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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: did dinosaurs and humans co-exist? Losing the plot Reply #15 - Aug 15^th, 2011 at 4:25pm Quote: That yahoo answers lists the creationist answer as the best is a worry. In fact googling [Dinosaur + man] in various combos gives very little in the way of a scientific view. Yes, the Internet has certainly delivered us into the age of misinformation.
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Reply #16 - Aug 15^th, 2011 at 4:29pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 4:25pm:

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That yahoo answers lists the creationist answer as the best is a worry. In fact googling [Dinosaur + man] in various combos gives very little in the way of a scientific view.

Yes, the Internet has certainly delivered us into the age of misinformation.

I blame TV. Just LOOK at this blatant misinformation deliverd under the guise of entertainment.

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Reply #17 - Aug 15^th, 2011 at 4:35pm

... wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 4:29pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 4:25pm:

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That yahoo answers lists the creationist answer as the best is a worry. In fact googling [Dinosaur + man] in various combos gives very little in the way of a scientific view.

Yes, the Internet has certainly delivered us into the age of misinformation.

I blame TV. Just LOOK at this blatant misinformation deliverd under the guise of entertainment.

http://xxxicana.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/flintstones.gif

TV must take some of the blame for the nonsense that's believed these days, but there's no better instrument for the propagation of nonsense than the internet.

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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: did dinosaurs and humans co-exist? Losing the plot Reply #18 - Aug 15^th, 2011 at 5:08pm Quote: ANALYSE EVIDENCE...Accredited laboratory uses an approved radiometric dating method to determine the age of the submitted rocks. No not really http://www.noanswersingenesis.org.au/mt_st_helens_dacite_kh.htm
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: did dinosaurs and humans co-exist? Losing the plot Reply #19 - Aug 15^th, 2011 at 5:20pm Quote: did dinosaurs and humans co-exist? No. And luckily so, as there would've been many wars between the species without the great man GW Bush to bring about a co-existence like we have today with our friends the fish.
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Reply #20 - Aug 15^th, 2011 at 5:38pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 2:32pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 12:18pm:

how come Noah didn't make enough room on his boat for the dinosaurs ? LOL

With the exception of 'Young Earth Creationists'...I've met lots of Christians who accept both evolution AND fossil evidence of dinosaurs...

The YEC's are a relatively small percentage of Christians.....and even some other Christians think they're pretty dumb...

I wonder how those Christians who are not YEC reconcile the content of Bible with evolution and the scientifically accepted age of the Earth?

It's quite clear that the Bible dates the earth at about 5,000 years. So if a Christian is not a young earth creationist, then they must have decided that parts of the Bible are false. So why believe the rest of it? How do you decide which parts are correct, and which are incorrect?

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Reply #21 - Aug 15^th, 2011 at 5:46pm

NBNMyths wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 5:38pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 2:32pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 12:18pm:

how come Noah didn't make enough room on his boat for the dinosaurs ? LOL

With the exception of 'Young Earth Creationists'...I've met lots of Christians who accept both evolution AND fossil evidence of dinosaurs...

The YEC's are a relatively small percentage of Christians.....and even some other Christians think they're pretty dumb...

I wonder how those Christians who are not YEC reconcile the content of Bible with evolution and the scientifically accepted age of the Earth?

It's quite clear that the Bible dates the earth at about 5,000 years. So if a Christian is not a young earth creationist, then they must have decided that parts of the Bible are false. So why believe the rest of it? How do you decide which parts are correct, and which are incorrect?

You believe the parts you like, and disbelieve the parts that you dislike.....they seem to find it easy.

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #22 - Aug 15^th, 2011 at 5:55pm

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You believe the parts you like, and disbelieve the parts that you dislike.....they seem to find it easy.

I think that's the way with a lot of religions, certainly amongst christians, jews and muslims - only a few are rabidly devout and the rest pick and choose which bits of their holy book they choose to follow.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51904 At my desk.	Re: did dinosaurs and humans co-exist? Losing the plot Reply #23 - Aug 15^th, 2011 at 6:06pm Yes they most certainly did. I saw Steve Irwin trying to feed his child to one on TV.
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Reply #24 - Aug 15^th, 2011 at 6:20pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 5:55pm:

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You believe the parts you like, and disbelieve the parts that you dislike.....they seem to find it easy.

I think that's the way with a lot of religions, certainly amongst christians, jews and muslims - only a few are rabidly devout and the rest pick and choose which bits of their holy book they choose to follow.

Pius XII’s 1950 encyclical Humani Generis 36–37 says thatCatholics are at liberty to believe creation took a few days or a much longer period, according to how they see the evidence. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states, "Many scientific studies... have splendidly enriched our knowledge of the age and dimensions of the cosmos, the development of life forms, and the appearance of man. These studies invite us to even greater admiration for the greatness of the Creator" (CCC 283).

And is a day a day? Psalm 90:4 says: "A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night".

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Reply #25 - Aug 15^th, 2011 at 6:48pm

Frances wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 6:20pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 5:55pm:

[quote]You believe the parts you like, and disbelieve the parts that you dislike.....they seem to find it easy.

I think that's the way with a lot of religions, certainly amongst christians, jews and muslims - only a few are rabidly devout and the rest pick and choose which bits of their holy book they choose to follow.

Pius XII’s 1950 encyclical Humani Generis 36–37 says thatCatholics are at liberty to believe creation took a few days or a much longer period, according to how they see the evidence. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states, "Many scientific studies... have splendidly enriched our knowledge of the age and dimensions of the cosmos, the development of life forms, and the appearance of man. These studies invite us to even greater admiration for the greatness of the Creator" (CCC 283).

And is a day a day? Psalm 90:4 says: "A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night".[/quote]

Ahhh that explains it Grin

http://askville.amazon.com/year-Catholic-church-apologize-putting-Galileo-trial/...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1055597/Church-makes--8216-ludicrous-821...

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Reply #26 - Aug 15^th, 2011 at 7:55pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 4:25pm:

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That yahoo answers lists the creationist answer as the best is a worry. In fact googling [Dinosaur + man] in various combos gives very little in the way of a scientific view.

Yes, the Internet has certainly delivered us into the age of misinformation.

Big money is paid to Google to have priority given in search results. It means that the scientific view doesn't get much of a look in because it can't pay for it.

(hmm reminds me of another science v ideology controversy going around at the moment)

The highest results on a Google search arn't necessarily the most accurate.

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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: did dinosaurs and humans co-exist? Losing the plot Reply #27 - Aug 15^th, 2011 at 8:21pm Quote: Big money is paid to Google to have priority given in search results Sure, you can pay to have your site be a top search result, but it's not Google you pay. Otherwise the top search results are based upon total hits on those sites.
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Reply #28 - Aug 15^th, 2011 at 8:23pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 7:55pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 4:25pm:

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That yahoo answers lists the creationist answer as the best is a worry. In fact googling [Dinosaur + man] in various combos gives very little in the way of a scientific view.

Yes, the Internet has certainly delivered us into the age of misinformation.

Big money is paid to Google to have priority given in search results. It means that the scientific view doesn't get much of a look in because it can't pay for it.

(hmm reminds me of another science v ideology controversy going around at the moment)

The highest results on a Google search arn't necessarily the most accurate.

Many articles on this site get the top spot in google. I pay no-one for this, but rely instead on the factual accuracy and general interest in the articles.

Google 'allow whaling'.

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Reply #29 - Aug 16^th, 2011 at 11:03am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 5:46pm:

NBNMyths wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 5:38pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 2:32pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 12:18pm:

how come Noah didn't make enough room on his boat for the dinosaurs ? LOL

With the exception of 'Young Earth Creationists'...I've met lots of Christians who accept both evolution AND fossil evidence of dinosaurs...

The YEC's are a relatively small percentage of Christians.....and even some other Christians think they're pretty dumb...

I wonder how those Christians who are not YEC reconcile the content of Bible with evolution and the scientifically accepted age of the Earth?

It's quite clear that the Bible dates the earth at about 5,000 years. So if a Christian is not a young earth creationist, then they must have decided that parts of the Bible are false. So why believe the rest of it? How do you decide which parts are correct, and which are incorrect?

You believe the parts you like, and disbelieve the parts that you dislike.....they seem to find it easy.

Islam does not allow you to pick and choose which parts to believe in,it is a package deal if you want those 72 white houris with that everlasting erection in Paradise.

Was it pope leo who told the christians not to take the bible seriously?

Quran 2:85
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So do you believe in part of the scripture and disbelieve in part?
Then what is the recompense for those who do that among you except disgrace in worldly life;and on the day of resurrection they will be sent back to the severest of punishment.
And Allah is not unaware of what you do

http://quran.com/2/85
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