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Reply #75 - Sep 4th, 2011 at 7:21pm
 
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Reply #76 - Sep 4th, 2011 at 7:23pm
 
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Of course I will keep repeating myself, because freediver you have repeated and failed to logically refute it, WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY ???
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Reply #77 - Sep 4th, 2011 at 7:27pm
 


stryder wrote on Sep 4th, 2011 at 7:23pm:
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Do you have any argument besides repeating yourself?
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Of course I will keep repeating myself, because freediver you have repeated and failed to logically refute it, WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY ???





So, Stryder, since you seem so convinced - perhaps you recall what some of the economics headlines were in the timeframe you mentioned earlier!?




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Reply #78 - Sep 4th, 2011 at 7:30pm
 
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As I keep telling you, it was middle of the road economics and was repeatedly on the front page.

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What the hell are you saying ??


You want to believe in the economists future projections in CARBON POLICY , AM I WRONG FREEDIVER


And yet these economists couldnt see the global finanical crisis coming the way it did, OTHEWISE FREEDIVER WOULD HAVE SPLATTERED HIS POSTS WITH EVIDENCE THAT THE MAJORITY OF ECONOMISTS SAW THE GFC COMING IN LATE 2008, but they didnt
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Re: "Direct Action" vs "Carbon Tax
Reply #79 - Sep 4th, 2011 at 8:44pm
 
stryder wrote on Sep 4th, 2011 at 7:23pm:
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Of course I will keep repeating myself, because freediver you have repeated and failed to logically refute it, WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY ???


Well you could try refuting my claim that the reserve bank actions for example were a warning. Or you could try denying that it made the front page over and over again. Or could try to refute my claim that you simply did not understand these warnings. You could try making any of these arguments.

Or you could just respond to every point people make by repeating your silly claim that economists did not see it coming.
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Reply #80 - Sep 5th, 2011 at 9:44am
 

Yo Stryder!

I've done your work for you - I googled on "global recession", then narrowed the timeframe to 1/1/2004 through 1/7/2007 and came up with a whopping 7,690,000 results!

Happy reading: -

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=global+recession (you will need to narrow the timeframe yourself - cos this link will get you some 28,200,000 results)

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Reply #81 - Sep 5th, 2011 at 10:40pm
 
Stryder there are plenty of points you could respond that that would move the debate forward rather than just repeating yourself.

I am also interested in what advice we should seek on economic issues if we are to ignore economists? Perhaps you would prefer a tarot card reader? Do you think it looks good for the coalition if you have to reject the field of economics in order to promote their policies?
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Reply #82 - Sep 6th, 2011 at 12:53am
 
Unless it can be shown how this tax will address economic alienation and human inequality then it is a complete waste of time.  If this is a tax to subsidize failed capitalism and protectionism for third world neocolonialism, then lets face reality and start tackling the real problems.
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Reply #83 - Sep 6th, 2011 at 1:19am
 

direct action = helping the environment

carbon tax = a new tax
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Reply #84 - Sep 6th, 2011 at 2:16pm
 
Abbotts Direct action does nothing and I can see clearly why the Coalition (Remembing Barnabyj oyce view on mining the artic)  want NO action on climate change  . Get ready, war chest is in need of filling ;


Great news. Global warming will create a brand new polar oil rush in the Arctic.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/unlocked-by-melting-icecaps-the-great-p...
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Reply #85 - Sep 6th, 2011 at 2:19pm
 
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Abbotts Direct action does nothing and I can see clearly why the Coalition (Remembing Barnabyj oyce view on mining the artic)  want NO action on climate change  . Get ready, war chest is in need of filling ;


Great news. Global warming will create a brand new polar oil rush in the Arctic.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/unlocked-by-melting-icecaps-the-great-p...


BLOODY HELL WHO RATTLED THE CANS   Angry
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Reply #86 - Sep 6th, 2011 at 2:37pm
 
corporate_whitey wrote on Sep 6th, 2011 at 12:53am:
Unless it can be shown how this tax will address economic alienation and human inequality then it is a complete waste of time.  If this is a tax to subsidize failed capitalism and protectionism for third world neocolonialism, then lets face reality and start tackling the real problems.


does that mean anything ?
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Reply #87 - Sep 7th, 2011 at 1:27pm
 
Another POSITIVE for Labors Price on carbon and a negative to Liberals Directionless action plan;

European Commission president gives carbon plan the thumbs up

Paul Kelly
From:The Australian
September 07, 201112:00AM


EUROPEAN Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso warned yesterday it was "very important" for Europe that Australia implement its planned carbon pricing policy.

In an interview with The Australian, Mr Barroso said the European experience showed that once Australia acted its gains would be both economic and environmental.

Mr Barroso's message was Australia's new and growing importance to Europe, given the Gillard government's carbon policy. He pushed the case for action while saying he had no wish to interfere in Australia's domestic politics.

On every point he affirmed Labor's stand and rejected that of the Coalition.




"There is a business case for fighting climate change," Mr Barroso said. "In Europe we basically have a cross-party consensus from the German Greens to the British Conservatives, to the Christian Democrats, the socialists and the liberals -- all of them support an ambitious agenda in terms of reduction of emissions.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/carbon-plan/european-commission...
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Reply #88 - Sep 8th, 2011 at 9:31am
 
So What is China doing again.

Today's Age newspaper reports that China will use Australia's planned emissions trading scheme as a model for its pilot schemes to be introduced in 2013. Have a read.

Beijing praises emissions plan
www.theage.com.au
Beijing praises emissions plan


I'm thinking -  Will not  be long now and Abbott will really look like an Idiot  and those that support  him , more so.   Kiss
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Re: "Direct Action" vs "Carbon Tax"
Reply #89 - Sep 8th, 2011 at 9:43am
 
Every country will be adopting a carbon tax or something simliar, its just a matter of who wants to be at the cutting edge of new ideas and technology and who wants to be left behind throwing money at the big polluters and planting a few trees.
Polluters should always pay to pollute not be rewarded with taxpayer handouts
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