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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 123136 Melbourne Gender:	Re: OOOPPPS Reply #75 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:49pm The lack of action shows that human short term greed far outweighs longterm concerns. There is no hope for this planet. Just feel glad that you were born in good times & don't worry about the catastrophe that awaits others.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: OOOPPPS Reply #76 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:50pm Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:49pm: The lack of action shows that human short term greed far outweighs longterm concerns. There is no hope for this planet. Just feel glad that you were born in good times & don't worry about the catastrophe that awaits others. Fearmongering will get you somewhere short term until people wake up.
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Reply #77 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:50pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:42pm:

And irrespective of personal belief in ACC, the fact still remains that the Carbon Tax idea is about regaining a budget surplus and won't have any effect on Co2 emissions..

The 'big polluters' will pass the costs on to the consumers, so they don't lose any profit, the Government will then compensate the consumers for the increased costs, so the consumers don't lose out either...

It's not even a case of 'robbing peter to pay paul'...it's 'robbing peter, to pay peter'.....all that happens will be the money moves around, and ends up back where it started..

How is it about regaining a budget surplus when it is a tax and spend tax?? There is no bottomline revenue benefit to the government with the carbon tax.

And what your saying is almost completey bogus. Sure some will people will be stubbon and just let it be as it is. Otherwise will realise they are getting free money from teh government and attempt to save some of it, thus reducing their electricity use. Ultimately it's a psychological mindset that has worked wonders in the past.

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Reply #78 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:52pm

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:45pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:43pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:36pm:

Carbon dioxide is a gas fool, not a component. OMG OMG Roll Eyes

Keep guessing on what I mean. I told ya, your comprehension is just not quite there!

hahahahaah! You really should do champagne comedy! You are beyond hilarious!

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In your own world lol. You dont even know the difference between fluids and components. OMG OMG hilarious Roll Eyes

You don't even know what I was talking about. Talk about comprehension!

LOL I guess it's true: as you get older those brain cells just start to fade away... unless of course you never had any to begin with! Sad

Poor progressivenuff. Sad

Champagne Comedy, every Wednesday. You should attend and perform. Just be yourself. People will find it hilarious.

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Reply #79 - May 31^st, 2011 at 4:00pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:52pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:45pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:43pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:36pm:

Carbon dioxide is a gas fool, not a component. OMG OMG Roll Eyes

Keep guessing on what I mean. I told ya, your comprehension is just not quite there!

hahahahaah! You really should do champagne comedy! You are beyond hilarious!

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In your own world lol. You dont even know the difference between fluids and components. OMG OMG hilarious Roll Eyes

You don't even know what I was talking about. Talk about comprehension!

LOL I guess it's true: as you get older those brain cells just start to fade away... unless of course you never had any to begin with! Sad

Poor progressivenuff. Sad

Champagne Comedy, every Wednesday. You should attend and perform. Just be yourself. People will find it hilarious.

So tell us how you can talk about a component, when the substance is a gas.

An oil filter is a ridgid component. CO2 is a dynamic 'component' if you must, of the environment. So lets look at it a different way just for you. Ridgid compared to dynamic is where your example is way out there, and wrong.

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Reply #80 - May 31^st, 2011 at 4:13pm

You should see the smoke bellowing out of my 2 fires right now…a sight for sore eyes. J

Just think of all those carbon emissions I have and will be expelling into the atmosphere over the next 20/30 years every winter.

You can kiss my hairy crack Juliar, cause I don’t need your rebates; I’ll just be burning all that glorious wood and pumping all that carbon Dioxide into the air.

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Reply #81 - May 31^st, 2011 at 4:19pm

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:00pm:

So tell us how you can talk about a component, when the substance is a gas.

An oil filter is a ridgid component. CO2 is a dynamic 'component' if you must, of the environment. So lets look at it a different way just for you. Ridgid compared to dynamic is where your example is way out there, and wrong.

Lets start again.

Think about Australia as a sub-system to the world system.

That should get you going for a bit. Draw out a rich picture and from there try to work out where I was going with it. With a bit of luck you might ... just might... be able to use that brain of yours to work it out. It's a stretch, but I'll prey for ya

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Reply #82 - May 31^st, 2011 at 4:20pm

culldav wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:13pm:

You should see the smoke bellowing out of my 2 fires right now…a sight for sore eyes. J

Just think of all those carbon emissions I have and will be expelling into the atmosphere over the next 20/30 years every winter.

You can kiss my hairy crack Juliar, cause I don’t need your rebates; I’ll just be burning all that glorious wood and pumping all that carbon Dioxide into the air.

...and once again this is why you are so backwards and a dumbass

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Reply #83 - May 31^st, 2011 at 4:25pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:19pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:00pm:

So tell us how you can talk about a component, when the substance is a gas.

An oil filter is a ridgid component. CO2 is a dynamic 'component' if you must, of the environment. So lets look at it a different way just for you. Ridgid compared to dynamic is where your example is way out there, and wrong.

Lets start again.

Think about Australia as a sub-system to the world system.

That should get you going for a bit. Draw out a rich picture and from there try to work out where I was going with it. With a bit of luck you might ... just might... be able to use that brain of yours to work it out. It's a stretch, but I'll prey for ya

Guessing game on the significance going through your head and no example to follow the significance in your head.

You need to spell out the significance according to you, and an example of another system to follow its significance.

The oil filter ridgidnous just want cut it.

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Reply #84 - May 31^st, 2011 at 4:29pm

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:25pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:19pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:00pm:

So tell us how you can talk about a component, when the substance is a gas.

An oil filter is a ridgid component. CO2 is a dynamic 'component' if you must, of the environment. So lets look at it a different way just for you. Ridgid compared to dynamic is where your example is way out there, and wrong.

Lets start again.

Think about Australia as a sub-system to the world system.

That should get you going for a bit. Draw out a rich picture and from there try to work out where I was going with it. With a bit of luck you might ... just might... be able to use that brain of yours to work it out. It's a stretch, but I'll prey for ya

Guessing game on the significance going through your head and no example to follow the significance in your head.

You need to spell out the significance according to you, and an example of another system to follow its significance.

The oil filter ridgidnous just want cut it.

I can't help it if you misunderstand everything. I can't speak in baby tongue and I don't believe in mothering someone.

Perhaps you should go through the replies from me BEFORE you started to try and guess, and draw out a braindump for yourself? That should help

HINT: Understand that an oil filter analogy had nothing do with the oil, but rather what happens when even the smallest part of a bigger problem breaks down. Now, think about Australia as a sub-system to the world.

You aren't really a network engineer are you. Why lie for?

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Reply #85 - May 31^st, 2011 at 4:32pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:29pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:25pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:19pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:00pm:

So tell us how you can talk about a component, when the substance is a gas.

An oil filter is a ridgid component. CO2 is a dynamic 'component' if you must, of the environment. So lets look at it a different way just for you. Ridgid compared to dynamic is where your example is way out there, and wrong.

Lets start again.

Think about Australia as a sub-system to the world system.

That should get you going for a bit. Draw out a rich picture and from there try to work out where I was going with it. With a bit of luck you might ... just might... be able to use that brain of yours to work it out. It's a stretch, but I'll prey for ya

Guessing game on the significance going through your head and no example to follow the significance in your head.

You need to spell out the significance according to you, and an example of another system to follow its significance.

The oil filter ridgidnous just want cut it.

I can't help it if you misunderstand everything. I can't speak in baby tongue and I don't believe in mothering someone.

Perhaps you should go through the threads from me BEFORE you started to try and guess, and draw out a braindump for yourself? That should help

A non-answer is still a non-answer no matter the spin.

All you are talking about is co-operation and components. You cant give examples on a gas as if to talk about countries co-operations. You are in the wrong debate with me if you want me to do the guess work.

You need to stick with the 'what action and co-opertation do we do' crowd.

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Reply #87 - May 31^st, 2011 at 4:33pm

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:32pm:

A non-answer is still a non-answer no matter the spin.

All you are talking about is co-operation and components. You cant give examples on a gas as if to talk about countries co-operations. You are in the wrong debate with me if you want me to do the guess work.

You need to stick with the 'what action and co-opertation do we do' crowd.

It's more fun to be in your crowd considering there are literally only a handful of you "geniuses" left. Read the edit on my reply. And from there, like I said, formulate a braindump and get your brain functioning! Like I said, I'm not about to baby you.

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Reply #88 - May 31^st, 2011 at 4:34pm

culldav wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:32pm:

What’s the matter Alevine “fart in the wind” I’m only reducing the intellectual parameters of the conversation to something you can keep up with… Grin

You reduce intellectual parameters of this forum by just logging in.

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Isn't it time to go collect those trolleys? Ey, useless country bumpkin?

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Reply #89 - May 31^st, 2011 at 4:36pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:33pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 4:32pm:

A non-answer is still a non-answer no matter the spin.

All you are talking about is co-operation and components. You cant give examples on a gas as if to talk about countries co-operations. You are in the wrong debate with me if you want me to do the guess work.

You need to stick with the 'what action and co-opertation do we do' crowd.

It's more fun to be in your crowd considering there are literally only a handful of you "geniuses" left. Read the edit on my reply. And from there, like I said, formulate a braindump and get your brain functioning! Like I said, I'm not about to baby you.

I already gave you the answer 2 times over for your ridgid stupid example of an oil filter.

We are talking of a gas, therefore you have to have examples of dynamic fluids/gases. What the hell does a ridgid component have to do with anything in the CO2 debate.

Stick to being a mushroom fearmonger and the 'what do we do' crowd.

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