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Why News Ltd readers have distorted view
May 25th, 2011 at 2:32pm
 
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GP Super Clinics: ludicrous “$450 per visit” claim left uncountered
May 24, 2011 – 2:37 pm, by Jeremy Sear  
If you relied on the News Ltd coverage of the Super Health Clinics data tabled in parliament last week, you might well have come out of it with the distinct (but dodgy) impression that the government was paying absolutely insane amounts of money for every visit:
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JULIA Gillard’s GP super clinics are under fire for bloating the standard cost of a visit to the doctor.

The standard cost has blown out by an estimated $450 a consultation.[/indent]


Really? Well, that’s what the Opposition claims:

Liberal MP Andrew Southcott, a former doctor, said a visit to a GP Super Clinic would always cost taxpayers more.

[indent]“After more than three years, the taxpayer contribution to a visit to a GP Super Clinic is more than $450 per visit on top of Medicare,” Mr Southcott said. “The cost to the taxpayer of a visit to a GP Super Clinic will always be higher than the cost of a visit to a local medical centre or family practice. They have the same Medicare cost structures except that with the GP Super Clinics the buildings have been taxpayer funded.”[/indent]

So how’d they come up with that figure?

[indent]But the Gillard Government has announced plans to build more, confirming they have already spent $127 million on capital works.

According to data tabled in Parliament in response to MPs’ questions, the GP Super Clinics provided 280,000 services as at the end of January, costing taxpayers an estimated $450 for each visit, on top of the standard Medicare fee.
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Oh, I see. In the same way as a month after you move into your new $400k house, it’s already cost you MORE THAN TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY.

Except of course it hasn’t, because the $400k cost is spread over the thirty or more years you live in it, minus the value when you sell it, and you’re not $10k a day worse off at all.

Likewise the cost “per visit” to these clinics now is not the total cost of the asset divided by the number of visits so far, given that those assets still exist and still have most of their value. The number of visits continues to increase whilst the $127 million was of course a one-off expense. And yet I don’t expect these papers are going to publish a story next year, after another 280,000 visits, saying how well the Government has done, miraculously HALVING the cost per visit, with the cost per visit continuing to fall, the geniuses.

Basically, the figure is misleading and, while I expect little more from the Opposition, which thinks its job is to throw misleading muck around and hope some of it sticks, I do expect the newspaper to treat its readers with a little respect and explain what’s wrong with that calculation – rather than trumpeting it in the headline and the lead-in text, with no qualification.

After 12 paragraphs bashing it without a sentence pointing out the counterargument to the Opposition’s claim, this is the only quote from the Government that got published:

[indent]A spokeswoman for Health Minister Nicola Roxon said: “The GP Super Clinics program is an investment in providing quality health services into the future.”[/indent]

Well, that in no way addresses the point. Is that really all they said?

Samantha Maiden tells Crikey that there was in fact a response from Ms Roxon’s office that did more specifically address the $450 figure, but it was cut, presumably for length.

We’re not alleging any kind of conspiracy here, but we’d suggest that the absence of that critical response seriously undermines the entire story, and leaves readers with a very inaccurate impression of the program and its costs. (That the inaccurate impression is a negative for the Government is, we’re sure, a coincidence.) Which part of the system broke down here, we have no idea – but we’d suggest there’s definitely a problem, and it deserves consideration by those at each step of the process, from the journalist, to the subeditor, to the editor. Someone decided that the other side’s response to the figure was not critical to the story: we think they were clearly wrong, and should be careful to make a different, a fairer, decision next time.

And it’s one further reason – in addition to the importance of not leaving a contentious statement hanging without response – for journalists to avoid leaving the counter-argument to the very end of their reports, where it’s liable to be the first thing cut.

Because the upshot of this uncorrected, unbalanced piece as published, is that readers of the News Ltd papers that ran it are left with a highly distorted view of reality on this subject. And that can’t be good for our national debate.
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Reply #1 - May 25th, 2011 at 2:34pm
 
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Reply #2 - May 25th, 2011 at 2:40pm
 
Something screwy with your message. Try to fix it up so we can see what sought of a rant you are having.
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Reply #3 - May 25th, 2011 at 3:06pm
 
THERE MUST BE A HELLUVA LOT OF DISTORTED VIEWS THEN!
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Reply #4 - May 25th, 2011 at 3:13pm
 
Rudd and the Murdoch Press

Sept. 2009

When News Limited threw its considerable resources behind what became known as the ‘Utegate affair’, Rudd cracked.

The accusation that he had given special favours to the car-dealer John Grant in return for – of all things – a beaten-up truck, was simply unacceptable and, when the email on which the charge was based was proved to be a forgery, he hit back.

Asked during a press conference for his reaction by Matthew Franklin, who had helped to drive the story in the Australian, Rudd responded in terms rather more measured than he had been using in private:



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I think, what a number of people have said to me, Matthew, around the place is where have we kind of got to, when you have major papers like the Daily Telegraph, the Courier-Mail and the Adelaide Advertiser running on their front page that the prime minister of the country is corrupt, and then secondly the editors it seems not having sighted any original document in terms of this email, and thirdly, it turns out that that email is a forgery, I would have thought a few people would want to know how all that happened, what sort of journalistic checks were put in place for that to be the case, or is it simply being sort of airbrushed from history?

I think the other thing which sort of comes up is, I mean, the usual accusations when political leaders respond to factually inaccurate reporting in the media, in this case in those papers that I referred to, is to accuse the political leaders in question of having some sort of glass jaw. It may simply be that what people want is just some basic answers as to how that might have happened, that’s a pretty basic thing.

The other thing I saw the chief executive of your own news organisation do yesterday was, in responding to this, indicate that somehow the deputy prime minister was raising these matters because she’d felt set upon by your newspaper over the coverage of the Building the Education Revolution stuff. Well, all’s fair in love and war, I mean, you guys will take whatever editorial position you want on the Building the Education Revolution and that’s been the case






Rudd described this treatment of Gillard as “journalistic retaliation”. In other words, it had gone beyond Utegate: Rudd now saw it as a concerted campaign.


Much more ...

http://www.themonthly.com.au/nation-reviewed-mungo-maccallum-comment-rudd-and-mu...

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Reply #5 - May 25th, 2011 at 5:31pm
 
"CRIKEY'!
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Reply #6 - May 25th, 2011 at 5:48pm
 
Who reads newspapers anymore?
We only use newspaper to wrap cat sh!t in before putting it in the bin  Cheesy
Oh before anyone asks..we use the free local paper  Tongue
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Reply #7 - May 25th, 2011 at 5:50pm
 
adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2011 at 5:48pm:
Who reads newspapers anymore?
We only use newspaper to wrap cat sh!t in before putting it in the bin  Cheesy
Oh before anyone asks..we use the free local paper  Tongue



ahhh so THAT'S why do you don't know your ass from your elbow.
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Reply #8 - May 25th, 2011 at 5:57pm
 
I should say..the missus or the housekeeper wraps the cat sh!t in newspaper..you wont catch me doing it  Tongue
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Reply #9 - May 25th, 2011 at 6:05pm
 
adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2011 at 5:57pm:
I should say..the missus or the housekeeper wraps the cat sh!t in newspaper..you wont catch me doing it  Tongue



in between flying backwards and forwards to Singapore..such a tough life.
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Reply #10 - May 25th, 2011 at 6:06pm
 
i read the paper but usually if im interested in something or want to know further i will look it up from other sources to verify it

i also read blogs (good blogs not the loony ones) like steve sailer he is so good
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Reply #11 - May 25th, 2011 at 6:12pm
 
cods wrote on May 25th, 2011 at 6:05pm:
adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2011 at 5:57pm:
I should say..the missus or the housekeeper wraps the cat sh!t in newspaper..you wont catch me doing it  Tongue



in between flying backwards and forwards to Singapore..such a tough life.


Do those fantasy flights hit imaginary air pockets, just when you are freshening up your fictional lipstick?
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Reply #12 - May 26th, 2011 at 7:00pm
 
Misleadenfreude
May 26, 2011 – 3:56 pm, by Jeremy Sear
 
I think the Herald Sun is proud of these results of online polling of its readers:

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Anyone want to coin a word for the bittersweet sentiment of cheerful satisfaction in your ability to manipulate your customers into embarrassing ignorance and shortsightedness? There’s probably a clunky compound German word like schadenfreude, but it’d be handy to have a more elegant construction.
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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11th, 2011 at 11:23am:
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Reply #13 - May 26th, 2011 at 7:09pm
 
THE RIGHT represent overseas investors!

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Reply #14 - May 26th, 2011 at 7:18pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 26th, 2011 at 7:09pm:
THE RIGHT represent overseas investors!



As long as they're not green tech investors!
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