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buzzanddidj

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Advertising, Homophobia and Double Standards
Jun 1^st, 2011 at 5:44pm

Apparently, this is
OFFENSIVE ...

There has been an angry reaction to the removal of a safe sex advertisements in Brisbane featuring two gay men hugging.

Paul Martin from the Queensland Association of Healthy Communities says there has been dozens of complaints about the condom ads at bus shelters.

He says the reaction smacks of homophobia.

"I've got the complaint sent to the Advertising Standards Bureau in front of me and it reads, I quote "to promote this lifestyle to our youth is not in the interests of healthy communities - the only place this message should be seen would be to practising homosexuals, not to impressionable youth in our general public spaces'," he said.

"To me, that's pretty clearly homophobic"

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/06/01/3232450.htm

But THIS is quite
RESPECTABLE

A RAUNCHY Lee jeans "Lolita-style" advertisement portraying a young woman in a sexually explicit pose has been ruled inoffensive.
The Advertising Standards Board yesterday dismissed complaints about the advertisement – seen on billboards and in magazines – saying while it had sexual overtones, it was not inappropriate.

The advertisement is displayed on a billboard at South Yarra railway station

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/ad-not-too-raunchy/story-e6frf7l6-1111...

What's the MESSAGE ?

EXHIBIT "A" - Safe Sex

EXHIBIT "B" - Underage Sex

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: Advertising, Homophobia and Double Standards Reply #1 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 5:53pm Point well made, Buzz! Apparently, the objectifying 'bugger me' juvenile bimbo Ads are OK - but Ads which promote intimacy, mutual respect and protection betwixt adults are not!?
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Advertising, Homophobia and Double Standards Reply #2 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 5:54pm Aparrently only hommers have the right to complain about frivolous things. Don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot eh buzz?
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Re: Advertising, Homophobia and Double Standards
Reply #3 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 6:24pm

... wrote on Jun 1^st, 2011 at 5:54pm:

Aparrently only hommers have the right to complain about frivolous things.

Don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot eh buzz?

after a pile of frivolous complaints about ads over which you said nothing here comes the natural result. you poofters complain about EVERYTHING and when it comes back to bite you, you cry.

get over it.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Advertising, Homophobia and Double Standards Reply #4 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 6:37pm We can see by SOME of the replies, why an ad for safe sex is seen as confronting, yet an ad for skanky young sex is ok.
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Reply #5 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 8:02pm

Um, Buzz....

It wasn't the ASB who were responsible for the ad being
pulled, it was those extremist 'Christian' nutbars from
the ACL (Aust Christian Lobby) who spat the dummy
over the ad.

After an outcry from both gays AND 'straights', the
ad has been re-instated.

BTW, the ACL are one of the main supporters of the
Govt's flawed and unworkable net-filter, and seem to
have virtually unlimited access to Conroy and ACMA.

They are extremists whose views deserve
no credence whatsoever.

Also, I must say that I find NEITHER of the pics
you posted to be in any way offensive. It would
take a pretty sick mind to find the second pic
unacceptable, while the first is simple commonsense.

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Re: Advertising, Homophobia and Double Standards
Reply #6 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 8:18pm

I will explain it.

Leviticus 20:
Quote:

[13] If a man also lie with mankind,
as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination:
they shall surely be put to death;
their blood shall be upon them.

That also means that those 2 guys will burn forever in hellfire & damnation.
The advertising standards are saving them from hell fire.
See - it wasn't so hard to explain!

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: Advertising, Homophobia and Double Standards Reply #7 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 8:18pm Actually, Kat, I find the 'bugger-me' bimbo Ad to be offensive because it objectifies a girl who is pictured in a compromising pose with a phallic symbol on her lips...
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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Advertising, Homophobia and Double Standards Reply #8 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 8:21pm I don't have a problem with either ad.
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Re: Advertising, Homophobia and Double Standards
Reply #9 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 8:22pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/06/01/3233007.htm

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Gay safe sex ads reinstated after uproar

* Related Story: Complaint about gay safe sex ads 'homophobic'
* Related Link: Hack interview Christian Lobby

Ad company Adshel has reinstated a safe sex campaign for gay couples after it became clear a barrage of complaints about the ads were orchestrated by the Australian Christian Lobby (ACL).

The bus shelter poster campaign spruiking the message "rip and roll", features a gay couple hugging while holding a condom packet.

The offending ads were taken down from around Brisbane yesterday after Adshel, Brisbane City Council and the Advertising Standards Bureau received 30 complaints about the ads.

But the ads' removal also caused an uproar on social media sites, with many furious the posters were brought down.

In a statement issued this afternoon, Adshel said many of the complaints were part of an ACL campaign, and that it has reinstated the ads.

"It has now become clear Adshel has been the target of a coordinated ACL campaign," Adshel chief executive Steve McCarthy said.

"This has led us to review our decision to remove the campaign, and we will therefore reinstate the campaign with immediate effect."

Earlier today the ACL said the issue with the ads was about condoms, not homosexuality.

"I've been labelled homophobic. This has absolutely nothing to do with gay couples," spokeswoman Wendy Francis said.

"This has nothing to do with anything other than another condom ad in a bus shelter, where the children are catching buses to school and billboards where their parents are stopping at lights.

"I will continue to fight sexual imagery in our outdoor advertising until we can get it removed."

The removal of the ads sparked a furore online with #adshel appearing as a trending topic on Twitter today.

Twitter user seymourkylie said Adsehl should be "ashamed" for removing the ads, saying: "Let the standards bureau decide before bowing to fundamentalist pressure."

Another user, uueaver, says the removal of the ads may have had a different effect than intended.

"Hopefully by removing [the] ads, adshel have increased awareness of [the] rip and roll message," the user said.

But other users defended the views held by the ACL that condoms should not feature on public advertising.

"Procreation in public is to be avoided and not pandered to, curtains pleeze (sic)," Twitter user stevieholden said.

Earlier today one of the men featured in the ad, Michael O'Brien, said the campaign should be allowed to show its safe sex message in a public space.

"The aim of this campaign is to promote safe sex for gay men, but also for the wider community," Mr O'Brien said on Facebook.

"We also felt this campaign and the exposure these advertisements granted would help gain a wider level of acceptance of the gay community.

"The image displays not only love and tenderness; you can clearly see our engagement ring and the Christian cross which Anthony wears around his neck.

"We are real people, and this campaign is about real people. We have been together for six-and-a-half years; we've been engaged since August last year, and just last week we were approved to become foster parents, which will now be happening very soon.

"We are real people, with a real life, in real love."

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mavisdavis Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1512	Re: Advertising, Homophobia and Double Standards Reply #10 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 8:26pm Why go on and on about it?
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Re: Advertising, Homophobia and Double Standards
Reply #11 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 8:48pm

Equitist wrote on Jun 1^st, 2011 at 8:18pm:

Actually, Kat, I find the 'bugger-me' bimbo Ad to be offensive because it objectifies a girl who is pictured in a compromising pose with a phallic symbol on her lips...

To me, it's a young woman eating a lollipop. But I daresay
that one could find something sexually offensive in just about
anything...IF that's what they're LOOKING to find.

As did the ACL with the condom ad, and as did those
who complained about the lollipop girl.

To me, the views and attitudes of those who seek to ban
these types of thing are far more offensive than that which
they are complaining about. The more-so because they are
seeking to impose THEIR views on others.

DISCLAIMER: - The above comments are not directed at any
specific person, be they here or elsewhere, they are simply
my personal views.

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Reply #12 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 9:52pm

There's a fear that sexual orientation can be taught. As more and more children are being raised by same sex couples evidence mounts that that isn't the case. The more ads that depict homosexuality the less will be their impact.

Most heterosexual men, (of my generation) find homosexuality between males a bit confronting, myself included, though I've spent years pushing it down overcoming it rejecting homophobia. Of course lesbianism we find merely titillating challenging in a nice way. It's the strongest and last religious taboo and is truly awful and damaging to our society. Homophobia - it's sad.

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Re: Advertising, Homophobia and Double Standards
Reply #13 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 10:00pm

A VICTORY for COMMON SENSE and anti-RELIGIOUS ZEALOTRY

Thanks, thy, for the UPDATE

Rip & Roll - Queenslanders Stand Up to Australian Christian Lobby

Media Release
1st June 2011

Healthy Communities Welcomes the Return of ‘Rip & Roll’ and Thanks Our Supporters

Healthy Communities welcomes the decision of Adshel to reinstate the ‘Rip & Roll’ campaign to bus shelters across Brisbane with immediate effect.

In a statement released today, Adshel CEO Steve McCarthy stated “It has now become clear that Adshel has been the target of a coordinated ACL campaign. This has led us to review our decision to remove the campaign and we will therefore reinstate the campaign with immediate effect.”“

We thank Adshel for coming to the correct decision and look forward to working with them in this and future sexual health campaigns” said Paul Martin, Healthy Communities Executive Director.

“We’d also like to thank the tens of thousands of supporters who lent their voice, mainly via Facebook and Twitter, to getting the adverts reinstated.

Special appreciation must also go to Michael and his partner who appear in the advert and have been such great advocates for the gay community.”

“The response to the removal of the campaign shows that the overwhelming majority of Queenslanders support the need for sexual health promotion, support the gay community and reject stigma and discrimination.”

Complaints about the ‘Rip & Roll’ campaign are still to be assessed by the Advertising Standards Bureau in the coming week.

http://www.qahc.org.au/rnri

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Reply #14 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 8:34am

<<<<<PEOPLE POWER!!!!!!>>>>>>

Adshel reinstates gay HIV awareness billboard ad after Michael O'Brien's Facebook campaign

UPDATE 6.30pm: The creator of a Facebook page slamming company's decision to scrap HIV awareness campaign is "elated" after the company decided to reinstate the ads.

The agency reinstated the billboards, saying the company was the target of a coordinated campaign by a Christian lobby group.

The backflip comes in the wake of a Facebook page, created yesterday by Michael O’Brien - one of the two men pictured - which by 5.30pm today had attracted a following of more than 40,000 supporters.

"It's fantastic, it feels a little weird," Mr O'Brien told news.com.au.

"It's a great example of people power, it shows we are living in 2011.

"I've had people from all walks of life come out in support for us. It's incredible."

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