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Reply #105 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 5:57pm

skippy. wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 4:53pm:

IWontPayMyBills wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 4:48pm:

I'm sorry, but we are just not going to play the states game and compete in their emissions trading Marxist Economy for resources. Enjoy getting your power bills sent back to you RED.

Not as much as I'll enjoy watching you bitch and whine when your power is disconnected due to the fact you refused to pay your bill. I will delight in centre link taking money out of your payments to cover the bills you refused to pay. Grin

Actually, he raises an interesting point.....

Wouldn't it send the message about the rises in power costs
if everyone protested by simply sending their UNOPENED power
bills BACK to the provider?

IF enough people did it, surely either they or the govt would
HAVE to see and acknowledge that we are NOT happy.

And yes, I know we'd still have to pay, but as a
form of protest it has a lot going for it.

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Re: GetUp - GetStuffed!!
Reply #106 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 5:59pm

The reality is the Government wants to literally create an economy based on artificially engineered scarcity and try to force us to compete in it like animals or savages for the right to survive in their Emissions Trading scheme. We will not give them oxygen - we will not waste on dollar of our personal resources fruitlessly acquiring skills to compete endlessly and fruitlessly in an unstable, unsafe work environment like slaves. we wont compete, we wont pay the Carbon tax and if that means sending our power bills back unpaid then so be it, but we will resist them, we will defeat them through our united collective passive aggressive resistance.

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IWontPayMyBills Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 612	Re: GetUp - GetStuffed!! Reply #107 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:01pm You want us educated and skilled - you pay for it, you want labour - you supply a safe secure work environment and jobs otherwize go to buggery Karl Marx.
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Re: GetUp - GetStuffed!!
Reply #108 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:05pm

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IF enough people did it, surely either they or the govt would
HAVE to see and acknowledge that WE are NOT happy.
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Why should the whole country pamper to the minority confusionalists????
Over 70% of Aussies want action on climate change, those bitching and whining are nothing but the runts of the litter, too stupid to believe the majority of the scientific community and happy to take the word of nutjob shock jocks.

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Reply #109 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:08pm

IWontPayMyBills wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 5:40pm:

skippy. wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 5:32pm:

beware wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 5:28pm:

GetUp!....2011's version of the Nazi Storm Troopers of the 1930's...their here to do the "dirty work" of their masters...The Greens (Communist Party)...

We already have plenty of nutjobs here, beware, you'll need to stand in line if you want to make ridiculous comment like that.

says the boards most nasty discredited troll.

nope. I will have to agree with Skippy on this one, bedwetter bill. you are TRULY a fruitcake. How you stay out of hospital is an indictment on our mental health system. you shoudlnt be allowed out on your own.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #110 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:10pm

Kat wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 5:57pm:

skippy. wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 4:53pm:

IWontPayMyBills wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 4:48pm:

I'm sorry, but we are just not going to play the states game and compete in their emissions trading Marxist Economy for resources. Enjoy getting your power bills sent back to you RED.

Not as much as I'll enjoy watching you bitch and whine when your power is disconnected due to the fact you refused to pay your bill. I will delight in centre link taking money out of your payments to cover the bills you refused to pay. Grin

Actually, he raises an interesting point.....

Wouldn't it send the message about the rises in power costs
if everyone protested by simply sending their UNOPENED power
bills BACK to the provider?

IF enough people did it, surely either they or the govt would
HAVE to see and acknowledge that we are NOT happy.

And yes, I know we'd still have to pay, but as a
form of protest it has a lot going for it.

and get everybody cutoff? brilliant idea! or we could try the californian idea and just pass a law banning power rises. they tried that and the end result was the bankruptcy of EVERY energy provider. that lead to mass power cuts.

not a good idea at all and the fact it came from Bedwetter Bill should have been your first clue.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #111 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:13pm

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Unfortunately, they will count me among those members. I simply wrote them a 'please explain' re: their inaction over labors malaysian solution, next thing I know they're sending me 'welcome to getup emails'
I want nothing to do with the clowns, and I wonder how many more of the 570,000 actually believe in them.

Yep they got me too - so I would question their actual membership numbers.

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Reply #112 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:19pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:10pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 5:57pm:

skippy. wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 4:53pm:

IWontPayMyBills wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 4:48pm:

I'm sorry, but we are just not going to play the states game and compete in their emissions trading Marxist Economy for resources. Enjoy getting your power bills sent back to you RED.

Not as much as I'll enjoy watching you bitch and whine when your power is disconnected due to the fact you refused to pay your bill. I will delight in centre link taking money out of your payments to cover the bills you refused to pay. Grin

Actually, he raises an interesting point.....

Wouldn't it send the message about the rises in power costs
if everyone protested by simply sending their UNOPENED power
bills BACK to the provider?

IF enough people did it, surely either they or the govt would
HAVE to see and acknowledge that we are NOT happy.

And yes, I know we'd still have to pay, but as a
form of protest it has a lot going for it.

and get everybody cutoff? brilliant idea! or we could try the californian idea and just pass a law banning power rises. they tried that and the end result was the bankruptcy of EVERY energy provider. that lead to mass power cuts.

not a good idea at all and the fact it came from Bedwetter Bill should have been your first clue.

Did you read the last sentence?

Bedwetters notwithstanding, it is an effective, non-violent
form of protest.

About any number of things......

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Re: GetUp - GetStuffed!!
Reply #113 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:22pm

stud1 wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:13pm:

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Unfortunately, they will count me among those members. I simply wrote them a 'please explain' re: their inaction over labors malaysian solution, next thing I know they're sending me 'welcome to getup emails'
I want nothing to do with the clowns, and I wonder how many more of the 570,000 actually believe in them.

Yep they got me too - so I would question their actual membership numbers.

I supported them on a couple of issues, now they email
me about every campaign they have running, and frankly
I don't support a lot of them.

And this is one of those times....

I was, as I said earlier, very disappointed in them
when they rolled-over on their opposition
to internet censorship.

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Reply #114 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:40pm

Kat wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:19pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:10pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 5:57pm:

skippy. wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 4:53pm:

IWontPayMyBills wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 4:48pm:

I'm sorry, but we are just not going to play the states game and compete in their emissions trading Marxist Economy for resources. Enjoy getting your power bills sent back to you RED.

Not as much as I'll enjoy watching you bitch and whine when your power is disconnected due to the fact you refused to pay your bill. I will delight in centre link taking money out of your payments to cover the bills you refused to pay. Grin

Actually, he raises an interesting point.....

Wouldn't it send the message about the rises in power costs
if everyone protested by simply sending their UNOPENED power
bills BACK to the provider?

IF enough people did it, surely either they or the govt would
HAVE to see and acknowledge that we are NOT happy.

And yes, I know we'd still have to pay, but as a
form of protest it has a lot going for it.

and get everybody cutoff? brilliant idea! or we could try the californian idea and just pass a law banning power rises. they tried that and the end result was the bankruptcy of EVERY energy provider. that lead to mass power cuts.

not a good idea at all and the fact it came from Bedwetter Bill should have been your first clue.

Did you read the last sentence?

Bedwetters notwithstanding, it is an effective, non-violent
form of protest.

About any number of things......

protest is only viable and effective en masse. if 1000 people decided not to pay their bills, 1000 people would have their power cut off. if 10,000 did that it woudl be newsworthy and an extension to pay granted and THEN cut off. you would need 100,000- 1,000,000 to get any impact and you'd never get that.

I repeat, it is a bedwetter billl idea so you can dispense with it without a second thought.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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IWontPayMyBills Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 612	Re: GetUp - GetStuffed!! Reply #115 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:44pm No they do not have the right to cut peoples power off for refusing to pay a carbon tax. They cannot and they will not because they will be legally culpable for the consequences of such actions.
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Re: GetUp - GetStuffed!!
Reply #116 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 7:03pm

IWontPayMyBills wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:44pm:

No they do not have the right to cut peoples power off for refusing to pay a carbon tax.

This "carbon tax" is the cost of permits purchased by electricity producers - based on Co2 emissions

It is NOT an "add on" retail tax - like the GST

Suppliers can legally disconnect ANYONE for not meeting the payment terms of the contract

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: GetUp - GetStuffed!! Reply #117 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 7:22pm I heard the interview with GetUp's director - he's a knob He didn't even denied he acted this way. And they do not have 430,000 members - it's a scam Who is their largest donor of $1.1M So what are they trying to represent when they the average donation is $45? http://www.getup.org.au/about/disclosure
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Reply #118 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 7:22pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 4:15pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 3:49pm:

URGENT: Help Us Stop GetUp!'s Blackmail

http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/2011/07/urgent-help-us-stop-getups-blackmail.html...

And the
Liberal Party of Australia
have EVERY right to respond in this manner

GetUp
FULLY supports democracy - and freedom of speech

will GETUP be responding to this ?

Australia govt grants ten oil and gas exploration permits

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CANBERRA, July 8 | Thu Jul 7, 2011 8:23pm EDT

CANBERRA, July 8 (Reuters) - Australia's government granted on Friday permits for six companies to explore for oil and gas in Australian waters off the Western Australia and South Australian coasts in areas open for bidding under the 2010 offshore petroleum acreage release.

Resources and Energy Minister Martin Ferguson said exploration work, worth A$137 million over three years, would be carried out by Apache , MEO Australia Limited, Chevron Barcoo Pty Ltd., Flow Energy Limited, PTTEP

or doesnt this affect our footprint? a bit like petrol doesnt all of a sudden.

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Re: GetUp - GetStuffed!!
Reply #119 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 7:26pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 7:03pm:

IWontPayMyBills wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 6:44pm:

No they do not have the right to cut peoples power off for refusing to pay a carbon tax.

This "carbon tax" is the cost of permits purchased by electricity producers - based on Co2 emissions

It is NOT an "add on" retail tax - like the GST

Suppliers can legally disconnect ANYONE for not meeting the payment terms of the contract

No they can not legally do any such thing - we're not gonna pay it - no we're not gonna pay it - we're not gonna pay it any more. No Private company has the right to cut off power that legally belongs to the people, not a company, not the government - the people. They have no legal right to impose a carbon tax on our power they have stolen through piracy. The labour party's many crimes over past decades are not forgotten.

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