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Nostradamus Time - Predictions Anyone?
Jun 23rd, 2011 at 1:34pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 12:39pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jun 22nd, 2011 at 10:40pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2011 at 6:01pm:
Why? because my predictions were right and yours were wrong? surely that makes YOU the idiot.


Because your position has no reasoning, besides I'm right & your wrong???

It's nowhere!  


why does there have to be reasoning in such a  simple matter? My predictions were right and yours were wrong. it is that SIMPLE.

I did have my reasoning at the time and stil do. But as if to underline the point, the fact my predictions were accurate would imply my reasoning was superior to yours.


So, what are your Economic & Political "predictions" for the Australia, US, UK, European, Chinese & Globally, for the next year, 5 years, 10 years & 20 years?

And WHY?

I'll save them for posterity and feed "your predictions" back at the appropriate time.

Much of my thoughts & reasoning, are already out there, but I will recast them, for the above format & post them here, shortly!

So, aside from LW's predictions, which will most likely consist of "more of the same",
any & all are welcome to post Predictions on Economics, Politics & other issues and we will compare them at appropraite times, for accuracy.


Please include reasoning, because even a stopped clock can be right twice a day, but if we know your reasoning then we can say you were right, for the right reasons, it makes a world of difference.


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Reply #1 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 2:43pm
 
Political Predictions
1) The Liberal Party will win the next Federal Election.
Because the Australian Public will hope that the Liberals can deliver better Economic outcomes than Labor will be.
That hope will not be born out by reality.
It would be surprising to see the Feds go to a full term election.
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Reply #2 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 2:49pm
 
Doesn't it all end on the 21/12/2012?
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Reply #3 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 2:55pm
 
Economic:
1. The US will be reduced to being a client state of China. It's nearly there now.
2. The euro may not survive and the EU may divide into two or three political blocks with trade treaties like the original agreements.
3. The global economy will continue to lurch along between periods of bust & boom.

Political:
1. The western Pacific will become a Chinese sea and the American navy will be dwarfed by the combined forces of China & India, which already has about the third biggest navy.
2, The Indian Ocean will become much more important in global politics and therefore Australia's west will become more strategic. The US will increasingly have major bases in WA.
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Reply #4 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 5:02pm
 
Economic Predictions

1) Bewteen now and the end of 2012, it will become abundantly evident to almost all, that a Global Economic slowdown, of once in history proportions is underway!

This Slowdown, Recession, Depression will be like a Boa Constrictor, it will strangle the life out of you first, then swallow you whole!

There are a number of factors coming together to form this event, including -
a) The Baby Boomer Bust
Where Demand for many Products & Services, will first slow, then actually Decline over a 20-30 year period, as Baby Boomers first Retire, then start to die.
This is the natural & logical conclusion, to an 80-100 year transition from the first Boomer Birth, to the Last Boomer death.

b) Peak  Energy
The great Economic growth Enabler of the modern era is now dying and along with that death, will go the tremendous amounts of spare Energy capacity, which has enabled the growth in Population to proceed at such a rapid speed.

I hear some say, the King is dead, long live the next King!

Problems is that for many of the functions where Oil is used there is no heir apparent and even where it is possible, the transition period is many decades on a Global basis, which is much more time than we actually have left.

c) Debt  
In many countries of the world, such as the USA, UK, the Piigs of Europe & many more, Debt is already beyond control.

Those where Debt is not already a massive problem, like Australia and a select group of other countries, will soon be caught up by the Boomer & Peak Energy Busts.

As I have said previously, Good luck & watch the Debt.
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Reply #5 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 5:13pm
 
Quote:
a) The Baby Boomer Bust
Where Demand for many Products & Services, will first slow, then actually Decline over a 20-30 year period, as Baby Boomers first Retire, then start to die.
This is the natural & logical conclusion, to an 80-100 year transition from the first Boomer Birth, to the Last Boomer death.

b) Peak  Energy
The great Economic growth Enabler of the modern era is now dying and along with that death, will go the tremendous amounts of spare Energy capacity, which has enabled the growth in Population to proceed at such a rapid speed.





Grin Grin Grin, God Alimighty your so pessimistic, Perceptions now
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Reply #6 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 5:15pm
 
Quote:
a) The Baby Boomer Bust
Where Demand for many Products & Services, will first slow, then actually Decline over a 20-30 year period, as Baby Boomers first Retire, then start to die.
This is the natural & logical conclusion, to an 80-100 year transition from the first Boomer Birth, to the Last Boomer death.

b) Peak  Energy
The great Economic growth Enabler of the modern era is now dying and along with that death, will go the tremendous amounts of spare Energy capacity, which has enabled the growth in Population to proceed at such a rapid speed.




Grin Hey Perceptions, I THINK YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE EARTH WILL BE SWALLOWED UP BY TOO MUCH CO2 OR GLOBAL WARMING TO FEED YOUR PESSIMISM.
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Reply #7 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 5:19pm
 
Hey Perceptions, have you got anymore pessimistic predictions that I can be amused about ????
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Reply #8 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 5:33pm
 
Which 'Nostradamus' predictions?? Because there have been like 10 or 15 'End of the World' dates associated with Nostradamus' predictions so far..

AND all the 'other' predictions, have the same number of variables involved
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Reply #9 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 5:38pm
 
In 20 yrs time I will be at the right wing conservative old codgers protests whinging about everything the govt tries to do.
Oh what fun..I can hardly wait  Smiley
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Reply #10 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:04pm
 
stryder wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 5:19pm:
Hey Perceptions, have you got anymore pessimistic predictions that I can be amused about ????


this thread was caused by me because I had the audacity to remind pinhead that my predictions of 4 years ago turned out pretty right and his were universally and massively wrong.

sore losers are entertaining.
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Reply #11 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:44pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:04pm:
stryder wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 5:19pm:
Hey Perceptions, have you got anymore pessimistic predictions that I can be amused about ????


this thread was caused by me because I had the audacity to remind pinhead that my predictions of 4 years ago turned out pretty right and his were universally and massively wrong.

sore losers are entertaining.


There are a few major differences between us LW/Stryder, including -
1) I am willing to provide, clear predictions.
2) I am willing to provide, clear resons for my predictions.
3) I understand that the Political, Economic & Physical world, in which we live, is not static, it does change and I look at the variables that are likely to force change, as I consider how they may change the future.
4) I am not restrained by the restrictions imposed, by being a Right wing Conservative or a Left wing activist.

None of which includes, I right & your wrong!  

So, I don't notice either of you, yet putting your cohunes on the line.
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Reply #12 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 8:17pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:44pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:04pm:
stryder wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 5:19pm:
Hey Perceptions, have you got anymore pessimistic predictions that I can be amused about ????


this thread was caused by me because I had the audacity to remind pinhead that my predictions of 4 years ago turned out pretty right and his were universally and massively wrong.

sore losers are entertaining.


There are a few major differences between us LW/Stryder, including -
1) I am willing to provide, clear predictions.
2) I am willing to provide, clear resons for my predictions.
3) I understand that the Political, Economic & Physical world, in which we live, is not static, it does change and I look at the variables that are likely to force change, as I consider how they may change the future.
4) I am not restrained by the restrictions imposed, by being a Right wing Conservative or a Left wing activist.

None of which includes, I right & your wrong!  

So, I don't notice either of you, yet putting your cohunes on the line.


as usual, pinhead you miss the acid test of a 'prophet' whish is BEING CORRECT. your reasoning is worthless if you are wrong and only of some value if you are RIGHT. and since your detailed ad nauseum predictions have been off by a wide margine no one cares about your flawed reasoning. you got it wrong. suck it up and ask yourself why or else you wil be no better than that idiot predicting the Rapture (several times) and getting it wrong.  if your methodology remains the same the results wil always be the same and in your case that means BEING WRONG.

move on.
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Reply #13 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 8:24pm
 
Too much random sh!t happens for anybody to accurately predict the future as far as politics and the economy go.

You might have a reasonable success rate when it comes to short term predictions, but once you start adding the years to your prediction range you have eff all chance of being any more accurate than pure chance.

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Reply #14 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 8:36pm
 
I'd like to go on the record and predict that the next Australian of the year will be a close race between Damir Dokic and Mamdouh Habib.
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