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Re: Nostradamus Time - Predictions Anyone?
Reply #15 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 8:54pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 8:17pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:44pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:04pm:
stryder wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 5:19pm:
Hey Perceptions, have you got anymore pessimistic predictions that I can be amused about ????


this thread was caused by me because I had the audacity to remind pinhead that my predictions of 4 years ago turned out pretty right and his were universally and massively wrong.

sore losers are entertaining.


There are a few major differences between us LW/Stryder, including -
1) I am willing to provide, clear predictions.
2) I am willing to provide, clear resons for my predictions.
3) I understand that the Political, Economic & Physical world, in which we live, is not static, it does change and I look at the variables that are likely to force change, as I consider how they may change the future.
4) I am not restrained by the restrictions imposed, by being a Right wing Conservative or a Left wing activist.

None of which includes, I right & your wrong!  

So, I don't notice either of you, yet putting your cohunes on the line.


as usual, pinhead you miss the acid test of a 'prophet' whish is BEING CORRECT. your reasoning is worthless if you are wrong and only of some value if you are RIGHT. and since your detailed ad nauseum predictions have been off by a wide margine no one cares about your flawed reasoning. you got it wrong. suck it up and ask yourself why or else you wil be no better than that idiot predicting the Rapture (several times) and getting it wrong.  if your methodology remains the same the results wil always be the same and in your case that means BEING WRONG.

move on.


So many words, just to say, your not willing to put your cohunes on the line?

And, the reason you are reluctant is, your likely to be proven wrong!
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Re: Nostradamus Time - Predictions Anyone?
Reply #16 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 9:20pm
 
Life_goes_on wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 8:24pm:
Too much random sh!t happens for anybody to accurately predict the future as far as politics and the economy go.

You might have a reasonable success rate when it comes to short term predictions, but once you start adding the years to your prediction range you have eff all chance of being any more accurate than pure chance.



I agree there is a lot of random chance involved!

However, the chances of correctly predicting events actually increases, along with numbers & time.

In other words, the chances of correctly predicting the reactions of one or a few people, over a short period of time, is pretty much hit & miss.

However, with a greater the number of people and a longer the period of time, the chances of correct predictions is actually better, providing you correctly assess the likely trend & changing variables and you are not saddled with pre-existing fixations.  

An example of time versus timing, is the current GFC!

Given the random possibilities of Politics, Economics & the Physical environment, it may be that some of the effects of the major factors involved, could mask &/or hide what is happening, on a tempoary basis.

However, over the medium to longer term, no matter what the Politicians or Economists try, they can not repair that which has been totally destroyed and the GFC will again come back, more destructive than before.

And that, is why I have repeatedly said, that the GFC will be obvious to almost all, by the end of 2012, because that should leave sufficient time for the Politicians to run out of their "fixes" and "other tricks".
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Reply #17 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 9:54pm
 
The carbon tax will be passed!!!

The mining tax will be passed!!!

The NBN will go ahead!!!

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Reply #18 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 10:02pm
 
I actually predict another hung parliament, simply because Abbott won't last the next two years without making a dick of himself at some stage.

The political climate is all one way at the moment, but that can hardly be attributed to Abbott. That guy has zero policies to talk about, only shootdowns on the Government.

As for economics, I think the focus will be entirely on the impending doom of the Euro. Who knows what effect the death of that currency will have on the EU. Revolutions? Civil Unrest? Maybe even War?

As always though, Australia will only get richer, whether we temporarily hit deficit or not.
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Reply #19 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 11:54pm
 
Political Predictions

2) The Liberal Party will win the next Queensland Election.
Because the Queensland Public will hope that the Liberals can deliver better Economic outcomes than Labor will be.
That hope will not be born out by reality.
They will also have had enough of Labor, after it (Labor) have been in power since 1989, except for a brief couple of years under Robert Borbidge, between 1996-1998.
In Politics, longevity breeds problems!
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Reply #20 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 11:59pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 11:54pm:
Political Predictions

2) The Liberal Party will win the next Queensland Election.
Because the Queensland Public will hope that the Liberals can deliver better Economic outcomes than Labor will be.
That hope will not be born out by reality.
They will also have had enough of Labor, after it (Labor) have been in power since 1989, except for a brief couple of years under Robert Borbidge, between 1996-1998.
In Politics, longevity breeds problems!


I have to disagree. Love her or hate her, Bligh's performance during the summer disasters was unprecedented. Yes, there is still a shitload of money left in the Premiers fund, but there must be an explainable reason for that, mostly to do with arseholes making false claims.

However, more so then Bligh, I have yet to meet one person who likes Campbell Newman. The man is an idiot, period.
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Re: Nostradamus Time - Predictions Anyone?
Reply #21 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 12:01am
 
An evil homosexual will become President of the United States
& this will usher in the return of Jesus & the end times.  Grin
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Re: Nostradamus Time - Predictions Anyone?
Reply #22 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 12:10am
 
GoddyofOz wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 11:59pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 11:54pm:
Political Predictions

2) The Liberal Party will win the next Queensland Election.
Because the Queensland Public will hope that the Liberals can deliver better Economic outcomes than Labor will be.
That hope will not be born out by reality.
They will also have had enough of Labor, after it (Labor) have been in power since 1989, except for a brief couple of years under Robert Borbidge, between 1996-1998.
In Politics, longevity breeds problems!


I have to disagree. Love her or hate her, Bligh's performance during the summer disasters was unprecedented. Yes, there is still a shitload of money left in the Premiers fund, but there must be an explainable reason for that, mostly to do with arseholes making false claims.

However, more so then Bligh, I have yet to meet one person who likes Campbell Newman. The man is an idiot, period.


You may be correct and you are entitled to your prediction!

However, to add to my predictions -
Political Predictions

3) The Libs complete a clean sweep

I suspect that we are now in transition from being completely Labor, in all states & Federally, to being all Liberal, for reasons similar to my Queensland prediction.
However, the Publics hope that the Liberals will be able to wave a magic wand and turn around the slowing Australian Economy, will not prove to be realistic, nor will it become reality.
In fact, the Economic situation in OZ will deteriorate, as the Liberals follow their past, which will now worsen the situation, as AUS-terity will actually exacerbate an already worsening OZ Economy!  
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Re: Nostradamus Time - Predictions Anyone?
Reply #23 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 12:17am
 
Not a prediction, but hasn't anyone wondered why?

Why the price of Oil has dropped recently from a high of around $114  barrel (WTi), to just over $90 a barrel today.

And, its done that whilst the US$ has actual risen nearly 3 full cents!

As I said, no prediction, just an observation. But I can make a suggestion for the decrease and that is because the big players are expecting a large Decline in Demand, from a slowing Global Economy!

Btw, the DOW has opened & is now DOWN 185, at 11,924.
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Reply #24 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 9:32am
 
I predict that  we have just lived  through Peak Abbott. And that Abbott will decline soon at a rappid pace.
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Reply #25 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 12:24pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 8:54pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 8:17pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:44pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:04pm:
stryder wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 5:19pm:
Hey Perceptions, have you got anymore pessimistic predictions that I can be amused about ????


this thread was caused by me because I had the audacity to remind pinhead that my predictions of 4 years ago turned out pretty right and his were universally and massively wrong.

sore losers are entertaining.


There are a few major differences between us LW/Stryder, including -
1) I am willing to provide, clear predictions.
2) I am willing to provide, clear resons for my predictions.
3) I understand that the Political, Economic & Physical world, in which we live, is not static, it does change and I look at the variables that are likely to force change, as I consider how they may change the future.
4) I am not restrained by the restrictions imposed, by being a Right wing Conservative or a Left wing activist.

None of which includes, I right & your wrong!  

So, I don't notice either of you, yet putting your cohunes on the line.


as usual, pinhead you miss the acid test of a 'prophet' whish is BEING CORRECT. your reasoning is worthless if you are wrong and only of some value if you are RIGHT. and since your detailed ad nauseum predictions have been off by a wide margine no one cares about your flawed reasoning. you got it wrong. suck it up and ask yourself why or else you wil be no better than that idiot predicting the Rapture (several times) and getting it wrong.  if your methodology remains the same the results wil always be the same and in your case that means BEING WRONG.

move on.


So many words, just to say, your not willing to put your cohunes on the line?

And, the reason you are reluctant is, your likely to be proven wrong!



I wil make my future predictions once you have the integrity to admit yours totally failed. no point in me making predictions which you will then misinterpret, rewrite while doing the same to all of yours.

pinhead, you are always wrong. you will be right a few times by good luck but mainly your rationale is pure doom-and-gloom which is why you are so often wrong.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Re: Nostradamus Time - Predictions Anyone?
Reply #26 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 12:26pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 9:20pm:
Life_goes_on wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 8:24pm:
Too much random sh!t happens for anybody to accurately predict the future as far as politics and the economy go.

You might have a reasonable success rate when it comes to short term predictions, but once you start adding the years to your prediction range you have eff all chance of being any more accurate than pure chance.



I agree there is a lot of random chance involved!

However, the chances of correctly predicting events actually increases, along with numbers & time.

In other words, the chances of correctly predicting the reactions of one or a few people, over a short period of time, is pretty much hit & miss.

However, with a greater the number of people and a longer the
period of time, the chances of correct predictions is actually better, providing you correctly assess the likely trend & changing variables and you are not saddled with pre-existing fixations.  

An example of time versus timing, is the current GFC!

Given the random possibilities of Politics, Economics & the Physical environment, it may be that some of the effects of the major factors involved, could mask &/or hide what is happening, on a tempoary basis.

However, over the medium to longer term, no matter what the Politicians or Economists try, they can not repair that which has been totally destroyed and the GFC will again come back, more destructive than before.

And that, is why I have repeatedly said, that the GFC will be obvious to almost all, by the end of 2012, because that should leave sufficient time for the Politicians to run out of their "fixes" and "other tricks".


this explains why you are always wrong. you actually beleive that the further into the future you go the BETTER the prediction? im not sure that ANYone actually subscribes to that nonsense.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #27 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 12:34pm
 
My prediction is that within 3 years there wil be no labor government of any kind in Australia.

I also predict that the Carbon tax will not come into operation. it MIGHT pass parliament although I am far from convinced but this government wil fall before it comes into operation.

I predict 2 years of sluggish grown in australia although only in the non-mining sectors but NOT recession.

I predict the USA wil fail to fully recover for up to 10 years as their debt ensures a real recovery is impossible until it is tackled. a possible double-dip recession but only light.

I predict a split in the EU with several countries being ditched eg portugal spain greece and ireland.

I predict tony abbott will be PM for at least 4 years possibly more and that Turnball wil end up being treasurer as he is the obvious choice if he can get his play-well-with-others hat on.

I predict the Crows will win the AFL premiership in about FIVE years.

all but the last one has good reasoning behind it.
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Reply #28 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 12:41pm
 


longweekend58 wrote on Jun 24th, 2011 at 12:34pm:
My prediction is that within 3 years there wil be no labor government of any kind in Australia.

I also predict that the Carbon tax will not come into operation. it MIGHT pass parliament although I am far from convinced but this government wil fall before it comes into operation.

I predict 2 years of sluggish grown in australia although only in the non-mining sectors but NOT recession.

I predict the USA wil fail to fully recover for up to 10 years as their debt ensures a real recovery is impossible until it is tackled. a possible double-dip recession but only light.

I predict a split in the EU with several countries being ditched eg portugal spain greece and ireland.

I predict tony abbott will be PM for at least 4 years possibly more and that Turnball wil end up being treasurer as he is the obvious choice if he can get his play-well-with-others hat on.

I predict the Crows will win the AFL premiership in about FIVE years.

all but the last one has good reasoning behind it.




Just saving Longy's bizarro predictions for posterity...

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Reply #29 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 1:08pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 24th, 2011 at 12:24pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 8:54pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 8:17pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:44pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:04pm:
stryder wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 5:19pm:
Hey Perceptions, have you got anymore pessimistic predictions that I can be amused about ????


this thread was caused by me because I had the audacity to remind pinhead that my predictions of 4 years ago turned out pretty right and his were universally and massively wrong.

sore losers are entertaining.


There are a few major differences between us LW/Stryder, including -
1) I am willing to provide, clear predictions.
2) I am willing to provide, clear resons for my predictions.
3) I understand that the Political, Economic & Physical world, in which we live, is not static, it does change and I look at the variables that are likely to force change, as I consider how they may change the future.
4) I am not restrained by the restrictions imposed, by being a Right wing Conservative or a Left wing activist.

None of which includes, I right & your wrong!  

So, I don't notice either of you, yet putting your cohunes on the line.


as usual, pinhead you miss the acid test of a 'prophet' whish is BEING CORRECT. your reasoning is worthless if you are wrong and only of some value if you are RIGHT. and since your detailed ad nauseum predictions have been off by a wide margine no one cares about your flawed reasoning. you got it wrong. suck it up and ask yourself why or else you wil be no better than that idiot predicting the Rapture (several times) and getting it wrong.  if your methodology remains the same the results wil always be the same and in your case that means BEING WRONG.

move on.


So many words, just to say, your not willing to put your cohunes on the line?

And, the reason you are reluctant is, your likely to be proven wrong!



I wil make my future predictions once you have the integrity to admit yours totally failed. no point in me making predictions which you will then misinterpret, rewrite while doing the same to all of yours.

pinhead, you are always wrong. you will be right a few times by good luck but mainly your rationale is pure doom-and-gloom which is why you are so often wrong.


I predict, that this prediction of yours will prove to be wrong!
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