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mavisdavis Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1512	Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight Reply #90 - May 21^st, 2011 at 2:27pm Sir lastnail wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 1:55pm: mavisdavis wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 1:47pm: that one went right across the top of your head LN. read what he wrote again properly. he is not talking about free as in the financial sense. Read what he wrote, on "the other thread", or this one??
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Reply #91 - May 21^st, 2011 at 2:52pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 2:18pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 1:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 6:27pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 6:25pm:

neither is a magnet, you ignoramus.

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a magnet is FREE ENERGY

do you deny this?

absolutely. in fact, it is a fundamental law of physics that energy is NEVER free. it has to come from somewhere. Do you even KNOW any science, dimwit?

free as in not paying for it. why do you have to complicate issues with your drivel Sad

'free;' is not just an economic term as you'd know if you ever went to university. in scientific terms energy is NOT 'free'. it comes at a cost. sunlight is not 'free'. it comes at the cost of the loss of mass in the sun. I know this 'scientific stuff' goes over your head, hangnail, but try and keep up!

as usual you are desperate to win any argument by creating a straw man.

at the end of the day this debate is about renewable energy that you don't have to keep paying for !! As far as the consumer is concerned it is free because they don't get a bill in the mail for it. The 1st law of thermo dynamics is not relevant here unless you are worried about what is going to happen in 3 billion years time which i suppose for someone with a gold pass to heaven and eternal life would be worried Wink

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Reply #92 - May 21^st, 2011 at 3:49pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 2:52pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 2:18pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 1:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 6:27pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 6:25pm:

neither is a magnet, you ignoramus.

__________

a magnet is FREE ENERGY

do you deny this?

absolutely. in fact, it is a fundamental law of physics that energy is NEVER free. it has to come from somewhere. Do you even KNOW any science, dimwit?

free as in not paying for it. why do you have to complicate issues with your drivel Sad

'free;' is not just an economic term as you'd know if you ever went to university. in scientific terms energy is NOT 'free'. it comes at a cost. sunlight is not 'free'. it comes at the cost of the loss of mass in the sun. I know this 'scientific stuff' goes over your head, hangnail, but try and keep up!

as usual you are desperate to win any argument by creating a straw man.

at the end of the day this debate is about renewable energy that you don't have to keep paying for !! As far as the consumer is concerned it is free because they don't get a bill in the mail for it. The 1st law of thermo dynamics is not relevant here unless you are worried about what is going to happen in 3 billion years time which i suppose for someone with a gold pass to heaven and eternal life would be worried Wink

you are such a transparent idiot! you have recognised the validity of my argument by failing to address it! even you see the unlikelihood of 90% efficiency in solar PV!

even by your low standards your response has been LAME!

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Reply #93 - May 21^st, 2011 at 5:28pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 3:49pm:

you are such a transparent idiot! you have recognised the validity of my argument by failing to address it! even you see the unlikelihood of 90% efficiency in solar PV!

even by your low standards your response has been LAME!

what argument ?? Nobody is claiming anything about the invention and until the details are known nor should you speculate anything about it. You're in no position to critique the idea because you don't have proper qualifications in the area. Just look at your lame response to the rising cost of fossil fools !! "Go get another job or a payrise to make up the difference." What a f,cken jerk you are.

And why do you conveniently ignore the thread about the Vatican's stance on climate change ??

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After assembling a panel of experts on climate change, the Vatican’s Pontifical Academy of Science released a report strongly urging all countries of the world to take three crucial steps in addressing the upcoming climate crisis, including:

That we reduce worldwide carbon dioxide emissions without delay, reduce the concentrations of warming air pollutants (dark soot, methane, lower atmosphere ozone, and hydrofluorocarbons) by as much as 50 percent, and prepare to adapt to the climatic changes that society will be unable to mitigate.

The report also states:

We call on all people and nations to recognise the serious and potentially irreversible impacts of global warming caused by the anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases and other pollutants, and by changes in forests, wetlands, grasslands, and other land uses. We appeal to all nations to develop and implement, without delay, effective and fair policies to reduce the causes and impacts of climate change on communities and ecosystems, including mountain glaciers and their watersheds, aware that we all live in the same home. By acting now, in the spirit of common but differentiated responsibility, we accept our duty to one another and to the stewardship of a planet blessed with the gift of life.

We are committed to ensuring that all inhabitants of this planet receive their daily bread, fresh air to breathe and clean water to drink as we are aware that, if we want justice and peace, we must protect the habitat that sustains us. The believers among us ask God to grant us this wish.

While this could make for some interesting new political alignments stateside if the call is heeded, we’ll have to wait and see if having the Vatican’s seal of approval makes a dent in the minds of skeptics or not. Perhaps a nun with a ruler would give it more bite.

Link -
http://holykaw.alltop.com/vatican-issues-climate-change-warning
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Well LongWeakend, the Pope said it, so that must now make you a Climate Change believer?

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Reply #94 - May 21^st, 2011 at 8:42pm

Good onya LastNail. Stick to your guns. Can see why Bobby supports your posts a lot.

Solar/Wind/Water Energy will always prevail and just get better.
Some prefer a glass of Water to combat dehydration, while others need a Red Bull and all of its 'extras' for god knows why ...a heart palpitation and then a headache later??

I love it when a world goes into 'adversity' like the USA with its Economy (like Europe had with its Military and Australia has with its Sport Wink

) ...all the great improvements that are NEEDED and not wanted are suddently brought to the front of the cue.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121074 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight Reply #95 - May 22^nd, 2011 at 12:51am Jas. Quote: Good onya LastNail. Stick to your guns. Can see why Bobby supports your posts a lot. Thanks Jas. Someone has to stand up for what's right.
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Reply #96 - May 22^nd, 2011 at 1:41am

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 8:42pm:

Good onya LastNail. Stick to your guns. Can see why Bobby supports your posts a lot.

Solar/Wind/Water Energy will always prevail and just get better.
Some prefer a glass of Water to combat dehydration, while others need a Red Bull and all of its 'extras' for god knows why ...a heart palpitation and then a headache later??

I love it when a world goes into 'adversity' like the USA with its Economy (like Europe had with its Military and Australia has with its Sport Wink

) ...all the great improvements that are NEEDED and not wanted are suddently brought to the front of the cue.

badweekend is your typical Luddite who votes liberal.

He doesn't want to change anything. He wants everything to stay the same whilst other countries make progress. If you drive a car he wants you to take it up the arse at the fool bowser. If fool prices go up then he expects you to get a higher paying job to make up for the difference !!

If you can't afford it then you must be a loser according to badweekend !! But under no circumstances should anyone have access to electric vehicle technology. Even if they are elderly pensioners and barely do no more than 20k's per day, then under no circumstance should these old folks have access to electric vehicle technology and they certainly shouldn't be supplementing their power usage with FREE energy from the sun because that is heresy according to badweekend.

Make them pay is badweekend's foolospohy in life. Hell, if badweekend has to pay a fortune to fill up his gas guzzling piece of crap then everyone else should pay as well !! Why should badweekend suffer alone !!

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Reply #97 - May 22^nd, 2011 at 10:27am

Well my Integral Energy 'neighbour' has just told me that the so-called "Safety Inspections" that have just kicked off upon all the Solar Panel installations are also to make sure no stolen and 'unusual' or 'Home-Made' are being used ...which would upset the Govt who has been providing expensive lesser quality Solar Panelling compared to Africa/Europe.

...his cigarette dropped out of his mouth when I told him that a new 90% Solar Panel had just been invented.

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Reply #98 - May 22^nd, 2011 at 11:15am

Jas,
The 90% efficent panels are a long way off being manufactured & sold.
The price may also be too high when compared to ordinary panels.
I think Nail was just trying to keep losers like Longweekend up to date.
I'm still waiting for Longweekend to thank Nail -
something that he can't bring himself to do.

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Reply #99 - May 22^nd, 2011 at 11:27am

The 'variations' will filter down through society like sunlight through cloud. Within 10 years, those 90% Solar Panels will be all other the planet like a hit song that kicks off another 10 year trend.
Backyard Bobs (are you one Bobby? Huh

) would be at their little soldering stations in their Men's Sheds around Australia pumping out their own versions.
Maybe the Televisually/Governmentally dedicated Australians might buy whatever over-priced crap they get sold. But everyone else will be "OnLine" to buy what is better from Home-Grown efforts. The only way to succeed in Australia is to stay below the Radar of the All-Seeing Eye of Television.

I bet ya I have these 90% Panels in 5 years. Wink

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121074 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight Reply #100 - May 22^nd, 2011 at 12:44pm Jas. Quote: I bet ya I have these 90% Panels in 5 years. I hope so for everyone's sake. The Sun provides us with unlimited energy - if only we could harness it properly.
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Reply #101 - May 22^nd, 2011 at 1:17pm

Bobby. wrote on May 22^nd, 2011 at 12:44pm:

Jas.
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I bet ya I have these 90% Panels in 5 years.

I hope so for everyone's sake.
The Sun provides us with unlimited energy - if only we could harness it properly.

And it's FREE as well which means you don't get billed for its use !! Something which badweekend and mavis davis has a hard time comprehending because they are so use to being ripped off all of their life on oil that was created from sunlight energy in the first place !!

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Reply #102 - May 22^nd, 2011 at 2:20pm

dont go all 'conspiracy' on me. a major problem for oil rigs is CORROSION just as it is for shipping. running turbines at at sea is expensive and running underwater power cables is as well. this new concept of pushing salt water onto land is an excellent one where corrosionis far less and more easily maintained. [/quote]

If I haven't seen and experienced conspiracy first hand, I would agree with you, but I can give you an example of it:
put in for a contract of loading ballast onto Railway trucks for
9 shilling a cubic yard, had to to deposit approximately 6 month wages, which I would have forfeited if I could not fullfill my contract; did not get contract, but the person who got the contract asked for 11 shilling a cubic yard.
As I knew one of the person who was on the board which allocated this contracts, I asked him why was the contract given to the person with a higher quote? His reply:"you have to kneow how to put in this contracts".
The contract was a government contract.
now I,am glad that I did not get the contract, because the ballast was form a uranium mine, where probably there was a lot of radiation.

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Reply #103 - May 22^nd, 2011 at 6:16pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on May 22^nd, 2011 at 10:27am:

Well my Integral Energy 'neighbour' has just told me that the so-called "Safety Inspections" that have just kicked off upon all the Solar Panel installations are also to make sure no stolen and 'unusual' or 'Home-Made' are being used ...which would upset the Govt who has been providing expensive lesser quality Solar Panelling compared to Africa/Europe.

...his cigarette dropped out of his mouth when I told him that a new 90% Solar Panel had just been invented.

and imagine how much he wil laugh when he finds out it doesnt exist!

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Reply #104 - May 22^nd, 2011 at 6:19pm

hawil wrote on May 22^nd, 2011 at 2:20pm:

dont go all 'conspiracy' on me. a major problem for oil rigs is CORROSION just as it is for shipping. running turbines at at sea is expensive and running underwater power cables is as well. this new concept of pushing salt water onto land is an excellent one where corrosionis far less and more easily maintained.

If I haven't seen and experienced conspiracy first hand, I would agree with you, but I can give you an example of it:
put in for a contract of loading ballast onto Railway trucks for
9 shilling a cubic yard, had to to deposit approximately 6 month wages, which I would have forfeited if I could not fullfill my contract; did not get contract, but the person who got the contract asked for 11 shilling a cubic yard.
As I knew one of the person who was on the board which allocated this contracts, I asked him why was the contract given to the person with a higher quote? His reply:"you have to kneow how to put in this contracts".
The contract was a government contract.
now I,am glad that I did not get the contract, because the ballast was form a uranium mine, where probably there was a lot of radiation. [/quote]

when you use the term 'shilling' we know this story is at least 45 years old and probably more like 60 years. how about something a tad more current?

and it remains true what i said. the existence of a conspiracy in one place doesnt imply it is the natural order of things. It is surprising to even need to explain that.

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