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Re: Greens backdown on Carbon price
Reply #15 - May 25^th, 2011 at 5:02pm

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via astro-surf: Who is actually coordinating this shadowy conspiracy and for what end?

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via astro-surf: In other words you can't actually justify your lies. I thought as much....

"...Who is actually coordinating this shadowy conspiracy and for what end?..." ....Oh, dear.. Huh

astro-surf invents a "shadowy conspiracy" then gets upset with me when ah caint tell em anything about it.. Wink

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Re: Greens backdown on Carbon price
Reply #16 - May 25^th, 2011 at 5:18pm

adelcrow wrote on May 25^th, 2011 at 3:59pm:

Politics is all about negotiation and compromise...the Greens have just shown they are more responsible than Black Abbott and his extremist faction within the Coalition.

I am amazed you cant see through this whole thing... they keep showing a bit more of this puzzle and still you dont get it..

3 years ago we had untill 2013....now in the year 2011 we have a decade... Britian has untill 2050...

sounds to me like these TAX fiends havent got their act together and come up with a simple solution to bamboozel us all with..

what a laugh but ut shows how easily the left are to be lead down this path....

Booby brought Al Gore to our shores to show us the right way... we had to do something beofre this world stopped... because everything that was happening right now was human caused... so we humans have to stop it...

no price was high enough......lol... that was when he wasnt up there with the full force of responsibility staring him in the face...

now he is in the glow of "Power" it is starting to wear a bit thin by the looks of things..

and gues what he is reducing his price... on saving the planet.... how can that be??????????????

we are going to be Taxed to hell and back whilst he sits back and watches this govt flog our coal and gas and everything else we have to sell thats ruining the planet and causing CLIMATE CHANGE>.. remembers... the biggest moral challenge of our times.????

oh gawd.... hes reduced his price... I dont believe it...what a hypocrite....

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Re: Greens backdown on Carbon price
Reply #17 - May 25^th, 2011 at 5:21pm

cods wrote on May 25^th, 2011 at 5:18pm:

adelcrow wrote on May 25^th, 2011 at 3:59pm:

Politics is all about negotiation and compromise...the Greens have just shown they are more responsible than Black Abbott and his extremist faction within the Coalition.

I am amazed you cant see through this whole thing... they keep showing a bit more of this puzzle and still you dont get it..

3 years ago we had untill 2013....now in the year 2011 we have a decade... Britian has untill 2050...

sounds to me like these TAX fiends havent got their act together and come up with a simple solution to bamboozel us all with..

what a laugh but ut shows how easily the left are to be lead down this path....

Booby brought Al Gore to our shores to show us the right way... we had to do something beofre this world stopped... because everything that was happening right now was human caused... so we humans have to stop it...

no price was high enough......lol... that was when he wasnt up there with the full force of responsibility staring him in the face...

now he is in the glow of "Power" it is starting to wear a bit thin by the looks of things..

and gues what he is reducing his price... on saving the planet.... how can that be??????????????

we are going to be Taxed to hell and back whilst he sits back and watches this govt flog our coal and gas and everything else we have to sell thats ruining the planet and causing CLIMATE CHANGE>.. remembers... the biggest moral challenge of our times.????

oh gawd.... hes reduced his price... I dont believe it...what a hypocrite....

Dont forget UK 2050 for 50% of 1990 levels.

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Re: Greens backdown on Carbon price
Reply #18 - May 25^th, 2011 at 5:23pm

Flying Binghi wrote on May 25^th, 2011 at 5:02pm:

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via astro-surf: Who is actually coordinating this shadowy conspiracy and for what end?

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via astro-surf: In other words you can't actually justify your lies. I thought as much....

"...Who is actually coordinating this shadowy conspiracy and for what end?..." ....Oh, dear.. Huh

astro-surf invents a "shadowy conspiracy" then gets upset with me when ah caint tell em anything about it..

So you're just a plain old liar with an agenda against the Greens, right?

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Greens backdown on Carbon price Reply #19 - May 25^th, 2011 at 5:27pm Right wing extremists who only know how to complain and wreck or Green progressive moderates who negotiate and compromise..I know where my votes going
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Greens backdown on Carbon price Reply #20 - May 25^th, 2011 at 5:49pm adelcrow wrote on May 25^th, 2011 at 3:59pm: Politics is all about negotiation and compromise...the Greens have just shown they are more responsible than Black Abbott and his extremist faction within the Coalition. You just equated the Greens with compromise and negotiation! you made my day with a joke like that!
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Re: Greens backdown on Carbon price
Reply #21 - May 25^th, 2011 at 6:20pm

adelcrow wrote on May 25^th, 2011 at 5:27pm:

Right wing extremists who only know how to complain and wreck or Green progressive moderates who negotiate and compromise..I know where my votes going Tongue

I would have thought ..

THE BIGGEST MORAL CHALLENGE OF OUR TIMES..

was NON NEGOTIABLE....

sorry but to start chipping away at something that

WAS PANIC in the street a few brief months ago....

and we are now going to be TAXED into oblivion..

and you say its okay to lower the price... how bloody convenient.

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Flying Binghi Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 252 Australia Gender:	Re: Greens backdown on Carbon price Reply #22 - May 25^th, 2011 at 6:36pm . Quote: via astro-surf: So you're just a plain old liar with an agenda against the Greens, right? Whoa, astro-surf. Lets not get to far out in the paddock. Tell me more about this "shadowy conspiracy" yer introduced to the thread.. .
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Re: Greens backdown on Carbon price
Reply #24 - May 25^th, 2011 at 6:49pm

astro_surf wrote on May 25^th, 2011 at 2:19pm:

Flying Binghi wrote on May 25^th, 2011 at 2:15pm:

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via astro-surf: But you said they are "useful idiots", and a useful idiot by very definition is an agent for someone else. So who? Surely, if you're making the accusation, you can back it up with something?

Excellent observation there astro-surf.

As it is all just apparently a "shadowy conspiracy" i geuss i can offer only small hints. Dont want to be accused of giving the game away.. Huh

Hint 1/ - Who makes money from carbon trading ?

Fer one it aint Bob Brown... pure as the driven snow he is.. Wink

...or is that driving in a snow cloud... on or the other..

So who? Enough with the vaguely cryptic insinuations, either put your money where your mouth is and tyell us who is coordinating this conspiracy or STFU with your woo woo conspiracy theory BS.

CAN'T YOU LET HIM ENJOY ANOTHER DOZEN SESSIONS ON THE CRACK TO DEAL WITH ALL THAT?!!? Shocked

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Greens backdown on Carbon price Reply #25 - May 25^th, 2011 at 7:52pm What carbon price? It was a hysterical allegation from the Liberals asnd their advertisers. the ALP certainly reject that.
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Re: Greens backdown on Carbon price
Reply #26 - May 25^th, 2011 at 8:04pm

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via Deathridesahorse: CAN'T YOU LET HIM ENJOY ANOTHER DOZEN SESSIONS ON THE CRACK TO DEAL WITH ALL THAT?!!?

Is that what astro-surf is on. I did wonder about the call-sign.. Wink

I'm still wondering about the "woo woo conspiracy theory" though.. Huh

............. Grin

...meanwhile, what do I see, "agent" Al Gore the carbon trader scam king in full view. The boats, several houses and near daily private jet trips all in public view and all paid fer by them carbon hysteria tiths he's received. Al Gore a carbon trading true believer.

The Australian Greens - Al Gores useful idiots.. Wink

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Re: Greens backdown on Carbon price
Reply #27 - May 26^th, 2011 at 5:15pm

I think the problem that we seem to have on here with so many people is that they either live now or have grown up completely sheltered from how difficult life is and running a budget.

Those people tend to then think that their bubble if you like, of friends and work colleagues are the 'norm' and that everyone lives like they do.

The reality, for so many of us, is that people do live quite differently, run tight budgets, have to make sacrifices and have debt, car loans, mortgages etc.

Now for the cost of living to increase across the board with a carbon tax - it is just not supportable and those who think it is a good idea don't seem to understand the strain people are under these days.

To hit people with a tax to fix climate change is one thing - to hit people with a tax which everyone admits will do nothing for climate change is just idiocy.

We don't need a carbon tax, and if you look at the pollings, we don't want a carbon tax.

I would like people to realize, particularly those who have led an easy life bankrolled by their parents and in cruise mode, to realize that there are a lot of people not able to sit with the luxury that they take for granted and who will be badly affected by this disastrous policy.

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Re: Greens backdown on Carbon price
Reply #28 - May 26^th, 2011 at 10:44pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 26^th, 2011 at 5:15pm:

I think the problem that we seem to have on here with so many people is that they either live now or have grown up completely sheltered from how difficult life is and running a budget.

Those people tend to then think that their bubble if you like, of friends and work colleagues are the 'norm' and that everyone lives like they do.

The reality, for so many of us, is that people do live quite differently, run tight budgets, have to make sacrifices and have debt, car loans, mortgages etc.

Now for the cost of living to increase across the board with a carbon tax - it is just not supportable and those who think it is a good idea don't seem to understand the strain people are under these days.

To hit people with a tax to fix climate change is one thing - to hit people with a tax which everyone admits will do nothing for climate change is just idiocy.

We don't need a carbon tax, and if you look at the pollings, we don't want a carbon tax.

I would like people to realize, particularly those who have led an easy life bankrolled by their parents and in cruise mode, to realize that there are a lot of people not able to sit with the luxury that they take for granted and who will be badly affected by this disastrous policy.

In the end, the ultimate goal (you will have to decide what you think it is, this is my interpretation) is to have it so people cant afford the extras. The people on budgets will be the new poor, I mean real poor. The middle class will be the working poor and the rich will be well off. The rich of the rich will go on as if nothing happened.

This all boils down to environmentalism and the ultimate goal of environmentalism, is what you will get out of the climate change scam. They couldnt do it by protesting, yelling or jumping in front of a bull dozer, but they will get to their goal with climate change.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Greens backdown on Carbon price Reply #29 - May 26^th, 2011 at 11:21pm adelcrow wrote on May 25^th, 2011 at 5:27pm: Green progressive moderates who negotiate and compromise
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