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Reply #60 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:02pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 2:56pm:

culldav wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 2:47pm:

I know you are only a trolley collector, but the mathematics is not faulty; ask any year 9 student.

Sorry sweetheart, but in this instance you are the dumb-arse; and you prove the point “fart-in-the-wind” by your constantly asinine comments that not ALL refugees and migrants that are allowed into Australia are intelligent.

I realise that you are a little backwards and completey obsolete of any individual thought, but I hope you have some knowledge about how systems work. Understanding this will hopefully allow you to realise that the world in itself is one huge organisational system, and for it to function properly all the sub-systems, regardless of their size, should do so too.

Further to this, saying that Australia's 1.4% is insignificant leaves insult on Australia for suggesting the country has no influence in world affairs what so ever and is just some dirt on the bottom of the world's shoe.

This so called sub-system is 1.4% of 3% total global carbon dioxide output.

Then you want to cut 5% of the 1.4%, that is 1.4% of what is 3% of total global carbon output. How stupid can you be to call that a sub-system. That is not a sub-system, it is statistically insignificant.

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Reply #61 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:03pm

cods wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 2:42pm:

culldav wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 12:06pm:

The most unintelligent, dumb-arse person would understand the basic mathematics; that reducing 0.004% of 1.4% carbon emissions on a global scale, will not reduce the planets temperature by even 0.000001 degree.

Has anyone actually heard Gillard say whether this is a carbon dioxide tax or a carbon monoxide tax or a tax on both?

She is such a slimy maggot, that you need to peg her down on the details, but then she lies her way out of it.

the only true way to lower our carbon emmissions

is to close down all mining...

will she do it... nup she thinks taxing all 22million of us will do something... how bloody infantile is that thinking...

The thing is Cods, Bob and his bitch have conned the frightened and stupid people into believing this carbon tax is the best thing since sliced bread, and they have fallen for it hook, line and sinker without even questioning the mathematics or the rationale behind the tax.

They must be clapping their hands with glee at the ease in which they have conned some of the Australian people into believing that by reducing carbon emissions of 0.0004% of a total of 1.4% over the next 18 years that will reduce global temperatures by an incredible 0.000001% will actually help save the planet.

The intellectually sad thing about all this is that some individuals cannot comprehend the difference between the con-job and the reality of what must happen.

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Reply #62 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:05pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 2:38pm:

culldav wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 1:32pm:

Unfortunately, Australians are getting an international reputation of being rather backward and being dumb-arses. I believe the current international analogy of Aussies is called: “the last crumb left of the table.”

You would have to be mentally challenged to believe that reducing carbon dioxide/monoxide emissions of 0.004% of a total 1.4% on a planetary scale is going to significantly reduce global warming.

When in fact these paltry emission reductions over the next 18 years won’t even reduce global warming on a planetary scale by 0.00001 degree.

Are some of you people that stupid and frightened that you would believe in anything anyone tells you, because the mathematics Gillard is throwing at you doesn’t add up.

You people are being conned: even if ALL Australia stopped ALL carbon emissions 1.4% tomorrow, the reduction in planetary global warming would only be reduced by 0.0078 degrees.

So if bring in this new carbon tax is not going to reduce global warming by anything more than 0.00001 degree over the next 18 years, then what are we bringing it in?

Don’t we have a Government that can offer a better alternative than reducing the planets temperature by 0.00001 degree over the next 18 years?

And this type of thinking is exactly WHY you give Australia an international reputation for being backwards and full of dumb asses.

Actually, what gives Australia that reputation is the Government and some of the people thinking that a Carbon Tax will affect our emissions at all, and that any changes to our emissions will even be noticeable in world Co2 levels...

I heard a quote on the radio the other day from a climate scientist..

He said that "Australia could sink beneath the ocean, and it wouldn't make any difference to Co2 levels"..

And no, we don't have all that much influence on World affairs....Almost half the people in the world don't even know where Australia IS, or the name of our capital city..

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Reply #63 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:05pm

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:02pm:

This so called sub-system is 1.4% of 3% total carbon dioxide output.

Then you want to cut 5% of the 1.4% of the 3% of total carbon output. How stupid can you be to call that a sub-system. That is not a sub-system, it is statistically insignificant.

Interesting. An oil filter in a car is 0.3% of all of its components, yet without it the car can easily break down.

And Australia is a sub-system within the world's organisational system. As a "network engineer" or so you claim, I would've thought you can work that one out. Too bad I was expecting way too much from you Sad

I apologise.

Anyway, why are we having this discussion? When will you realise that part of the debate is over? We've moved on man! Let's talk about WHAT TYPE OF ACTION TO TAKE: DIRECT OR CARBON TAX?

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You silly old bugger.

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Reply #64 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:08pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:05pm:

Actually, what gives Australia that reputation is the Government and some of the people thinking that a Carbon Tax will affect our emissions at all, and that any changes to our emissions will even be noticeable in world Co2 levels...

I heard a quote on the radio the other day from a climate scientist..

He said that "Australia could sink beneath the ocean, and it wouldn't make any difference to Co2 levels"..

No one with at least half a brain thinks that a carbon tax in Australia will bring down world emissions on its own, or was designed to bring down world emissions, as a whole, on its own. But its a step forward for us in contributing to the world and standing side by side with other countries. Not only that, but despite what people may think, we as a nation can be influential, especially in our region. Us doing something means it's a closer step towards getting others to do something. And so on.

And this is where the debate gets so completely skewed by the nuff nuff denialists who have NO UNDERSTANDING apart from their own greed. And it is greed. Whether you like it or not.

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Reply #65 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:08pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:05pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:02pm:

This so called sub-system is 1.4% of 3% total carbon dioxide output.

Then you want to cut 5% of the 1.4% of the 3% of total carbon output. How stupid can you be to call that a sub-system. That is not a sub-system, it is statistically insignificant.

Interesting. An oil filter in a car is 0.3% of all of its components, yet without it the car can easily break down.

And Australia is a sub-system within the world's organisational system. As a "network engineer" or so you claim, I would've thought you can work that one out. Too bad I was expecting way too much from you Sad

I apologise.

Anyway, why are we having this discussion? When will you realise that part of the debate is over? We've moved on man! Let's talk about WHAT TYPE OF ACTION TO TAKE: DIRECT OR CARBON TAX?

Grin

You silly old bugger.

That is a component and is significant. Nice try but come again.

What you should have talked about, is the fluid going through the oil filter. Lose 3% of the fluid, gain 3% of the fluid. Wow nothing happens. That is because 3% can best be used as an insignificant rate of error.

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Reply #66 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:10pm

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:08pm:

That is a component and is significant. Nice try but come again.

Going back to nonsensical 1 liners? ok.

I enjoy seeing how it seems you now must have the final word, and yet each time you try and do it somehow it just shows how dumb and uninformed you really are. Congrats.

Want to try again? Feel free.

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Reply #67 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:12pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:10pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:08pm:

That is a component and is significant. Nice try but come again.

Going back to nonsensical 1 liners? ok.

I enjoy seeing how it seems you now must have the final word, and yet each time you try and do it somehow it just shows how dumb and uninformed you really are. Congrats.

Want to try again? Feel free.

Thank you. I see you cant work it out. Comparing a component to a dynamic fluid, is rather silly.

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Reply #68 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:19pm

Yes. It will be a fine contribution by Australia to reduce it carbon foot print by 0.0004% which will reduce the planets global warming by 0.00001 degree over the next 18 years.

I’m sure the history books will record this much anticipated first step by Australia with as much enthusiasm as watching a goat shyte grapes.

More likely the history books will ask why we introduced a carbon tax when it wasn’t going to solve a problem.

LOL LOL LOL

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Reply #70 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:31pm

culldav wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:19pm:

Yes. It will be a fine contribution by Australia to reduce it carbon foot print by 0.0004% which will reduce the planets global warming by 0.00001 degree over the next 18 years.

I’m sure the history books will record this much anticipated first step by Australia with as much enthusiasm as watching a goat shyte grapes.

More likely the history books will ask why we introduced a carbon tax when it wasn’t going to solve a problem.

LOL LOL LOL

Wow, talk about a tendency to simply repeat without even reading what anyone says. Who's brainwashed now?

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Reply #71 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:36pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:30pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:12pm:

Thank you. I see you cant work it out. Comparing a component to a dynamic fluid, is rather silly.

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG Hilarious! Mate, you need to do champagne comedy!

Carbon dioxide is a gas fool, not a component. OMG OMG Roll Eyes

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Reply #72 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:42pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:08pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:05pm:

Actually, what gives Australia that reputation is the Government and some of the people thinking that a Carbon Tax will affect our emissions at all, and that any changes to our emissions will even be noticeable in world Co2 levels...

I heard a quote on the radio the other day from a climate scientist..

He said that "Australia could sink beneath the ocean, and it wouldn't make any difference to Co2 levels"..

No one with at least half a brain thinks that a carbon tax in Australia will bring down world emissions on its own, or was designed to bring down world emissions, as a whole, on its own. But its a step forward for us in contributing to the world and standing side by side with other countries. Not only that, but despite what people may think, we as a nation can be influential, especially in our region. Us doing something means it's a closer step towards getting others to do something. And so on.

And this is where the debate gets so completely skewed by the nuff nuff denialists who have NO UNDERSTANDING apart from their own greed. And it is greed. Whether you like it or not.

And irrespective of personal belief in ACC, the fact still remains that the Carbon Tax idea is about regaining a budget surplus and won't have any effect on Co2 emissions..

The 'big polluters' will pass the costs on to the consumers, so they don't lose any profit, the Government will then compensate the consumers for the increased costs, so the consumers don't lose out either...

It's not even a case of 'robbing peter to pay paul'...it's 'robbing peter, to pay peter'.....all that happens will be the money moves around, and ends up back where it started..

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Reply #74 - May 31^st, 2011 at 3:45pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:43pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 31^st, 2011 at 3:36pm:

Carbon dioxide is a gas fool, not a component. OMG OMG Roll Eyes

Keep guessing on what I mean. I told ya, your comprehension is just not quite there!

hahahahaah! You really should do champagne comedy! You are beyond hilarious!

Grin

In your own world lol. You dont even know the difference between fluids and components. OMG OMG hilarious Roll Eyes

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