astro_surf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 9:54am:


The problem with averages astro, is they are all so.........average.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:52am:

I can see your childish response, but you obviously forgot to ask the 5 year old how the ocean affects land mass, back to pre school for you.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 1:32pm:


Well just look at that skippy, the theory is changing already.

skippy you taking the piss out of someone's schooling is like an Aussie taking the piss out of New Zealand for lacking in culture.

I would bet my bottom dollar you went to a public state school too.

Kids who we used to challenge "Your dad works for my dad"

skippy. wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 1:47pm:


Really...and the CRU was predicting 'snow-free' winters 11 years ago...

"Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past

By Charles Onians


Monday, 20 March 2000

Britain's winter ends tomorrow with further indications of a striking environmental change: snow is starting to disappear from our lives.


Sledges, snowmen, snowballs and the excitement of waking to find that the stuff has settled outside are all a rapidly diminishing part of Britain's culture, as warmer winters - which scientists are attributing to global climate change - produce not only fewer white Christmases, but fewer white Januaries and Februaries.

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The first two months of 2000 were virtually free of significant snowfall in much of lowland Britain, and December brought only moderate snowfall in the South-east. It is the continuation of a trend that has been increasingly visible in the past 15 years: in the south of England, for instance, from 1970 to 1995 snow and sleet fell for an average of 3.7 days, while from 1988 to 1995 the average was 0.7 days. London's last substantial snowfall was in February 1991.

Global warming, the heating of the atmosphere by increased amounts of industrial gases, is now accepted as a reality by the international community. Average temperatures in Britain were nearly 0.6°C higher in the Nineties than in 1960-90, and it is estimated that they will increase by 0.2C every decade over the coming century. Eight of the 10 hottest years on record occurred in the Nineties.

However, the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".

"Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said.
The effects of snow-free winter in Britain are already becoming apparent. This year, for the first time ever, Hamleys, Britain's biggest toyshop, had no sledges on display in its Regent Street store. "It was a bit of a first," a spokesperson said.

Fen skating, once a popular sport on the fields of East Anglia, now takes place on indoor artificial rinks. Malcolm Robinson, of the Fenland Indoor Speed Skating Club in Peterborough, says they have not skated outside since 1997. "As a boy, I can remember being on ice most winters. Now it's few and far between," he said. "

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-p...

Oh and this one too from 1995, by the IPCC..

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/ipcc-1995-shrinking-snow-cover-in-...

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