Life_goes_on wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 12:39pm:



About 192 countries signed and ratifed Kyoto

The countries are split into 2 groups

I'll call the first group as "Group A" comprise of about 39 countries. They are listed on a document called Annex 1

Annex 1 countries have penalties

So are you talking about the 39 countries on the Annex 1 list or the 152 countries who are not on the list?

and your perception is clouded by your ignorance

you are not humble enough to admit it

and my arrogance facade have pushed you down the path where humility is very difficult for you

Life_goes_on wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 12:53pm:

It is amusing to watch the hysterical FD claim the coalition reject economics. this is the party that instituted economic reforms and unlike rudd/gillard, thos ereforms actually WORKED well. this is the party that lead australia thru is most prosperous period EVER. to presume that in just 4 years this same party - still composed of almost the same people - has suddenly rejected economics while watchign the labor party screw up economics so badly.

your bias is showing, FD. unfortunately, your intelligence and credibility are not.

Maqqa wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 5:05pm:


when it suits him. this is an example of where it DOESNT suit him. His arguments are more or less crap. and he only looks good compared to the infantile crowd of astro, azuline skippy and others. Hardly a compliment.

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 6:01pm:



Actually nice try

Up until I referenced the UNFCCC website - you thought I was going to reference a newspaper article

Just because you can't find it does not mean its not there

I have already given you the reference - now your turn

Its not a signal to continue to push for more and more when you can't be bothered to do the research yourself

I give something - you give something. Unless of course you have nothing to give

So go back to my original post and admit the damage Rudd has done through his ratification. If you want to know why Direct Action plan is better then admit you don't understand then I'll explain it.

Perhaps then we can start analyzing the UNFCCC website and its content

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 4:49pm:




You keep going on about "credibility" LW and yet , like mindless partisan posters like armchair , cods , chickenlips etc , you keep harping on about economic incompetence of the Labor government.


This is just NOT borne out by the FACTS.



Now I know that you conservatives have different ...




...well I was about to say "morals" but that doesnt seem the right word to describe what you believe in.

How about different "priorities " or a different "perspective".


Australias economy is the envy of the western world.

All the economic indicators are good.

We had one of the first governments to use a stimulus package to save us from recession and by ALL indicators it seems to have worked.


The manufacturing sector is growing , jobs have been created , inflation held in check  and we survived the GFC better than any other economy.


To continue to bleat about labors "economic mismanagement" is denialism at it's worst (there's that word again "denialism" . Why is it that you conservatives deny everything despite facts and evidence?)



Credibility?    Dont make me laugh.




The Rudd/gillard governements economic management has been superb.

And before you start on how howard left rudd with a surplus to play with , YES , each government stands on the shoulders of the previous one but if you are going to be honest , howard inherited a FANTASTIC economy from the far sighted and brave reforms of the Hawke/Keating governments , emphasizing once again that not ALL Labor governments are economically incompetent.