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Reply #150 - Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:52pm

Are you still believe the conquering legally?

Slaughter the people and plunder their land? You are still proud of it?

Do you believe if anyone have the power, they have rights to do it again to Australia, to you?

What you are thinking is same to Talibans.

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Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:43pm:

Australia start from aboriginal culture. Your forefather were immigrants (if not invaders).

The land that would come to be known as Australia "start from aboriginal culture". But once the aborigines were conquered and Australia was born, that aboriginal culture had no relevance. It was reaplced by the culture of the nation builders - Europeans.

Is it a language barrier that prevents you from understanding this?

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Re: Call to scrap citizenship test - 'too hard'
Reply #151 - Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:54pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

Are you still believe the conquering legally?

Slaughter the people and plunder their land? You are still proud of it?

Do you believe if anyone have the power, they can do it again to Australia?

What you are thinking is same to Talibans.

... wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:49pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:43pm:

Australia start from aboriginal culture. Your forefather were immigrants (if not invaders).

The land that would come to be known as Australia "start from aboriginal culture". But once the aborigines were conquered and Australia was born, that aboriginal culture had no relevance. It was reaplced by the culture of the nation builders - Europeans.

Is it a language barrier that prevents you from understanding this?

It happened. Nothing can change that. And yes, it will happen again - only this time, we're inviting the conquerors.

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In the fullness of time...

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Quantum

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Re: Call to scrap citizenship test - 'too hard'
Reply #152 - Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:55pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

I'm sorry. living in any culture is my human rights.

You never understand.

And living in a mono Australian culture without any Chinese (or other cultures) is my human right. Checkmate.

Don't you just love human rights. What happens when my "rights" clash with your "rights"? That's right, it is called multiculturalism and it is the inevitable result. Hence why your ideal world doesn't work and you should keep your Chinese culture in china.

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Reply #153 - Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:57pm

You can live in any culture, but you can not decide what's the culture your neighbor live in.

It's every easy to understand. Everyone have the rights to publish their political opinion, but no one can forbid others to publish their political opinion. Even the opinion is different.

Quantum wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:55pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

I'm sorry. living in any culture is my human rights.

You never understand.

And living in a mono Australian culture without any Chinese (or other cultures) is my human right. Checkmate.

Don't you just love human rights. What happens when my "rights" clash with your "rights"? That's right, it is called multiculturalism and it is the inevitable result. Hence why your ideal world doesn't work and you should keep your Chinese culture in china.

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Re: Call to scrap citizenship test - 'too hard'
Reply #154 - Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:58pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

Are you still believe the conquering legally?

Slaughter the people and plunder their land? You are still proud of it?

Do you believe if anyone have the power, they have rights to do it again to Australia, to you?

What you are thinking is same to Talibans.

It is amazing that you would want to live in a country built on so much blood. Why come to this illegal country to live?

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Reply #155 - Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:01pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

Are you still believe the conquering legally?

Slaughter the people and plunder their land? You are still proud of it?

Do you believe if anyone have the power, they can do it again to Australia?

What you are thinking is same to Talibans.

How come there are still Aborigines if we slaughtered them?

Plunder their land, you should do some research on Eddie Mabo and take note of how much land was given back to Aboriginal communities along with all the mining royalties they get.

The Taliban shoot girls in the head for getting educated ar4e you seriously suggesting we are like the Taliban?

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #156 - Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:01pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:01pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

Are you still believe the conquering legally?

Slaughter the people and plunder their land? You are still proud of it?

Do you believe if anyone have the power, they can do it again to Australia?

What you are thinking is same to Talibans.

How come there are still Aborigines if we slaughtered them?

Plunder their land, you should do some research on Eddie Mabo and take note of how much land was given back to Aboriginal communities along with all the mining royalties they get to supplement their welfare payments.

The Taliban shoot girls in the head for getting educated ar4e you seriously suggesting we are like the Taliban?

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: Call to scrap citizenship test - 'too hard'
Reply #157 - Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:02pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:57pm:

You can live in any culture, but you can not decide what's the culture your neighbor live in.

It's every easy to understand. Everyone have the rights to publish their political opinion, but no one can forbid others to publish their political opinion. Even the opinion is different.

Quantum wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:55pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

I'm sorry. living in any culture is my human rights.

You never understand.

And living in a mono Australian culture without any Chinese (or other cultures) is my human right. Checkmate.

Don't you just love human rights. What happens when my "rights" clash with your "rights"? That's right, it is called multiculturalism and it is the inevitable result. Hence why your ideal world doesn't work and you should keep your Chinese culture in china.

Do you understand culture? Culture works on a national level, not behind a persons front door. How exactly do we live when your culture completely clashes with my own?

You still have not answered what it is that you actually give to the people of this nation. Not some fairy stuff about building a better would without "separated society". What is it you actually do to make this place better?

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Reply #158 - Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:04pm

Is there any problem that you move to a suburb that some crimes happened 30 years ago?

However, I have to admit, I never believe there are still some people proud of the crimes.

Quantum wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:58pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

Are you still believe the conquering legally?

Slaughter the people and plunder their land? You are still proud of it?

Do you believe if anyone have the power, they have rights to do it again to Australia, to you?

What you are thinking is same to Talibans.

It is amazing that you would want to live in a country built on so much blood. Why come to this illegal country to live?

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Reply #159 - Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:10pm

I'm a researcher with my passion and technologies. Australia mostly lie on mining recently. It con't be forever. And I believe the new technologies can improve Australia a lot while the main problem of Australia is not lack of resource but lack of labour force.

There is no separated society if you communicate with people from different culture.

It's what you want (as the hightlight) make the separated society.

Quantum wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:02pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:57pm:

You can live in any culture, but you can not decide what's the culture your neighbor live in.

It's every easy to understand. Everyone have the rights to publish their political opinion, but no one can forbid others to publish their political opinion. Even the opinion is different.

Quantum wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:55pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

I'm sorry. living in any culture is my human rights.

You never understand.

And living in a mono Australian culture without any Chinese (or other cultures) is my human right. Checkmate.

Don't you just love human rights. What happens when my "rights" clash with your "rights"? That's right, it is called multiculturalism and it is the inevitable result. Hence why your ideal world doesn't work and you should keep your Chinese culture in china.

Do you understand culture? Culture works on a national level, not behind a persons front door. How exactly do we live when your culture completely clashes with my own?

You still have not answered what it is that you actually give to the people of this nation. Not some fairy stuff about building a better would without "separated society". What is it you actually do to make this place better?

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Re: Call to scrap citizenship test - 'too hard'
Reply #160 - Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:13pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:04pm:

Is there any problem that you move to a suburb that some crimes happened 30 years ago?

However, I have to admit, I never believe there are still some people proud of the crimes.

Of course not. But I wouldn't move in and start blaming the locals for the crimes of the past. You however have no issue blaming whitey for any mistakes in Australia's history, while also unable to give any credit for making this nation what it is.

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Re: Call to scrap citizenship test - 'too hard'
Reply #162 - Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:15pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:

I'm a researcher with my passion and technologies. Australia mostly lie on mining recently. It con't be forever. And I believe the new technologies can improve Australia a lot while the main problem of Australia is not lack of resource but lack of labour force.

There is no separated society if you communicate with people from different culture.

It's what you want (as the hightlight) make the separated society.

What technology? What technology do you bring that we don't already have?

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Reply #163 - Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:19pm

I did not blaming anyone at first. I start to reply the topics when they blaming Chinese purchased properties.

And my opinion is not blaming but learn the good parts from each others.

What I want to do is only to find a way that all the people from different cultures can live together in peace, equal and happiness.

Quantum wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:13pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:04pm:

Is there any problem that you move to a suburb that some crimes happened 30 years ago?

However, I have to admit, I never believe there are still some people proud of the crimes.

Of course not. But I wouldn't move in and start blaming the locals for the crimes of the past. You however have no issue blaming whitey for any mistakes in Australia's history, while also unable to give any credit for making this nation what it is.

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Reply #164 - Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:22pm

I do not want to discuss my research details here.

Do you really think you have all the technologies in the world?

Your words only shows your nescience.

Quantum wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:15pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:

I'm a researcher with my passion and technologies. Australia mostly lie on mining recently. It con't be forever. And I believe the new technologies can improve Australia a lot while the main problem of Australia is not lack of resource but lack of labour force.

There is no separated society if you communicate with people from different culture.

It's what you want (as the hightlight) make the separated society.

What technology? What technology do you bring that we don't already have?

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