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Re: Interview with Christopher Monckton
Reply #15 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 8:56pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 2:07pm:
Just watched the National Press Club debate between Dr Richard Denniss and Lord Christopher Monckton...

Quite interesting.....Dr Denniss spoke quite well (although not quite as confidently as Lord Monckton, which might be due to experience)...as did Lord Monckton...

Quite informative, especially on Lord Monckton's actual views on ACC.....Not what a lot of people on here suspect I think...


Do you have a link?
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Re: Interview with Christopher Monckton
Reply #16 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 10:42pm
 
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I doubt it, Monckton is a master of obfuscation. I'm well aware of what he is capable of.

And in the news today, the House of Lords disowns Monckton and demands he cease and desist in claiming to be a member.

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Controversial climate change sceptic Christopher Monckton has been warned by the House of Lords not to misrepresent himself as a member of the upper house of the UK Parliament in the wake of an Australian radio stoush.
Mr Monckton was chastised through an open letter published on the UK Parliament's website that requested he "desist from claiming to be a Member of the House of Lords".
The letter cites a recent interview with the ABC's Adam Spencer, during which Mr Monckton told him: "I am a Member of the House" but "without the right to sit or vote".

The radio interview became heated with Mr Monckton telling Mr Spencer to "shut up". The radio host at one stage hung up on his guest.
The letter was written by Clerk of the Parliaments David Beamish, who said his predecessor had written to Mr Monckton twice last year with a similar request.
Mr Beamish said while Mr Monckton, who is a Viscount, was a peer, that was not the same thing as being a member of the House of Lords.
He said he had published the letter on the internet to ensure that anyone wanting to check Mr Monckton's credentials could do so.
Mr Monckton today debated with the Australia Institute's executive director, economist Richard Denniss, at the National Press Club.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/radio-stoush-triggers-parliamentary-anger-20110719-1hmo1.html#ixzz1SYRYYLNK


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Re: Interview with Christopher Monckton
Reply #17 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 10:54pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 8:56pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 2:07pm:
Just watched the National Press Club debate between Dr Richard Denniss and Lord Christopher Monckton...

Quite interesting.....Dr Denniss spoke quite well (although not quite as confidently as Lord Monckton, which might be due to experience)...as did Lord Monckton...

Quite informative, especially on Lord Monckton's actual views on ACC.....Not what a lot of people on here suspect I think...


Do you have a link?


No, not yet...it usually takes a day or two for the website to update..
When the vid appears, I will link it though..
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Re: Interview with Christopher Monckton
Reply #18 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:00pm
 
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Bolt has a look-see...



Monckton’s commanding performance at the National Press Club today made the vast majority of journalists there seem:

- warmist group thinkers in a pack attack.

- under-researched

- ignorant of basic criticisms of warmist deceits, with one journalist even referring to carbon dioxide as “pollution” and another accusing Monckton falsely of denying “climate change”.

What was shown would have confirmed the suspicions of many about the bias of the media in reporting global warming.


http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/monck...



Monckton comments on the climate muppets carry on about his 'title'...


“The House of Lords Act 1999 debarred all but 92 of the 650 Hereditary Peers, including my father, from sitting or voting, and purported to – but did not – remove membership of the Upper House. Letters Patent granting peerages, and consequently membership, are the personal gift of the Monarch. Only a specific law can annul a grant. The 1999 Act was a general law. The then Government, realizing this defect, took three maladroit steps: it wrote asking expelled Peers to return their Letters Patent (though that does not annul them); in 2009 it withdrew the passes admitting expelled Peers to the House (and implying they were members); and it told the enquiry clerks to deny they were members: but a written Parliamentary Answer by the Lord President of the Council admits that general legislation cannot annul Letters Patent, so I am The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley (as my passport shows), a member of the Upper House but without the right to sit or vote, and I have never pretended otherwise.”


Heh, the Monckton 'title' is certainly handy to stir up the climate muppets..
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Re: Interview with Christopher Monckton
Reply #19 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:04pm
 
astro_surf wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 10:42pm:
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.Not what a lot of people on here suspect I think...


I doubt it, Monckton is a master of obfuscation. I'm well aware of what he is capable of.

And in the news today, the House of Lords disowns Monckton and demands he cease and desist in claiming to be a member.

Quote:
Controversial climate change sceptic Christopher Monckton has been warned by the House of Lords not to misrepresent himself as a member of the upper house of the UK Parliament in the wake of an Australian radio stoush.
Mr Monckton was chastised through an open letter published on the UK Parliament's website that requested he "desist from claiming to be a Member of the House of Lords".
The letter cites a recent interview with the ABC's Adam Spencer, during which Mr Monckton told him: "I am a Member of the House" but "without the right to sit or vote".

The radio interview became heated with Mr Monckton telling Mr Spencer to "shut up". The radio host at one stage hung up on his guest.
The letter was written by Clerk of the Parliaments David Beamish, who said his predecessor had written to Mr Monckton twice last year with a similar request.
Mr Beamish said while Mr Monckton, who is a Viscount, was a peer, that was not the same thing as being a member of the House of Lords.
He said he had published the letter on the internet to ensure that anyone wanting to check Mr Monckton's credentials could do so.
Mr Monckton today debated with the Australia Institute's executive director, economist Richard Denniss, at the National Press Club.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/radio-stoush-triggers-parliamentary-anger-20110719-1hmo1.html#ixzz1SYRYYLNK




I think you'd be a little surprised astro....
He does believe in climate change (as do I, since it's been happening for 4.5 Billion years) however, he ALSO believes that adding Co2 will increase the temperatures...

But he doesn't think the climate sensitivity is any where near as bad as  as the IPCC and the Australian Government claims..
His concept is that temp increases won't be much more than 1 degree Celcius per century....as it's been since 1750....as opposed to the IPCC's figure of 3.3 celcius or our Gov's figure of 5.5 celcius....
And he doesn't think the Liberal's Direct Action Plan is any better than the Carbon Tax..
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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Interview with Christopher Monckton
Reply #20 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:05pm
 
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Bunyipitude asks some questions...



"FORTY EIGHT hours have passed since Wendy Carlisle of  Background Briefing put to air her assault on Viscount Monckton -- two days in which a transcript of the sixty-minute slander has failed to appear.

The ABC must struggle through on a paltry billion-or-so dollars per year, but surely it could have processed and posted the script by now. Unless, of course, it would prefer to make a line-by-line examination of its handiwork rather difficult.

Readers might like to drop ABC supremo Mark Scott a polite note and..."

http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com/2011/07/missing-link.html






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Reply #21 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:08pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 10:54pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 8:56pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 2:07pm:
Just watched the National Press Club debate between Dr Richard Denniss and Lord Christopher Monckton...

Quite interesting.....Dr Denniss spoke quite well (although not quite as confidently as Lord Monckton, which might be due to experience)...as did Lord Monckton...

Quite informative, especially on Lord Monckton's actual views on ACC.....Not what a lot of people on here suspect I think...


Do you have a link?


No, not yet...it usually takes a day or two for the website to update..
When the vid appears, I will link it though..


Thanks I look forward to watching the debate Smiley
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Reply #22 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:10pm
 
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The Climate muppets should look up the word "Hereditary" then they will understand..
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Reply #23 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:14pm
 
Flying Binghi wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:05pm:
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Bunyipitude asks some questions...



"FORTY EIGHT hours have passed since Wendy Carlisle of  Background Briefing put to air her assault on Viscount Monckton -.


That's hilarious because it was Wendy who was physically assaulted by Monckton thuggish and violent supporters:

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/backgroundbriefing/stories/2011/3268730.htm

I strongly recommend listening to this one too, Smithy  Angry
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Reply #24 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:16pm
 
Flying Binghi wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:10pm:
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[color=#0000ff]The Climate muppets should look up the word "Hereditary" then they will understand...


Climate muppets:

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-information-office/2011/letter-to-visco...

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Reply #25 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:18pm
 
I suppose the deniers believe he has cured HIV, Malaria and MS too!!



That's one hell of an expert you guys have got on your side!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #26 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:26pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:08pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 10:54pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 8:56pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 2:07pm:
Just watched the National Press Club debate between Dr Richard Denniss and Lord Christopher Monckton...

Quite interesting.....Dr Denniss spoke quite well (although not quite as confidently as Lord Monckton, which might be due to experience)...as did Lord Monckton...

Quite informative, especially on Lord Monckton's actual views on ACC.....Not what a lot of people on here suspect I think...


Do you have a link?


No, not yet...it usually takes a day or two for the website to update..
When the vid appears, I will link it though..


Thanks I look forward to watching the debate Smiley


Found a copy on Youtube smithy...It runs an hour though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=207lg-1GWAE

And just for giggles, count the number of times Dr Denniss mentions 'conspiracy'...
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Reply #27 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:50pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:26pm:
And just for giggles, count the number of times Dr Denniss mentions 'conspiracy'...


He's debating with someone who has repeatedly asserted that AGW is a One World Government conspiracy, yes these are your denier bedfellows Gizmo, you can't hand wave away the conspiracy theory that  exists by necessity at the heart of any denier mindset.



This is your expert.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #28 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 11:23am
 
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astro_surf wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:16pm:
Flying Binghi wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:10pm:
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The Climate muppets should look up the word "Hereditary" then they will understand...


Climate muppets:

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-information-office/2011/letter-to-visco...





[color=#0000ff]Again, via Monckton


“The House of Lords Act 1999 debarred all but 92 of the 650 Hereditary Peers, including my father, from sitting or voting, and purported to – but did not – remove membership of the Upper House. Letters Patent granting peerages, and consequently membership, are the personal gift of the Monarch. Only a specific law can annul a grant. The 1999 Act was a general law. The then Government, realizing this defect, took three maladroit steps: it wrote asking expelled Peers to return their Letters Patent (though that does not annul them); in 2009 it withdrew the passes admitting expelled Peers to the House (and implying they were members); and it told the enquiry clerks to deny they were members: but a written Parliamentary Answer by the Lord President of the Council admits that general legislation cannot annul Letters Patent, so I am The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley (as my passport shows), a member of the Upper House but without the right to sit or vote, and I have never pretended otherwise.”


Heh, the Monckton 'title' is certainly handy to stir up the climate muppets..
Grin








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Reply #29 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 12:12pm
 
astro_surf wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:50pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 11:26pm:
And just for giggles, count the number of times Dr Denniss mentions 'conspiracy'...


He's debating with someone who has repeatedly asserted that AGW is a One World Government conspiracy, yes these are your denier bedfellows Gizmo, you can't hand wave away the conspiracy theory that  exists by necessity at the heart of any denier mindset.



This is your expert.  Roll Eyes


But Lord Monckton never mentioned it (the conspiracy) during the entire debate....Only Dr Denniss did...

I can understand him ( Dr Denniss) bringing it up during his opening remarks, because there are people who think that a conspiracy exists.....
But why mention it again and again, in response to unrelated questions???

It just made him seem a little like a broken record...In the first half of the debate, it was almost like he only had a one paragraph speech memorised and he just kept looping back to those points...
Conspiracy
Tony Abbott can't find any economists
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It's like car/home insurance...

He did loosen up later and actual engage with the topic...but it took a while...
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