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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Faith based groups can legally discriminate in Vic Reply #30 - Jun 5^th, 2011 at 9:30pm Sinister...
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Faith based groups can legally discriminate in Vic Reply #31 - Jun 5^th, 2011 at 9:40pm Soren wrote on Jun 5^th, 2011 at 9:30pm: Sinister... Yairs... Guess even the dictators of church doctrine take a cafeteria approach to who's a front bottom by biblical decree...
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Faith based groups can legally discriminate in Vic Reply #32 - Jun 5^th, 2011 at 10:00pm Sinister is Latin for left. It was the unclean hand, still is in third world hell holes. It was seen as an invertion, being crack-handed, like being a pr!ck-fancier. Not right.
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Reply #33 - Jun 5^th, 2011 at 10:06pm

Soren wrote on Jun 5^th, 2011 at 10:00pm:

Sinister is Latin for left.

Yep, knew that one.
Soren wrote on Jun 5^th, 2011 at 10:00pm:

It was the unclean hand, still is in third world hell holes. It was seen as an invertion, being crack-handed, like being a pr!ck-fancier. Not right.

Was a sign of the devil as well... Some of the older generations here might remember a time when left-handed kids had their left hand tied behind their back. Or nuns going psychopathic at the sight of a left-handed kid making a left handed sign of the cross... Then ool offa sudden... It's OK to be left? What? God changed his mind?

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Reply #34 - Jun 5^th, 2011 at 10:34pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 5^th, 2011 at 10:06pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 5^th, 2011 at 10:00pm:

Sinister is Latin for left.

Yep, knew that one.
Soren wrote on Jun 5^th, 2011 at 10:00pm:

It was the unclean hand, still is in third world hell holes. It was seen as an invertion, being crack-handed, like being a pr!ck-fancier. Not right.

Was a sign of the devil as well... Some of the older generations here might remember a time when left-handed kids had their left hand tied behind their back. Or nuns going psychopathic at the sight of a left-handed kid making a left handed sign of the cross... Then ool offa sudden... It's OK to be left? What? God changed his mind?

LOL...this lefty remembers being repeatedly rapped over the knuckles by no less than 3 different kindergarten teachers...

It sure was a bizarre initiation into the learning environment - and the injustice of the situation did nothing to promote my compliance with irrational rules or 'role models' - but I don't claim credit for the transient employment of said teachers...

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Reply #35 - Jun 5^th, 2011 at 11:10pm

Equitist wrote on Jun 5^th, 2011 at 10:34pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 5^th, 2011 at 10:06pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 5^th, 2011 at 10:00pm:

Sinister is Latin for left.

Yep, knew that one.
Soren wrote on Jun 5^th, 2011 at 10:00pm:

It was the unclean hand, still is in third world hell holes. It was seen as an invertion, being crack-handed, like being a pr!ck-fancier. Not right.

Was a sign of the devil as well... Some of the older generations here might remember a time when left-handed kids had their left hand tied behind their back. Or nuns going psychopathic at the sight of a left-handed kid making a left handed sign of the cross... Then ool offa sudden... It's OK to be left? What? God changed his mind?

LOL...this lefty remembers being repeatedly rapped over the knuckles by no less than 3 different kindergarten teachers...

It sure was a bizarre initiation into the learning environment - and the injustice of the situation did nothing to promote my compliance with irrational rules or 'role models' - but I don't claim credit for the transient employment of said teachers...

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Faith based groups can legally discriminate in Vic Reply #36 - Jun 10^th, 2011 at 11:56am Muslim worker sues Catholic diocese for religious discrimination http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=10610 She refused to take a lunch break during Ramadan. She wasn't told to eat lunch, only to take a break.
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Reply #37 - Jun 10^th, 2011 at 6:06pm

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Freediver - So now you support discrimination? What's next? Forcing the church to allow gays to preach against homosexuality?

Agreeing that under ten sports do disallow participation on the grounds of age is NOT supporting discrimination. You might say that I DO support discrimination in those circumstances. Not because I said so, but because I do in fact admit to it now. That comes under the rights of the child not to have their games mucked up by big fat bozos.

As for what happens in pulpits I have no interest whatsoever and nothing would surprise me.

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Reply #39 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 12:57am

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 7:58pm:

Grey you make it very hard to disagree with you when you keep changing your mind.

While I reserve the right to change my mind FD, (if I never did I'd be in danger of being a bigot) I don't accept that's what I've done here. As a general rule I'm against discrimination in sport. You've quite rightly drawn attention to an exceptional case. I don't think any reasonable person could point to it as evidence I'm a complete snowflake Grin

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Reply #40 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 6:43am

Sappho wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 4:59pm:

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This is so wrong, so backwards, so dark ages. Those that will wear the brunt of this draconian law will be women and homosexuals.

Women can discriminate and exclude men, from their groups
Homos can dicriminate and exclude straights from their groups
Murris can discriminate and exclude whites from their groups

The law only applies to one group who are never allowed to discriminate or excludeanyone and that is white hetrosexual males, everyone else has an exemption.

The law was never meant to make a more inclusive and non-discriminatory society only to remove power from white hetro males. It has done that so stop ya b1tchin.

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Reply #41 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 12:58pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 14^th, 2011 at 6:43am:

Sappho wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 4:59pm:

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This is so wrong, so backwards, so dark ages. Those that will wear the brunt of this draconian law will be women and homosexuals.

Women can discriminate and exclude men, from their groups
Homos can dicriminate and exclude straights from their groups
Murris can discriminate and exclude whites from their groups

The law only applies to one group who are never allowed to discriminate or excludeanyone and that is white hetrosexual males, everyone else has an exemption.

The law was never meant to make a more inclusive and non-discriminatory society only to remove power from white hetro males. It has done that so stop ya b1tchin.

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Reply #42 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 8:56pm

Grey wrote on Jun 14^th, 2011 at 12:57am:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 7:58pm:

Grey you make it very hard to disagree with you when you keep changing your mind.

While I reserve the right to change my mind FD, (if I never did I'd be in danger of being a bigot) I don't accept that's what I've done here. As a general rule I'm against discrimination in sport. You've quite rightly drawn attention to an exceptional case. I don't think any reasonable person could point to it as evidence I'm a complete snowflake Grin

It is not exceptional at all. It is the norm. They won't let me into the women's wrestling team either. Nor can I compete at the special olympics. And don't get me started on the masters tennis circuit. To make matters worse, I qualify for the US open, but they still won't let me play because I'm 'not good enough' (now there's a euphemism if I ever heard one). For some reason people have such a knee-jerk reaction to the term discrimination that they are blind to how common and how positive it is.

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Reply #43 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 11:16pm

freediver wrote on Jun 16^th, 2011 at 8:56pm:

Grey wrote on Jun 14^th, 2011 at 12:57am:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 7:58pm:

Grey you make it very hard to disagree with you when you keep changing your mind.

While I reserve the right to change my mind FD, (if I never did I'd be in danger of being a bigot) I don't accept that's what I've done here. As a general rule I'm against discrimination in sport. You've quite rightly drawn attention to an exceptional case. I don't think any reasonable person could point to it as evidence I'm a complete snowflake Grin

For some reason people have such a knee-jerk reaction to the term discrimination that they are blind to how common and how positive it is.

Ah, but words derive their meaning from the context of the language game within which they are used.... 'Discrimination' is not one word with only one meaning... said a Kraut once.

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