

Whos losses can be explained by war eh.
Not man made 'climate change' and deadly Co2.

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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: Arctic Ice continues to shrink Reply #192 - Jan 4^th, 2012 at 8:17am Emma wrote on Dec 30^th, 2011 at 7:18pm: Given the cyclical nature of the Universe, there is no real doubt that the 'Ice' will return. Just when - is the question. Likely long after our generation has gone to 'mud'. Tell that to the martians. They are still waiting for the climate change cycle to be over.
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